bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jan 11, 2016 8:27:55 GMT
hmm...might just keep this to mails this time... Edit: as stated Eaysley
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 11, 2016 8:42:34 GMT
hmm...might just keep this to mails this time... If you're just gonna be annoying, do others a favor and keep it to yourself. I noticed you're like this in other threads too. Not cool. I even saw one your group chats ingame too titled 'Retards use SH' What's up with that? Not trying to be mean to you but that is hella annoying. That's more retarded than SH itself. Trolling, actually. That's more frowned upon than any hacks. You can't always pull a 'it's the internet i can say whatever sht I want'. Js.
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jan 11, 2016 8:49:31 GMT
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 11, 2016 8:58:10 GMT
Oh I sighed too when I saw it. Don't take it personally. I just pointing it out to you because obviously noone hasn't told you yet. You are so apalled by 'SH' and overpricers and whatnot but have your ever thought trolling is as equally annoying? If you dislike me or this topic so much, then why are you so hellbent on making your point. Seriously, it's like you're always looking for argument rather than a discussion.
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kms
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Post by kms on Jan 11, 2016 9:10:10 GMT
all of us play this game to pass time. we generate a lot of spina by doing so. we also farm random bosses aiming for an item and end up getting the wrong one. need an xtal, get a gear - and vice versa. we end up in rokoko much against our own free will. i did not have more than 8m spina till i was about level 180+. my hiwiz still used iron armor up with no add on xtals. now i own a well geared hiwiz with more than 300m to spare. today i see level 1 players offering 10m spina to power level at yarde or baums. net result: we all gain in spina due to free time play. we also have the means of accumulating more spina through rare drops. therefore the prices of the gears are also bound to go up. unless we are complaining that we are not able to generate that kind of spina to buy gears, the point is invalid to complain about raising prices. on a lazy day i can generate about 3m to 5m worth trash from mobs. if i have been playing for more than 2 years - do the math. NOTE: though NPC are the source of spina in the game - i think the blacksmith's compensate by sucking the spina out of you. snowear muff refine with ori costs about 28k spina per try. i lost more than 8m trying to refine mine .
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jan 11, 2016 9:30:07 GMT
NOTE: though NPC are the source of spina in the game - i think the blacksmith's compensate by sucking the spina out of you. snowear muff refine with ori costs about 28k spina per try. i lost more than 8m trying to refine mine . That's really terrible luck. I only spend that much when I'm refining 2slot weapons. I remember buying an odium 2slot for 9m and spending another 9m trying to +9 it. I think I spent more on refining and ores than the equipment itself. Crazy. Anyway, last week I was selling MOH for 7m ea at around 15 to 30 pcs per day and they all went out like hot cakes. Nowadays noone seems to buy even for 5m. Good thing I stopped farming it days ago. I still have a few pcs to sell just to check if the market has changed again. I think the MOH production was higher than MOD and MOW so it could not convert into spina via ultimi to end users.
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jan 11, 2016 15:40:25 GMT
I I even saw one your group chats ingame too titled 'Retards use SH' What's up with that? Not trying to be mean to you but that is hella annoying. That's more retarded than SH itself. Trolling, actually. That's more frowned upon than any hacks. You can't always pull a 'it's the internet i can say whatever sht I want'. Js. pretty sure all those who were in gc of that very name just now would disagree...
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Post by gyn on Jan 11, 2016 17:34:24 GMT
Can we talk about prices? Particularly the price hikes? Because they are INSANE. I just sold my green Zazel, someone offered 70 million spina. The easy kitty boss. Green used to be 40m, red is 35 (I bought mine way back for this price) and blue is 25m. It's insane how much the prices went up. Atleta slot was steady at 500 to 650m before. Now a seller has a high bid of 1.1b (seriously I might drop the idea of buying one, and just took a long hiatus again). I regret not buying one when I had 500m. Lol. Tbh my current goal is to full gear my gladiator and cap it. Then idk what to do next. I feel sorry for the new users because getting basic crystals (like Zazel, Moldus, Ushlith, Ganei etc) will be a chore. What do you think is the cause for these outrageous hike in prices? Imo many players reach high level at a very fast rate (you can get to lvl220 just by MQ alone) and they get access to farming for easy money. More money from more players = more competition for prices. What are your thoughts? Edit: when I say 'before', I mean 4 months ago. JUST 4 months ago. I started loggingon again in December. Sorry then, perhaps the confusion stemmed from all the exclaiming about the rise in prices, and the effect on new players. I.e.- this is wrong? But jk, bc you do it too.
