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Post by !Joker! on Apr 24, 2016 13:54:48 GMT
Why Ninja dominate Iruna interms of number and maybe one of the class use SH the most? •easy to play •easy to gear up in low level after they turn to ninja •cheap -hp gears are easy to get •maybe one of the highest survivability in early games if build is agi type •can solo most of the early boss, no need to call for help or bother player doing same quest/mq, for waiting someone stronger to give a hand •maybe one of the class easily can save SPINA for not buying revitas, •influence by the STRONG/HIGH LVL NINJA giving free boost to lower lvl/new player in game, coz most Ninja do the free boosting. •And the most hated of all the SH or SPEED HACK that like virus spread to all class and corrupt the game play/mind most of players..
CONS: Downfall of ninjas are the new bosses now and upcoming boss.. •after a months playing getting bored. •major/most used weapon are not good looking •most new weapon for ninja agi melee type has Auto that cancel there passive skill •very low survivability versus new bosses.. •skill animation are boring specialy melee type. Im a ninja and after 1yr&8months i cap my level no tickets just free/ reward from stamp books that i use to boost exp I see some ninja just a 1-3 months cap lvl.. Now i decided to make a Glad... to challenge my self coz i saw/watch videos that Glad use there all skill and to its full potential, not like ninja melee type only rotate to 3 skill and 2 equip switching... Hope i get to Glad world easy..
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Post by asteg on Apr 24, 2016 14:12:46 GMT
Just gonna say i used to hatevall ninjas... Then kms made one then i hated 99% of ninjas o.o I dont think its a ninja thing, its just ninja is the easiest class to play, everyone says to go ninja, and since ppl nowadays dont like to put effort into anything so they use sh... Theres alot of good ninjas out there, they dont whine about wc/bless, they have velitra, they have op dmg...ect.. But most cases , the ppl that go ninja dont know how to play, then they think they need 9 clones cuz they hear other ninjas go "HUEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE I CAN 9CLOJE SO SUCKE MY DI" then they hear "HUEHEHEHE I HAVE GANIE SO SUAOAJCOSJAIOAOJDOXO BETTER THEN U" Its not ninjas that suck, its just new players dont have anyone to look up to .-.
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Post by godofafro on Apr 24, 2016 18:04:53 GMT
now one of the issues is "ninjas always speed hack" yeah I agree there are ninjas that speed hack.. And hwiz.. And bish... And samu...and monks whew a lot of players that aren't ninjas do it. You must be kidding me. And seriously? Whining about a new skill when there are already things like stoneskin/massive skin, origin, blood lust, asura aura, Esperanza, fortis, imperial, shadow walk, sicarus, Hyde atk+arrow rain and resu spam? I'd have to say people have let themselves go crazy lol And I dont see anyone complaining on why one of the best skills in game is ninja's clone. It have virtually almost no weakness except stun. Blind is easily negated by potions. Even as the rest of the jobs had the above new skills, you hardly see the majority play them. Most still play ninjas. Why? Ask yourself. Remove off ninjas clone and no one plays ninjas. Seriously, no one here complains on ninjas not deserving of new damage dealing skill(s) to spice up their playtime. But a damage balancing should be adjusted, like the damage for that very new skill to be nerfed when not using a throwing, for example. Why Ninja dominate Iruna interms of number and maybe one of the class use SH the most? •easy to play •easy to gear up in low level after they turn to ninja •cheap -hp gears are easy to get •maybe one of the highest survivability in early games if build is agi type •can solo most of the early boss, no need to call for help or bother player doing same quest/mq, for waiting someone stronger to give a hand •maybe one of the class easily can save SPINA for not buying revitas, •And the most hated of all the SH or SPEED HACK that like virus spread to all class and corrupt the game play/mind most of players.. As for most sh being ninja, I refer you back to the 'there are a ton of ninja's in Iruna' thing. I'd love to see an average sh:reg for each class and see how they stack up. While it's complete guesswork since the numbers don't exist (as far as I know), I wouldn't be surprised to see at least a semi-balanced ratio among all the common sh classes. I just think the inflated ninja numbers make it look so bad. Both of them are right. It's because of the job population in iruna- roughly 50%-60% falls into ninja classes; that's why you tend to see more ninjas speedhackers compared to the other classes. Most ninjas I know sh. I still have to meet a Lvl260+ ninja without SH tbh. Almost all of them have SH. (They'll tell you it's Interfike but they're obviously too poor to afford it). You see why they're so appalling? My friend, although what you said is very true, it offended the 5% of ninja players who did not use speed hack, and played the game legitly. And they are going to bombard your post, sooner or later, exclaiming in utter anger that you should not berate ninjas, as they themselves did not use speed hack at all, ?
