bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jan 10, 2016 1:24:10 GMT
ganai is actually the big 1 I really dont understand as, tho I'm not 1 to say as I dont generally do boss farming...might soon tho if I find the right ppl out of those I know to pt with...but pretty sure theres still just as many farming ganai as there eber was...like last time i was there there werent quite so many, but other times it has still been pretty well packed as...
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Post by quitted on Jan 10, 2016 1:40:27 GMT
ikr, inflation that happen since few months makes me busy to make wishlist earlier about what to buy and i try buy item in my wishlist asap to avoid inflation risk. i still i remember i bought maelriel for 80m, but last time i heard people say nowadays at least 100m each x.x
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 10, 2016 2:54:16 GMT
ikr, inflation that happen since few months makes me busy to make wishlist earlier about what to buy and i try buy item in my wishlist asap to avoid inflation risk. i still i remember i bought maelriel for 80m, but last time i heard people say nowadays at least 100m each x.x That's red man. The blue and green goes for 100 to 120. Insane.
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 10, 2016 2:57:16 GMT
SH has been around for a long time. If anything, SH should make prices cheaper (easier means to get items) RMT is the biggest incentive to use SH, and RMT causes inflation to rise faster than it should. Can someone review the TOS for RMT. I'm not that against RMT if it's done discreetly. But if you come to Rokoko here's what you'll see, BLATANTLY: - SELLING SPINA - BUYING PREPAID CREDITS - JUAL SPINA (WHATEVER THAT IS) - SELLING GPC PTME When I joined there was already RMT but not done this blatantly. It's annoying. If you gotta do something illegal, do it under the table.
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reb13
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Post by reb13 on Jan 10, 2016 3:16:50 GMT
RMT is the biggest incentive to use SH, and RMT causes inflation to rise faster than it should. Can someone review the TOS for RMT. I'm not that against RMT if it's done discreetly. But if you come to Rokoko here's what you'll see, BLATANTLY: - SELLING SPINA - BUYING PREPAID CREDITS - JUAL SPINA (WHATEVER THAT IS) - SELLING GPC PTME When I joined there was already RMT but not done this blatantly. It's annoying. If you gotta do something illegal, do it under the table. im extremely annoyed by rmt.firstly its already against the rules and regulations. Its just plain stupid seriously. Wats worse is that these sellers say its cause im 'stil young and can't make $'. Its basically another way of saying u have no control over ur $. Just use ur rm for better use like FOOOOOODDDD (sry this judt popped in my head) or idk ur family? U just decided to waste thousands of dollars on a game that will not be here forever...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 4:45:36 GMT
Can we talk about prices? Particularly the price hikes? Because they are INSANE. I just sold my green Zazel, someone offered 70 million spina. The easy kitty boss. Green used to be 40m, red is 35 (I bought mine way back for this price) and blue is 25m. It's insane how much the prices went up. Atleta slot was steady at 500 to 650m before. Now a seller has a high bid of 1.1b (seriously I might drop the idea of buying one, and just took a long hiatus again). I regret not buying one when I had 500m. Lol. Tbh my current goal is to full gear my gladiator and cap it. Then idk what to do next. I feel sorry for the new users because getting basic crystals (like Zazel, Moldus, Ushlith, Ganei etc) will be a chore. What do you think is the cause for these outrageous hike in prices? Imo many players reach high level at a very fast rate (you can get to lvl220 just by MQ alone) and they get access to farming for easy money. More money from more players = more competition for prices. What are your thoughts? Edit: when I say 'before', I mean 4 months ago. JUST 4 months ago. I started loggingon again in December. The inflation is mostly entirely due to alchemyprod, iI forget which level you make gold nugget but people produce these and then NPC, a stack being about 10m and coming from rocks, now I know "oh it takes time and it's hard to make" but when you add a alchemy charm and sadly a speed hack you can make those stacks real fast and since that spina is used for rmt it's basically spread pretty evenly through the games economy. And I don't feel too bad for new players because once they unlock some guild raids they can make a good amount of money selling beads/abis that drop from them Exactly, the rate of spina we get from NPC is higher and imbalance against the spent rate on them that results to pocket of the whole game to increase what it has. Imagine getting a 9.9M? From NPC vs 495K for buying a stack of port or any npc items that lasts long.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2016 6:37:45 GMT
RMT is the biggest incentive to use SH, and RMT causes inflation to rise faster than it should. Can someone review the TOS for RMT. I'm not that against RMT if it's done discreetly. But if you come to Rokoko here's what you'll see, BLATANTLY: - SELLING SPINA - BUYING PREPAID CREDITS - JUAL SPINA (WHATEVER THAT IS) - SELLING GPC PTME When I joined there was already RMT but not done this blatantly. It's annoying. If you gotta do something illegal, do it under the table. JUAL SPINA=SELL SPINA Its a malaysian and indonesian language
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Post by nocturne on Jan 11, 2016 4:35:32 GMT
and I'm here waiting for certain items' prices to go downhill poor newbies though
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Post by gyn on Jan 11, 2016 5:04:01 GMT
you are asking why the prices grow up and you are selling for higher price that the item value used to be ? it's like saying : "why i'm getting fat ?" and eating a hamburger in the same time ... This analogy doesn't make sense. Also doesn't add to the topic's discussion whatsoever. I think she meant, if ur also overpricing the items, then you are contributing to the inflation you woe so heartily x.x "why am i gaining so much weight?" +1 double quarter pound burger, hold the facepalm.
