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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jul 2, 2014 9:59:01 GMT
wondering if INT/VIT/STR all stat capped will have good dps since dmg calculation for guardian ={(ATK+STR)×4-Mob DEF}×attribute value}(current HP×0.11).D.Roar for damage(2atk/str&int+20%HP!)/Orichal Hammer for tanking(still have decent dmg(3atk/str+tankiness+hate!) if dex doesnt effect guardian skilll delay I think INT/VIT/STR can work with Throw knife. You get +4ATK total for each pair of INT/STR. Although Normal sword will also have +4ATK total with pair of STR/DEX. Special swords are the ultimate since they get a total of +4.5ATK (STR/VIT/DEX) There is another post in this forum where I declared that the guardian formula to be incorrect (or guardian is nerfed) (click here for the topic). We are getting less figures than what the JP wiki is suggesting. I tried revising the formula to this and it seems to get me near the damage figures that I actually deal: (((ATK - Mob Def) x 4) +STR) x attribute value or element bonus) + (HP x 0.055) The HP x 0.055 is physical penetration so it will deal damage in high DEF boss (or barrier activated). Of course, this needs to be confirmed by other Pallys.
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Oct 29, 2014 11:20:11 GMT
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Post by potato on Oct 29, 2014 11:20:11 GMT
wondering if INT/VIT/STR all stat capped will have good dps since dmg calculation for guardian ={(ATK+STR)×4-Mob DEF}×attribute value}(current HP×0.11).D.Roar for damage(2atk/str&int+20%HP!)/Orichal Hammer for tanking(still have decent dmg(3atk/str+tankiness+hate!) if dex doesnt effect guardian skilll delay I think INT/VIT/STR can work with Throw knife. You get +4ATK total for each pair of INT/STR. Although Normal sword will also have +4ATK total with pair of STR/DEX. Special swords are the ultimate since they get a total of +4.5ATK (STR/VIT/DEX) There is another post in this forum where I declared that the guardian formula to be incorrect (or guardian is nerfed) (click here for the topic). We are getting less figures than what the JP wiki is suggesting. I tried revising the formula to this and it seems to get me near the damage figures that I actually deal: (((ATK - Mob Def) x 4) +STR) x attribute value or element bonus) + (HP x 0.055) The HP x 0.055 is physical penetration so it will deal damage in high DEF boss (or barrier activated). Of course, this needs to be confirmed by other Pallys. hey which dmg bigger vit dex str or vit str dex? gonna change stats for lvling to 220
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Oct 29, 2014 23:44:07 GMT
hey which dmg bigger vit dex str or vit str dex? gonna change stats for lvling to 220 I havent tested but I think vit dex will hit better. I just chose vit str because I I intended to use normal swords.
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Oct 30, 2014 1:29:06 GMT
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Post by potato on Oct 30, 2014 1:29:06 GMT
hey which dmg bigger vit dex str or vit str dex? gonna change stats for lvling to 220 I havent tested but I think vit dex will hit better. I just chose vit str because I I intended to use normal swords. str for abuse sauro blade? ill try vit dex str for higher def, and atk, i got bishop that follow me where ever i go,so .. dont need to spam potion
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Oct 30, 2014 1:41:10 GMT
I havent tested but I think vit dex will hit better. I just chose vit str because I I intended to use normal swords. str for abuse sauro blade? ill try vit dex str for higher def, and atk, i got bishop that follow me where ever i go,so .. dont need to spam potion yeah sauro blade for my solo, and another 2s sword for my currones because I found it hard to buy a special sword for currones. Of course if you have the convenience of a bishop you can do VIT/DEX for better ATK. BTW, higher DEF stat is good for mobs/bosses that do low damage. On certain occassions a Katz (vs.Non-element) will negate more damage. I noticed this when I compared mitigation when I was soloing Dullahan 255 and had a significant drop (around 1k+ mitigation) compared to Wound Transer (which barely negated anything, if at all).