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Post by blue21 on Apr 24, 2016 18:23:01 GMT
Most ninjas I know sh. I still have to meet a Lvl260+ ninja without SH tbh. Almost all of them have SH. (They'll tell you it's Interfike but they're obviously too poor to afford it). You see why they're so appalling? I hate partying with them too because they always complain about Warcry. They suck without SH and tbh they'll all quit when you strip them of SH. Not all ninjas are like that q.q...personally it annoys me seeing people on iron armor at minauala begging for mio e.e and I understand why you say all uses sh because a vast majority does,but ik some ninjas who are just as appalled by sh (me being one of em)...people need to realize being a ninja takes a hell of a lot of training and money to be actually good and stop rushing into it or hacking their way through life
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Post by midnight on Apr 24, 2016 18:39:46 GMT
im a 267 nin goin for 268 and i never use speedhack. i despise it and i never use a rooted phone. we are hated that's why id rather play solo grind with pet or solo mq rather than pt with other classes after all who cares. its funny how we are hated but most of the time we are the "go to guy" when other classes needed help to save you from your mq's. Raven™
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Namitsuki
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Post by Namitsuki on Apr 24, 2016 19:17:15 GMT
Well, that's a complicated issue.
I'll open up by saying I don't hate ninjas. Some of my friends are ninja (good ninjas, regular ninjas and some bad ninjas too). I even made a ninja at one time and I can say that it isn't for me. I do dislike playing as a ninja and if anyone asks my opinion on it I'll say I find it boring and unappealing to play a ninja.
Also if I can have a choice of tanker I'll rather have a paladin coz I know they can keep aggro much better than a ninja even if their gears aren't on the higher end. If I must have a ninja tank ill hope for one with high lv and high end gear.
The problem is that ninjas, like probably most players from all classes, dont have the expensive high end gears, but they put themselves in a position where high end gears are expected of them.
Say one new player gets boosted or meet a ninja somewhere in their early days. The new player is impressed by the power of this high lv stranger that can kill mobs or bosses super fast, maybe even in 1 hit.
Then the new player asks the ninja about their class and they learn it's a good class to solo, they wont have to rely on help anymore and they are sold. That's the class they will be going for.
Since ninjas are the biggest population in iruna that scenario gets repeated over and over, including people that give up on their original plans because they don't wanna depend on help anymore.
From those new players, some will go on to do their research and try their best, some will just wing it as they go and some others will try the absolute least and leech other players for ideas, items, etc...
Those 3 types of players will be on all classes, but will be more visible on classes with high population.
What/who we all hate are those players that try the least or don't try at all and unfortunately the majority of them are ninjas. If you take a look at the hate thread you will see that the second most hated people are hw that just want to serve as mp rechargers (hw being the second largest class population in iruna.
Now about the new skills the 1st reaction of some people was to be upset and rage about it. And i can understand how as a fair player that reaction might upset you. But think about it: if what you see the most are entitled lazy people and cheaters in that class and suddenly they all gain a shinning new skill that can make them even more entitled and smug you would also be a bit upset.
And, please don't take it the wrong way, I'm sure the are many smug and entitled players in every class, after all every class has its advantages and therefore things to brag about. We all just need to remember that every class also has its disadvantages.
One of the major problems with ninjas, sh aside, is the failure at pointing out those disadvantages.
Yes, ninjas have great survivability, but it's nerfed by not being able to use clones when stunned and blind, reducing clone creation when paralyzed and having some attacks and field effects simply ignore clones.
The damage dealt by ninjas is great, specially early on , but the progression of this damage is nerfed by the lack of increased damage skills for such a long period while other classes gain more skills and/or skill levels that eventually allow them to surpass ninja's damage.
I have no hate for this new ninja skill. Ninjas were long overdue for a new skill and a damage spike and it actually gives me hope that asobimo might release good new assassin skills since everyone has gotten skills with great damage.
