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Post by Owe on Apr 23, 2022 1:17:24 GMT
I dont know why some people not satisfy with HW new skill or adjustment. For me, i think monk need more adjustment for the new skill. I'am not say new skill is trash, it's OK skill. I dont like it because its 'only' use when u have pt, u strong if u have friend like the buff name(friendship). But see other job(snip,hw,pally), they have new skill that can used alone and it stronger him/herself. And what about flash knock? Its just drag u closer to the enemy, only that. I think this skill flash knock need more ability like increase movement speed or dealt additional dmg on first hit after skill triggered. idk I think flash knock is a pretty cool skill. Even if it only saves a second of running animation, if you kill a boss in 10 seconds or less, technically this skill speeds up your kill speed by 10% or more. Even for 20 second runs, this represents 5% faster kills. Range gives you more range which means further flash knock, which means even more time saved… I understand the disappointment, but I literally cannot fathom skills better than shell break, asura and geo. |
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Post by Owe on Apr 23, 2022 1:20:15 GMT
I am a full 8 slot Hw and i can assure you, Zero never killed bosses in 4 Hits. Ever. Especially not solo. This is a change to Hw build. If you're using the old builds/gear ofc your dmg is going to suffer. I do about 4 times as much Dps with Imperial as i did zero spam with very little change to equipment. Claiming people who are one shotting some of the strongest bosses in the game are missing brain cells, while you fail to even use the skill correctly is honestly insulting to actual Hw players. yes, you're right, hw is pretty strong (finally!), i managed to kill joshuca casting 7-8 imperial zero ray in party  This guy: crying Me: happy 1 shooting ep 6 bosses xD Imperial Zero Ray!! You dealt 17m dmg. xD 😂 apparently just make bigger boom needs galaxy brain iq |
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Post by jamban on Apr 23, 2022 1:49:48 GMT
I am a full 8 slot Hw and i can assure you, Zero never killed bosses in 4 Hits. Ever. Especially not solo. This is a change to Hw build. If you're using the old builds/gear ofc your dmg is going to suffer. I do about 4 times as much Dps with Imperial as i did zero spam with very little change to equipment. Claiming people who are one shotting some of the strongest bosses in the game are missing brain cells, while you fail to even use the skill correctly is honestly insulting to actual Hw players. yes, you're right, hw is pretty strong (finally!), i managed to kill joshuca casting 7-8 imperial zero ray in party  This guy: crying Me: happy 1 shooting ep 6 bosses xD Imperial Zero Ray!! You dealt 17m dmg. xD for real finally in my entire playtime with HW actually usefull for the pt as dps, first time i tried i bet the casting will fall behind other dps and failed to cast. Turn out it doesn't boom 10m with my half ass build I just hope they'll do something to Law of Element/forceboost i don't think they are practical right now. |
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hsaputro
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Waiting for eps 7 of iruna
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Post by hsaputro on Apr 23, 2022 2:03:59 GMT
What is new equipment set to utility new skill?
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Post by ishayel on Apr 23, 2022 10:41:13 GMT
You need enough cast spd to cast imperial in less than 5s.
Damage is totally random.
The fact you need under 20% mp makes the thing totally no natural, while you struggling to survive, casting useless skills to down mp if mp to high, while boss will not wait you.
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Post by ishayel on Apr 23, 2022 10:45:56 GMT
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Post by Undyne on Apr 23, 2022 11:15:28 GMT
You need enough cast spd to cast imperial in less than 5s. Damage is totally random. The fact you need under 20% mp makes the thing totally no natural, while you struggling to survive, casting useless skills to down mp if mp to high, while boss will not wait you. Use a -MaxMp set. Only really requires a cheap 2s (Chainmail, Dark Helm, etc) and 2 Mezza xtals. Depending on your main set you may not even need any -MaxMp, and just use a Resist set to drop mp while casting the second Bander |
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Post by senoragi on Apr 23, 2022 12:12:36 GMT
You need enough cast spd to cast imperial in less than 5s. Damage is totally random. The fact you need under 20% mp makes the thing totally no natural, while you struggling to survive, casting useless skills to down mp if mp to high, while boss will not wait you. the damage of bander and assault duration has been increased, so you have 6~7s assault when using bandersnatch lv2  |
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Post by ishayel on Apr 24, 2022 16:32:51 GMT
Most of ch 6 runs are 10-15s runs, just heal their mp. You won't get time to do any imp zero. This mechanics are not adapated to current iruna boss farm mechanics. If you have time to do one or two zero you lucky, or you play with weaks team. And a lot just solo them very fast, in like 20-30s.
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Post by Undyne on Apr 24, 2022 23:16:23 GMT
Most of ch 6 runs are 10-15s runs, just heal their mp. You won't get time to do any imp zero. This mechanics are not adapated to current iruna boss farm mechanics. If you have time to do one or two zero you lucky, or you play with weaks team. And a lot just solo them very fast, in like 20-30s. or ya know, like, use Cast time and still do a solid 10m even with the reduced dmg from Multicast? seriously, you just don't want to be happy with Hw, do you? |
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Rocketpower
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I thought to miss you, Another to hate..