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Oct 30, 2014 1:55:25 GMT
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Post by potato on Oct 30, 2014 1:55:25 GMT
str for abuse sauro blade? ill try vit dex str for higher def, and atk, i got bishop that follow me where ever i go,so .. dont need to spam potion yeah sauro blade for my solo, and another 2s sword for my currones because I found it hard to buy a special sword for currones. Of course if you have the convenience of a bishop you can do VIT/DEX for better ATK. BTW, higher DEF stat is good for mobs/bosses that do low damage. On certain occassions a Katz (vs.Non-element) will negate more damage. I noticed this when I compared mitigation when I was soloing Dullahan 255 and had a significant drop (around 1k+ mitigation) compared to Wound Transer (which barely negated anything, if at all). so katz is better for high hitter monster? and wound transer for low hitter? thats why that jp pally use katz for solo almas
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Oct 30, 2014 2:39:45 GMT
so katz is better for high hitter monster? and wound transer for low hitter? thats why that jp pally use katz for solo almas I believe Katz is good mitigation vs non element (like Dullahan) for everything else you would have to rely on the DEF:4. W Transer is good for low dmg because 256DEF is -256dmg. If mobs hit you with 256dmg, you would see 1dmg whereas 256dmg -4% is 245dmg which you won't notice. If it hits you with 25,600dmg, you would see 25,344 from -256dmg which you probably wouldn't notice, whereas 4% less damage is 24,576 which you will notice. So for high damage % is better, for low dmg, DEF stat is better. Katz 2slot 2x MaxHP20% gets me to 79kHP, W Transer 1slot MaxHP20% gets my HP to 72.5k. I'm choosing Katz for the HP gain, not sure if 2slot W Transer will be better than my Katz or just end up the same (I don't have 2s WTS). Anyway, +12VIT from Katz is also good amount of HP gain once you have good level and stack HP20%'s.
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Oct 30, 2014 6:08:40 GMT
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Post by potato on Oct 30, 2014 6:08:40 GMT
so katz is better for high hitter monster? and wound transer for low hitter? thats why that jp pally use katz for solo almas I believe Katz is good mitigation vs non element (like Dullahan) for everything else you would have to rely on the DEF:4. W Transer is good for low dmg because 256DEF is -256dmg. If mobs hit you with 256dmg, you would see 1dmg whereas 256dmg -4% is 245dmg which you won't notice. If it hits you with 25,600dmg, you would see 25,344 from -256dmg which you probably wouldn't notice, whereas 4% less damage is 24,576 which you will notice. So for high damage % is better, for low dmg, DEF stat is better. Katz 2slot 2x MaxHP20% gets me to 79kHP, W Transer 1slot MaxHP20% gets my HP to 72.5k. I'm choosing Katz for the HP gain, not sure if 2slot W Transer will be better than my Katz or just end up the same (I don't have 2s WTS). Anyway, +12VIT from Katz is also good amount of HP gain once you have good level and stack HP20%'s. oh i see.. i just use w trans and ama, idk about katz potential .. ama for magic boss like mezza, lmao received 1 dmg and w trans for def, might try katz as it sitting in my storage since w transer out btw how many hp needed to reach 100k with divine aura?
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Oct 30, 2014 8:22:10 GMT
oh i see.. i just use w trans and ama, idk about katz potential .. ama for magic boss like mezza, lmao received 1 dmg and w trans for def, might try katz as it sitting in my storage since w transer out btw how many hp needed to reach 100k with divine aura? Katz 2x HP20 and HP4 ability Idealsol HP20 Saltus HP20 HP5 ability KGS HP20 VIT3 ability MaxVIT level 226, Warcry, Divine, lands me at about 105k HP.
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Oct 30, 2014 13:37:23 GMT
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Post by potato on Oct 30, 2014 13:37:23 GMT
oh i see.. i just use w trans and ama, idk about katz potential .. ama for magic boss like mezza, lmao received 1 dmg and w trans for def, might try katz as it sitting in my storage since w transer out btw how many hp needed to reach 100k with divine aura? Katz 2x HP20 and HP4 ability Idealsol HP20 Saltus HP20 HP5 ability KGS HP20 VIT3 ability MaxVIT level 226, Warcry, Divine, lands me at about 105k HP. that katz 2s.. cant afford xD what if w trans 20%, ideal 20%, , lich 20% and kgns? 80-90k?