I also hope those new ninja skills will bring a change to the class style so the good players that were bored with their ninjas might give the class another chance.
In the end I think the hate for ninjas come from the attitude most of us encounter where ninjas think they are the be all end all of survival and damage when in reality their are a good rounded class with nice damage and survival but master of none of those skills.
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Post by bravebor on Apr 24, 2016 21:01:19 GMT
Most ninjas I know sh. I still have to meet a Lvl260+ ninja without SH tbh. Almost all of them have SH. (They'll tell you it's Interfike but they're obviously too poor to afford it). You see why they're so appalling? I hate partying with them too because they always complain about Warcry. They suck without SH and tbh they'll all quit when you strip them of SH. Not all ninjas are like that q.q...personally it annoys me seeing people on iron armor at minauala begging for mio e.e and I understand why you say all uses sh because a vast majority does,but ik some ninjas who are just as appalled by sh (me being one of em)...people need to realize being a ninja takes a hell of a lot of training and money to be actually good and stop rushing into it or hacking their way through life Please would you kindly pick up a dictionary and look up the words all & most, you will see that 1 means 100% the other can mean, maybe not even something like 90% but certianly something over 50%
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Post by Skye on Apr 24, 2016 22:52:29 GMT
Btw I should also mention that I've yet to meet a person that hates magic nins. Those always seem to be popular. Probably because the gear is the same price as many other magic based classes.
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Post by godofafro on Apr 25, 2016 0:20:49 GMT
Btw I should also mention that I've yet to meet a person that hates magic nins. Those always seem to be popular. The main reason is because its our mentality that they play legitly. Person A: Hey look, here's a lv300 claw ninja. Person B: Just ignore him, he's probably a SH. Meh. Person A: Wow, look, there's a lv300 magic ninja here too. Person B: -thumbs up- Awesome, what a dedicated player, we need more like him.
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Post by Kanato on Apr 25, 2016 0:34:05 GMT
Btw I should also mention that I've yet to meet a person that hates magic nins. Those always seem to be popular. The main reason is because its our mentality that they play legitly. Person A: Hey look, here's a lv300 claw ninja. Person B: Just ignore him, he's probably a SH. Meh. Person A: Wow, look, there's a lv300 magic ninja here too. Person B: -thumbs up- Awesome, what a dedicated player, we need more like him. This is so true. People dont believe that ninjas will actually grind their way to cap level withouy sh e.e everybody just thinks all ninjas are @ssholes that use sh and hacks when thats not even true
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Post by bravebor on Apr 25, 2016 1:13:23 GMT
The main reason is because its our mentality that they play legitly. Person A: Hey look, here's a lv300 claw ninja. Person B: Just ignore him, he's probably a SH. Meh. Person A: Wow, look, there's a lv300 magic ninja here too. Person B: -thumbs up- Awesome, what a dedicated player, we need more like him. This is so true. People dont believe that ninjas will actually grind their way to cap level withouy sh e.e everybody just thinks all ninjas are @ssholes that use sh and hacks when thats not even true I'm just gunna extend this a tad further and use my ppl use a reference...when I travle abroad, I'll prolly tell ppl in some places (have to tell people) that I'm from N.Z. instead of saying from Auzzie just coz there have been so many that when abroad have made total dicks of themselves x.x Many ppl know full well that Auzzies are pretty chill pps and some of the hardest workers and fighters you will ever meet...but when abroad, idk, some think maybe the laws of other lands dont apply to them or that certain tourist places exist purely for their entertainment. Because of this now, in parts of Indonesia for instance such as Bali, Auzzies are not looked upon favourably due to the behavior of sadly a good number that have come before. In other places such as in the Netherlands, they will refuse to serve a person or to admit them if they know that person is Auzzie because of reasons I stated. It doesnt matter that ppl in this thread may well be the honorable and dedicated sort amongst ninjas, but simply because there are so many who are not, you all get tarred equally with the same brush which is sadly, just the way things go.