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Post by Rocketpower on Apr 25, 2022 6:03:47 GMT
Most of ch 6 runs are 10-15s runs, just heal their mp. You won't get time to do any imp zero. This mechanics are not adapated to current iruna boss farm mechanics. If you have time to do one or two zero you lucky, or you play with weaks team. And a lot just solo them very fast, in like 20-30s. You sound like those people who use Vida/wol+ Ouvel on sin and gets one shot by ep6 boss and complaint why is Assassin so trash and show off DMG just on Luna 10m |
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Post by blackghost on Apr 26, 2022 3:29:52 GMT
Most of ch 6 runs are 10-15s runs, just heal their mp. You won't get time to do any imp zero. This mechanics are not adapated to current iruna boss farm mechanics. If you have time to do one or two zero you lucky, or you play with weaks team. And a lot just solo them very fast, in like 20-30s. You sound like those people who use Vida/wol+ Ouvel on sin and gets one shot by ep6 boss and complaint why is Assassin so trash and show off DMG just on Luna 10m Thats right these sassy new skill haters. All they do nowadays is use Vida+wol+ ouvel, be salty about assasins, eat the damage and cry. |
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Post by ishayel on Apr 30, 2022 19:00:06 GMT
You are totally wrong, i don't use ouvel, nor any malus ai/gear in sin.
I just solo any ch 6 bosses solo with sin, most of time in less than 20s.
I have not complain about sin as well, my sin very strong, and with very high dps.
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Post by ishayel on Apr 30, 2022 19:25:17 GMT
Most of ch 6 runs are 10-15s runs, just heal their mp. You won't get time to do any imp zero. This mechanics are not adapated to current iruna boss farm mechanics. If you have time to do one or two zero you lucky, or you play with weaks team. And a lot just solo them very fast, in like 20-30s. You sound like those people who use Vida/wol+ Ouvel on sin and gets one shot by ep6 boss and complaint why is Assassin so trash and show off DMG just on Luna 10m I am speaking on new hw skills. With current bosses, hw combo not usable, and only good ( well best on hw lol) was bander zero zero combo. With new up on skills, this combo, that was weak vs other jobs is weaker and they added a new longer combo, that do burdt dmg, but have low dps, or 0 dps on team. If you don't trust me, just try do your combo in duo with a monk. You'll be ready to cast the imperial zero when boss is dead. Just drain is too slow. Time you cast it and be ready to cast thor hammer, boss have lost 1/4 of his hp. So doing even this fast combo : Thor hammer Thor hammer Zero ( no bander) Low mp set Spellboost Dps set Mana stock Mana stock Dps set Bander imperial Boss died before even you reach low mp set. And if you manage to do up to cast imperial, boss kills you while casting imperial. Any adjustement to cast spd, resistances, hp pot delay is impossible. Dmg of burst will become crap ( i do the huge dmg burst of 4x200k with resdam set lol), and because use of multicast, you cannt use fast cast set or dmg drop too fast, so we stuck. Abd if we use old way, so zero only, it's too dangerous and weak now, because or you need walk after each last zero to cast bander to be close, or you walk during assault to go close range to do zero, so free hits for bosses for a job that is very weak already ( in survival and dps). Why take a hw that will do no dmg, need a tank, and a healer for his survival... The new op combo of hw is just : Heal set Spam heal on you and team mp heal. Support job lol So as i announced from start, they definitively kill hw. So why just not remove job, and give free reset to hw to change job. Just play with end game geared jobs and you'll see. Why kill joshuca with a hw in 7 combo, if any other job kills it in 30-40s. When i farm josh, i play minstrel tank and 2 dps and a safe healer if one shoot. Josh die in like 20s-30s. If a job is useless on team, job is useless. And in this case hw only usefull for team mp heal, but useless if minstrel on team lel. So useless job, with no specific boosts on team or dps. Is it done for sell job reset cash shop items. Well don't work. If you take hw and see it's so bad job that the point of doing last job quest will make you weaker than before, you will not do another job, just change game. Nobody wants play ( free) during 5y to farm gear in a boring way (kill monsters, again and again during hundreds of hours, that are very slow to respawn) to get a worst result than if you just never do any job reset. I see well Low wizard as job name, it have nothing atm with a high wizard. I know they hate wizards, because occidental job, but will not help them. |
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Post by ishayel on Apr 30, 2022 19:42:06 GMT
Most of ch 6 runs are 10-15s runs, just heal their mp. You won't get time to do any imp zero. This mechanics are not adapated to current iruna boss farm mechanics. If you have time to do one or two zero you lucky, or you play with weaks team. And a lot just solo them very fast, in like 20-30s. or ya know, like, use Cast time and still do a solid 10m even with the reduced dmg from Multicast? seriously, you just don't want to be happy with Hw, do you? I play iruna from start. Got like 50 differents sets, and tested + think them all. All hw cast time and delay have min cast time, even if you get very high cast spd, but with multicast, dmg continue to lower even if you reach min cadt time. Even with enough cast time to reach this min cast time, you still too slow, dps is too low, and only imperial burst do some damage. You will tell, because no minst ? Other players i play, if you add a minst it's not 10s run but 5s run ( and speaking about ch 6 bosses) . Just stop to find excuses, hw is weak and last up just definitively kill the job. Aside the combo beeing too long, you need memorize where you are in combo, but manage bosse as well. They poison, paralyze, 0 mp, 1 hp, drains mp, etc that slow even you more. Battle is not luna, i don't care about luna, but any ch6 bosse in team with friends. Ok you can do 10m+ burst after 10s, but friends i play with do 1m+ per auto atk lel, or with sin half boss hp after sicarius and do 2m backstab after... Compare hw mechanics with other dps jobs and mechanic is not usable and outdated. Just time you cast imperial with min cast time, they do more than your poor 10m dmg that will never lend |
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