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bravebor
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Post by bravebor on Jan 11, 2016 5:33:44 GMT
I think I understand now correct me if i'm wrong you were selling zazel for 40m and someone offered 70m and you said yes (would be stupid if not) I thought you were selling your zazel for 70m even if you know that it worth 40m that why i didn't understood ^^" yep I sold one for 55 the other day. Now people are buying them for 70 o.o from a few comments after caporals comment there. and umm also...he's a dude lol This analogy doesn't make sense. Also doesn't add to the topic's discussion whatsoever. I think she meant, if ur also overpricing the items, then you are contributing to the inflation you woe so heartily x.x "why am i gaining so much weight?" +1 double quarter pound burger, hold the facepalm.
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 11, 2016 7:18:06 GMT
This analogy doesn't make sense. Also doesn't add to the topic's discussion whatsoever. I think she meant, if ur also overpricing the items, then you are contributing to the inflation you woe so heartily x.x "why am i gaining so much weight?" +1 double quarter pound burger, hold the facepalm. Well it's stupid and *very* annoying. And if anything, it just sounds like it's flaming me rather than adding points for a valid discussion. I'd rather not feed a troll. If it's implied that sellers are the main reason prices are going up then it's wrong. Prices wont be that high if buyers aren't willing pay as much. If you're stupid enough to sell an item that goes for 70 to something cheap like 40 just because you think it's righteous, then go for it.
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 11, 2016 7:20:53 GMT
and I'm here waiting for certain items' prices to go downhill poor newbies though Exactly what I was saying. I feel for those who are just starting out because it's not as easy to buy stuff now as it was before. Prices are going up at a fast rate. And based from the input of others, it's not gonna stabilize any time soon.
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Post by gyn on Jan 11, 2016 7:23:58 GMT
I think she meant, if ur also overpricing the items, then you are contributing to the inflation you woe so heartily x.x "why am i gaining so much weight?" +1 double quarter pound burger, hold the facepalm. Well it's stupid and *very* annoying. And if anything, it just sounds like it's flaming me rather than adding points for a valid discussion. I'd rather not feed a troll. If it's implied that sellers are the main reason prices are going up then it's wrong. Prices wont be that high if buyers aren't willing pay as much. If you're stupid enough to sell an item that goes for 70 to something cheap like 40 just because you think it's righteous, then go for it. Your complaint was inflation right...? A little lost here, so you can overprice but if someone else does it its wrong? But selling for a fair price is stupid...but we shouldnt overprice? Zzzz good talk, ill let ya think on this a bit ^
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 11, 2016 7:25:41 GMT
Well it's stupid and *very* annoying. And if anything, it just sounds like it's flaming me rather than adding points for a valid discussion. I'd rather not feed a troll. If it's implied that sellers are the main reason prices are going up then it's wrong. Prices wont be that high if buyers aren't willing pay as much. If you're stupid enough to sell an item that goes for 70 to something cheap like 40 just because you think it's righteous, then go for it. Your complaint was inflation right...? A little lost here, so you can overprice but if someone else does it its wrong? But selling for a fair price is stupid...but we shouldnt overprice? Zzzz good talk, ill let ya think on this a bit ^ Can you quote me when I told that overpricing is wrong? Afaik I never said that. Yes I agree, you are lost. The discussion here is about the rising prices.
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 11, 2016 7:30:54 GMT
Well it's stupid and *very* annoying. And if anything, it just sounds like it's flaming me rather than adding points for a valid discussion. I'd rather not feed a troll. If it's implied that sellers are the main reason prices are going up then it's wrong. Prices wont be that high if buyers aren't willing pay as much. If you're stupid enough to sell an item that goes for 70 to something cheap like 40 just because you think it's righteous, then go for it. Your complaint was inflation right...? A little lost here, so you can overprice but if someone else does it its wrong? But selling for a fair price is stupid...but we shouldnt overprice? Zzzz good talk, ill let ya think on this a bit ^ While you're at it, quote me too when I 'complained' about inflation. I simply wanted a discussion about it. Because complaining would just be counterproductive, it's useless.
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