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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 26, 2016 2:44:25 GMT
I think the hate started ever since ninjas were first out since they were the only class who refused to get party buffs (e.g. don't warcry) and started to whine like a princess if they get buffed.
Later on, SH became so rampant that they made it look like it is a staple ninja skill, which effectively put nails to the coffin.
I don't really have bad blood against ninjas. I have partied with a lot of them and they are convenient to have sometimes. Like when I was farming Zazel with 3 random ninjas. All I needed to do is light buff them and heal revive when one of them dies.
It was a very relaxing farm compared to a busy paladin job where you buff self, buff others, devotion, tank, deal damage, heal revive, rebuff, use pots, switch gear, provoke, and anything else that will ensure you tap your screen at least 4 times every second.
I have hated some ninjas but not because of their class but of their attitude. Actually I have more hate for Bishops who don't heal. I really feel annoyed that I am using my onigiris when there is a bishop in the party.
So we need not generalize it to a class, it all boils down to player attitudes/personal character.
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Apr 26, 2016 11:39:35 GMT
Not only do the equipment/xtals favor the mage branch but the heal of hp/mp(paladin being the exception) causes a huge offset in the balance of classes. I agree bish's heal can be ridiculously high...x.X last time at baum warriors i've been healed 64k, which only is 10 times my MaxHP after all...
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Apr 26, 2016 12:16:16 GMT
Not only do the equipment/xtals favor the mage branch but the heal of hp/mp(paladin being the exception) causes a huge offset in the balance of classes. I agree bish's heal can be ridiculously high...x.X last time at baum warriors i've been healed 64k, which only is 10 times my MaxHP after all... and that is just 1/5 of mine hahaha
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Post by Shori>.< on Apr 26, 2016 12:43:21 GMT
Not only do the equipment/xtals favor the mage branch but the heal of hp/mp(paladin being the exception) causes a huge offset in the balance of classes. I agree bish's heal can be ridiculously high...x.X last time at baum warriors i've been healed 64k, which only is 10 times my MaxHP after all... Darn, and I was quite proud of my 4k heal at lvl 70 XD. How much heal is considered decent/good anyway? Gotta make a target.
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Apr 26, 2016 13:11:47 GMT
I agree bish's heal can be ridiculously high...x.X last time at baum warriors i've been healed 64k, which only is 10 times my MaxHP after all... Darn, and I was quite proud of my 4k heal at lvl 70 XD. How much heal is considered decent/good anyway? Gotta make a target. 300K (that way you will need only 1 heal to heal me to full HP )
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Apr 26, 2016 13:41:56 GMT
Darn, and I was quite proud of my 4k heal at lvl 70 XD. How much heal is considered decent/good anyway? Gotta make a target. 300K (that way you will need only 1 heal to heal me to full HP ) How high your hp now man, 250-270k?
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Apr 26, 2016 13:54:33 GMT
300K (that way you will need only 1 heal to heal me to full HP ) How high your hp now man, 250-270k? 278K with self-buffs (warcry 2 and divine aura)
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Apr 26, 2016 14:16:22 GMT
How high your hp now man, 250-270k? 278K with self-buffs (warcry 2 and divine aura) I agree bish's heal can be ridiculously high...x.X last time at baum warriors i've been healed 64k, which only is 10 times my MaxHP after all... Darn, and I was quite proud of my 4k heal at lvl 70 XD. How much heal is considered decent/good anyway? Gotta make a target. Welp lol theres your benchmark to keep up with Good bish needs to beat onigiri...which heals 10%hp~
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Post by Shori>.< on Apr 26, 2016 14:16:25 GMT
Darn, and I was quite proud of my 4k heal at lvl 70 XD. How much heal is considered decent/good anyway? Gotta make a target. 300K (that way you will need only 1 heal to heal me to full HP ) Owh, that's not far. I only need to add about 296k to my heal X.X
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Apr 26, 2016 14:20:27 GMT
278K with self-buffs (warcry 2 and divine aura) Darn, and I was quite proud of my 4k heal at lvl 70 XD. How much heal is considered decent/good anyway? Gotta make a target. Welp lol theres your benchmark to keep up with Good bish needs to beat onigiri...which heals 10%hp~ and that is without having pure HP gear... and without other party members and food buffs... pretty sure you might go past 400k if you really put your head into it... a lot of bishops just get tired of healing me and switch to spam revive... (which lowers my guardian but what can you say...)
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Post by Shori>.< on Apr 26, 2016 14:25:01 GMT
Welp lol theres your benchmark to keep up with Good bish needs to beat onigiri...which heals 10%hp~ and that is without having pure HP gear... and without other party members and food buffs... pretty sure you might go past 400k if you really put your head into it... a lot of bishops just get tired of healing me and switch to spam revive... (which lowers my guardian but what can you say...) Lol with that much hp will you even die? I'll make 30k my target then. Edit: just noticed that we're way, waaayyyy off topic. Ops?
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Yazmat
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Post by Yazmat on Apr 26, 2016 14:27:23 GMT
and that is without having pure HP gear... and without other party members and food buffs... pretty sure you might go past 400k if you really put your head into it... a lot of bishops just get tired of healing me and switch to spam revive... (which lowers my guardian but what can you say...) Lol with that much hp will you even die? I'll make 30k my target then. Edit: just noticed that we're way, waaayyyy off topic. Ops? oh yeah sorry back to topic guys...
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asteg
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yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Apr 26, 2016 21:38:31 GMT
Backoff topic o.o/ my hp is 64k
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Post by Crysta| on Apr 27, 2016 18:38:16 GMT
I'll get back on topic...The majority of ninja aren't DoC spammers, nor do they have interfike/dual blow. In any class/build a skill spammer will always do more DPS than an auto attacker.
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Nyx
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May the force be with you
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Post by Nyx on Apr 27, 2016 19:47:49 GMT
I'll get back on topic...The majority of ninja aren't DoC spammers, nor do they have interfike/dual blow. In any class/build a skill spammer will always do more DPS than an auto attacker. is auto issen sam with shippu jinrai an exception? I guess they do greater dps than issen spam
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