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Oct 30, 2014 15:56:40 GMT
Katz 2x HP20 and HP4 ability Idealsol HP20 Saltus HP20 HP5 ability KGS HP20 VIT3 ability MaxVIT level 226, Warcry, Divine, lands me at about 105k HP. that katz 2s.. cant afford xD what if w trans 20%, ideal 20%, , lich 20% and kgns? 80-90k? Yes, at lvl220 I have the same estimates.
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Oct 30, 2014 22:09:34 GMT
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Post by potato on Oct 30, 2014 22:09:34 GMT
that katz 2s.. cant afford xD what if w trans 20%, ideal 20%, , lich 20% and kgns? 80-90k? Yes, at lvl220 I have the same estimates. ok thanks ^-^)/
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Jun 9, 2015 10:41:01 GMT
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Post by Capicuo on Jun 9, 2015 10:41:01 GMT
Hello fellow pallies!
I'm trying to build a DPS pally. Still a proyect atm tho.
Stats: AGI (140)/VIT MAX/STR MAX/100 RDL.
Apostolia: Central row RED, left two blue.
Equipment: - Masamune/Murasama+9 HP20% or Ama no habakiri+9 Ziddu (for counter). - Ira+9 (when released) HP20% - Ideasol+9 Vida/Raton - Millies Cellist HP20%
With this set I should have high HP, def and a nice DPS from issen autoskill (15-20k) or ama counter (max 9999). Furthermore purple line will boost my autoskill rate and crt rate. ASPD will be boosted as well so, once I have apostolia I may reset and lower AGI points ^^
Why dont I just use bersek? Becouse I prefer to save MP for buffing and I'd like to solo Bosses just spamming sp rev ale (hopefully lol).
So, I'd like to hear ur thoughts and advices. Thank u in advance.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jun 9, 2015 13:12:26 GMT
Hello fellow pallies! I'm trying to build a DPS pally. Still a proyect atm tho. Stats: AGI (140)/VIT MAX/STR MAX/100 RDL. Apostolia: Central row RED, left two blue. Equipment: - Masamune/Murasama+9 HP20% or Ama no habakiri+9 Ziddu (for counter). - Ira+9 (when released) HP20% - Ideasol+9 Vida/Raton - Millies Cellist HP20% With this set I should have high HP, def and a nice DPS from issen autoskill (15-20k) or ama counter (max 9999). Furthermore purple line will boost my autoskill rate and crt rate. ASPD will be boosted as well so, once I have apostolia I may reset and lower AGI points ^^ Why dont I just use bersek? Becouse I prefer to save MP for buffing and I'd like to solo Bosses just spamming sp rev ale (hopefully lol). So, I'd like to hear ur thoughts and advices. Thank u in advance. 1) Per my experience from Lebenglanz, Offensive Autoskills will not proc with Double attack. So your autoskill rate will be capped since double attack is also affected by Autoskill+% 2) If you rely on 1 CRT, you can achieve max crit rate, but your damage will be dismal. Below is my video of 1CRT rate with nearly 4k ATK, per my estimate a full STR/CRT will have around 20k to 30k crits and around 40k to 60k stun parry so my damage of 10k and 20k stun parry is pitiful despite high ATK gear: 3) I think I can achieve 340+ASPD with 1AGI, but will probably need to add some gears (like +100% ASPD, Yang garb, AGI abilities and maybe even beelzedam*not sure if this is the ASPD one* or some wild dance if it still doesn't cut it). So you may need less AGI considering you are on purple with red line bonus. 4) You might want to consider Lebenglanz for Auto if you still insist on 1CRT, it does decent damage (I can hit 50k versus dark) but not as well in DPS as guardian, my comparison here (using only HP20%s, you can try Kaise Pilz for more damage maybe, but i'm not sure how it will hold): 5) I don't really recommend having AGI since berserk does the job pretty well, but if you add AGI you might want to consider going max so you have good evasion. 6) There is a glitch where you click potion and immediately click berserk. The 10sec delay will be reduced to potion delay. Or you could opt to use quick use and item delay to reduce it. I hope you find some of these information/advice useful.
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Post by lacs on Jun 9, 2015 15:43:22 GMT
Abusing of glitch/bugs in game? You shouldn't, but whatever
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