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Post by maximo24 on Jan 13, 2016 18:45:03 GMT
Well theres another theory why prices go up are you guys ever see ppl selling spina well alot of my friends buy spina you can get 10m to 15m for each usa dlr so most ppl stop farming you get a sht load of spina for 50 dls you can ger 500m+ most of my friends buy 100dls + if you add to that seller of spina 10 100 ppl so those ppl buy the stuff because they canpay more money for it so ppl start rising prices to get more money and ppl wont complain because they can pay overpreced gears
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Post by gyn on Jan 13, 2016 20:06:01 GMT
Well theres another theory why prices go up are you guys ever see ppl selling spina well alot of my friends buy spina you can get 10m to 15m for each usa dlr so most ppl stop farming you get a sht load of spina for 50 dls you can ger 500m+ most of my friends buy 100dls + if you add to that seller of spina 10 100 ppl so those ppl buy the stuff because they canpay more money for it so ppl start rising prices to get more money and ppl wont complain because they can pay overpreced gears 150m going for 15$ gpc lately
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Post by Crysta| on Jan 14, 2016 0:14:06 GMT
^ this is what makes inflation raise faster than normal.
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Post by kwest on Jan 14, 2016 0:21:42 GMT
I got 500m off of my allowance. Iruna economy is broken.
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Post by gyn on Jan 14, 2016 1:03:16 GMT
^ this is what makes inflation raise faster than normal. And once its risen its risen. refer to the topic of this whole convo. Make the money while its broken :3 profit when its fixed.
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Post by raven on Jan 14, 2016 1:48:28 GMT
When people see some item sell for a specific price, it gets fixed in their head. If the price was OP then they think they can get just as much spina again. Then the OP item becomes the normal selling price. If only there were a group of people who would farm and sell the items at the proper rates as it was,the players could get used to that price again . Some people just buy stuff at the normal price and sell it for high prices in the market. But well....my comment here is meaningless. People are hellbent on becoming rich and getting gears rather than enjoying the small aspects of the game.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jan 14, 2016 2:28:56 GMT
When people see some item sell for a specific price, it gets fixed in their head. If the price was OP then they think they can get just as much spina again. Then the OP item becomes the normal selling price. If only there were a group of people who would farm and sell the items at the proper rates as it was,the players could get used to that price again . Some people just buy stuff at the normal price and sell it for high prices in the market. But well....my comment here is meaningless. People are hellbent on becoming rich and getting gears rather than enjoying the small aspects of the game. Imo, there is no such thing as 'proper rate'. prices always depends on how much people are willing to buy. and with inflation, people have alot of spina to spend. A couple of weeks ago somebody asked me to farm him an Almas xtal. I had five star fortune so I grinded the xtal within the day. Sold it to him for 120m (thinking that Almas is just 80m to 100m added 20m for my service). I realized this was wrong afterwards when I offered another xtal and there were 3 people willing to pay more upto around 180m. Analyzing the situation, I realized that there are alot of rich toons wanting ultimi up but are incapable of grinding Almas solo like Paladins do which is why there is a good amount of demand. Players poor in spina remain poor in spina because they do not understand the economy and/or do not know how to adapt to it. Getting rich is a necessity with the inflation (it is something you need to do to get good gears, and if you allow a few more time, getting rich would be something you need to do in order to get just the NORMAL gears.) If you don't keep up, you might end up with just NS gears in the future or be stuck with old gears and xtals. BTW, people who just buy and sell stuff at rokoko have potential to be good businessmen/entrepreneurs in real life. Reading markets, negotiating with people, knowing what they buy (or do not buy), how much they are willing to spend, what turns people off, how to properly attend to people, what strategies work, etc. They might not realize it but they are getting some sales/marketing experience while playing.
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