Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 9, 2016 16:21:45 GMT
Can we talk about prices? Particularly the price hikes? Because they are INSANE. I just sold my green Zazel, someone offered 70 million spina. The easy kitty boss.
Green used to be 40m, red is 35 (I bought mine way back for this price) and blue is 25m. It's insane how much the prices went up.
Atleta slot was steady at 500 to 650m before. Now a seller has a high bid of 1.1b (seriously I might drop the idea of buying one, and just took a long hiatus again). I regret not buying one when I had 500m. Lol. Tbh my current goal is to full gear my gladiator and cap it. Then idk what to do next.
I feel sorry for the new users because getting basic crystals (like Zazel, Moldus, Ushlith, Ganei etc) will be a chore.
What do you think is the cause for these outrageous hike in prices?
Imo many players reach high level at a very fast rate (you can get to lvl220 just by MQ alone) and they get access to farming for easy money. More money from more players = more competition for prices. What are your thoughts?
Edit: when I say 'before', I mean 4 months ago. JUST 4 months ago. I started loggingon again in December.
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asteg
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yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Jan 9, 2016 16:53:12 GMT
Yeah... Things arnt quite what they used to be.. My first deal in iruna ever was trading 10 mithril for a s.bangle, my second deal was 40k for a fire bead... Nowadays its 250k for s.bangle and 10k for f.bead x.x
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caporal
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WHAT DOESN'T KILL ME, GIVES ME EXP
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Post by caporal on Jan 9, 2016 16:56:53 GMT
you are asking why the prices grow up and you are selling for higher price that the item value used to be ?
it's like saying : "why i'm getting fat ?" and eating a hamburger in the same time ...
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 9, 2016 16:59:09 GMT
you are asking why the prices grow up and you are selling for higher price that the item value used to be ? it's like saying : "why i'm getting fat ?" and eating a hamburger in the same time ... This analogy doesn't make sense. Also doesn't add to the topic's discussion whatsoever. |
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Post by UIRepth on Jan 9, 2016 17:09:58 GMT
Short supply + high demand = high price. Even if the stuff ez to farm but there no one farm it the price gonna keep rising due to short of supplies.
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 9, 2016 17:16:23 GMT
Short supply + high demand = high price. Even if the stuff ez to farm but there no one farm it the price gonna keep rising due to short of supplies. That's a given. Still it confuses me as to where all the spina circulating comes from. There's always plenty of farmers to keep supplying players. Here's what I think is happening: A higher level farms a boss that drops a 100m item. This player needed an item worth 10m, say a Ganei (Ganei was steady at 10). This player then offers 20m instead of 10m because why not he just got 100m easily. And with 20 he can buy it faster. |
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Post by Crysta| on Jan 9, 2016 17:34:48 GMT
All the spina in circulation comes from NPC. More players grinding mobs that yield decent spina when selling all drops to NPC (neknott for example) increases the total spina in the community's pocket.
When you trade another player 20M for ganei it doesn't add to the spina in circulation, it only changes who is in possession of that 20M.
Any time a player sells loot to the NPC think of it as they are printing more money.
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caporal
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WHAT DOESN'T KILL ME, GIVES ME EXP
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Post by caporal on Jan 9, 2016 17:38:23 GMT
I think I understand now
correct me if i'm wrong
you were selling zazel for 40m and someone offered 70m and you said yes (would be stupid if not)
I thought you were selling your zazel for 70m even if you know that it worth 40m
that why i didn't understood ^^"
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 9, 2016 17:43:31 GMT
All the spina in circulation comes from NPC. More players grinding mobs that yield decent spina when selling all drops to NPC (neknott for example) increases the total spina in the community's pocket. When you trade another player 20M for ganei it doesn't add to the spina in circulation, it only changes who is in possession of that 20M. Any time a player sells loot to the NPC think of it as they are printing more money. this makes perfect sense. I remember making 5m from just zazel loot |
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Jan 9, 2016 17:44:15 GMT
I think I understand now correct me if i'm wrong you were selling zazel for 40m and someone offered 70m and you said yes (would be stupid if not) I thought you were selling your zazel for 70m even if you know that it worth 40m that why i didn't understood ^^" yep I sold one for 55 the other day. Now people are buying them for 70 o.o |
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Post by Crysta| on Jan 9, 2016 18:06:59 GMT
All the spina in circulation comes from NPC. More players grinding mobs that yield decent spina when selling all drops to NPC (neknott for example) increases the total spina in the community's pocket. When you trade another player 20M for ganei it doesn't add to the spina in circulation, it only changes who is in possession of that 20M. Any time a player sells loot to the NPC think of it as they are printing more money. this makes perfect sense. I remember making 5m from just zazel loot yep, i made 10M just leveling my bishop over the weekend o.o |
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glaubr
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hw 280 n servant 200
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Post by glaubr on Jan 9, 2016 18:13:44 GMT
Some months ago ganei was 13m and now i c 20m n a crazy nob was trying 30m.. now any player can do mq to 220 and kill him in few seconds x.X but why farm hours a boring boss to drop a xtal when u can easilly farm bosses like leviam to get 20m with a ns armor?
Sorry for new players searching for good equips D:
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jan 9, 2016 18:47:25 GMT
Some months ago ganei was 13m and now i c 20m n a crazy nob was trying 30m.. now any player can do mq to 220 and kill him in few seconds x.X but why farm hours a boring boss to drop a xtal when u can easilly farm bosses like leviam to get 20m with a ns armor? Sorry for new players searching for good equips D: ninja logic?... |
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bravebor
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to slack to give a damn, yet to bored to not say anything...
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Post by bravebor on Jan 9, 2016 19:01:10 GMT
welp i usually waffle on to much, so will try to make this short and sweet for a change.
people selling for higher price just because...
people that buy for higher price just because they can...
newbs that see higher prices being asked or do do the whole "offer" deal from some1 buying op and consequently think that must be the actual and correct price.
newbs seeing higher priced by those buying op and consequently making a trend on what is available at their lvl as the 1st price they try to ask will be the 1st they see (well duh) and as cannsequence of a higher avg being made due to newbs gullibility, the op price seen will be higher...
drop in iq of new players? (is it just me, or has irunian population gotten more stupid in the past year I've been here?)
and of course, i think some of the very key culprits for op prices seen offered are...yup you guessed it, my pet hate (ok 1 of...) people that buy their spina for real money. Like COME ONNN Ive said it before and I'll bloody well say it again. spending money to buy a virtual currency?! like i can understand the whole deal of paying for coins for stuff from item shop(i think $200 to get an ava as i read 1 person say is kinda overboard tho...) as thats the only way you get that stuff. for the life of me tho, i nust simply dont understand paying real money for something you could get FOR FREE if you just put a little effirt in x.x
and whats worse is, after throwing how ever much at this game to get the best of eveything, they will go "meh I'm bored with this toy now" and move on to something else after a few mths smh...
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glaubr
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hw 280 n servant 200
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Post by glaubr on Jan 9, 2016 19:09:05 GMT
Some months ago ganei was 13m and now i c 20m n a crazy nob was trying 30m.. now any player can do mq to 220 and kill him in few seconds x.X but why farm hours a boring boss to drop a xtal when u can easilly farm bosses like leviam to get 20m with a ns armor? Sorry for new players searching for good equips D: ninja logic?... any class logic x.x moldus was 35m and now i c 55-60m, ziddu was 10~15m and now i see players selling for 70m, bergen was 50m n now 100m, mezza was 35m n now 60m, raton was 90m n now 180m again.. i know, nobody farm this bosses now but... its overpriced when u c old prices |
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