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Post by Kanato on Apr 25, 2016 1:55:47 GMT
This is so true. People dont believe that ninjas will actually grind their way to cap level withouy sh e.e everybody just thinks all ninjas are @ssholes that use sh and hacks when thats not even true I'm just gunna extend this a tad further and use my ppl use a reference...when I travle abroad, I'll prolly tell ppl in some places (have to tell people) that I'm from N.Z. instead of saying from Auzzie just coz there have been so many that when abroad have made total dicks of themselves x.x Many ppl know full well that Auzzies are pretty chill pps and some of the hardest workers and fighters you will ever meet...but when abroad, idk, some think maybe the laws of other lands dont apply to them or that certain tourist places exist purely for their entertainment. Because of this now, in parts of Indonesia for instance such as Bali, Auzzies are not looked upon favourably due to the behavior of sadly a good number that have come before. In other places such as in the Netherlands, they will refuse to serve a person or to admit them if they know that person is Auzzie because of reasons I stated. It doesnt matter that ppl in this thread may well be the honorable and dedicated sort amongst ninjas, but simply because there are so many who are not, you all get tarred equally with the same brush which is sadly, just the way things go. so im supposed to tell others that im a samu when they ask my class? :V im proud of my class and i will never be ashamed of being a ninja
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Apr 25, 2016 2:25:14 GMT
I'm just gunna extend this a tad further and use my ppl use a reference...when I travle abroad, I'll prolly tell ppl in some places (have to tell people) that I'm from N.Z. instead of saying from Auzzie just coz there have been so many that when abroad have made total dicks of themselves x.x Many ppl know full well that Auzzies are pretty chill pps and some of the hardest workers and fighters you will ever meet...but when abroad, idk, some think maybe the laws of other lands dont apply to them or that certain tourist places exist purely for their entertainment. Because of this now, in parts of Indonesia for instance such as Bali, Auzzies are not looked upon favourably due to the behavior of sadly a good number that have come before. In other places such as in the Netherlands, they will refuse to serve a person or to admit them if they know that person is Auzzie because of reasons I stated. It doesnt matter that ppl in this thread may well be the honorable and dedicated sort amongst ninjas, but simply because there are so many who are not, you all get tarred equally with the same brush which is sadly, just the way things go. so im supposed to tell others that im a samu when they ask my class? :V im proud of my class and i will never be ashamed of being a ninja And I'm proud to be an Australian, I just accept tho that there will be some places I may not be looked upon favorably for being so and in instances such as with the Netherlands, its a kinda deal the circumstance I'm thinking of, where every1 pays x amount and that is all you pay for the meal and all the beverages you consume. Because some Australians in this instance being the fruit loops they are and go *-* at paying small amount for all you can drink...they drink all they can, which invariably leaves them doing stupid things. Because of this behavior from some of our number, the rest of us are refused admitance, so if I wish to go to 1 of these things with some of my friends in the Netherlands, I will need to talk to mum or a friend with a strong kiwi accent which I easily aquire and hope whoever is serving knows the difference between tho so I wont habe to bs and say I'm from N.Z. I am just simply saying, continue being a proud nin and all that, but just accept your gunna get sht on is all because of the actions of others in that class...
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Apr 25, 2016 2:31:15 GMT
1 more referance to try to clarify better. 1 of the teams in our AFL, Collingwood, is said to be 1 of the most supported...and most hated teams in the world. Tbh, for most ppl its not the team they hate, its simply the supporters. Its a team you either love to support or that you love to hate. The only differance in this comparison tho is these nutjobs accept and to an extent enjoy the reputation. Its a part of the brand by now and as the saying goes for those in the military, which applies equally to examples such as this, if you cant take a joke, you should'nt have joined(and yes, I am thoroughly aware that there is no joke to this)
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Post by skeewi on Apr 25, 2016 3:37:24 GMT
Most ninjas I know sh. I still have to meet a Lvl260+ ninja without SH tbh. Almost all of them have SH. (They'll tell you it's Interfike but they're obviously too poor to afford it). You see why they're so appalling? I hate partying with them too because they always complain about Warcry. They suck without SH and tbh they'll all quit when you strip them of SH. I have a lot of ninja friends, but this line is what bothers me the most. In certain parties they're actually a nuisance, which is why I don't like partying with one. My mins can't Life Song, my BK can't warcry, servants can't vitalize or use shield of light, and some ninjas can't even handle bless either because they got a Muscle Al. My big gripe with ninjas is that they hold a party down and have absolutely nothing to offer to a ot either. Of course this isn't the case with non 1hp ninjas, but it's certainly what bothers me about 1hp ninjas.
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