Altorm
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Iruna Is Not The Same, Wish We Could Go Back To The Good Times Of Iruna
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Post by Altorm on May 6, 2015 19:28:23 GMT
MK so now im quite pissed about the prices of iruna for to long lol....... So if someone could answer my question or direct me to a thread that explains the prices........ Because im just making this because i see that snow earmuffs is 220M like why? 6% and -1 cost 220M??? Like whats the point of making it soo expensive if that stats are not even good? like some xtals speaking like mezza it was 18M now it jumped to 40M/ WHY i just want to know why the prices of iruna market is so high..... After my question been answerd feek free to lock this thread.
Thx In advance
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Post by _ on May 6, 2015 19:33:09 GMT
s.muffs are time sensitive items, it also has a nice auto skill to it, good for chanters or bishops, its hard as hell to get one, let alone one slot mezza is high sought after, but not many like to farm it so off demand supersedes supply so price will skyrocket
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on May 6, 2015 19:45:49 GMT
I'd love to buy a cheap 60m s.muff...but if i was selling one its gonna be 200m+ o.o i'd like to buy moh for 2m but if im ever selling one ish gonna be 4m. I think everyone is the same on this matter >.<
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Post by _ on May 6, 2015 19:48:10 GMT
I'd love to buy a cheap 60m s.muff...but if i was selling one its gonna be 200m+ o.o i'd like to buy moh for 2m but if im ever selling one ish gonna be 4m. I think everyone is the same on this matter >.< not i said the fly i sell and buy at same price, ganei is 15m? okay i buy and sell that price
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Post by omen on May 6, 2015 19:50:01 GMT
Because people pay for them..prices would drop if buyers refused to pay x amount. ultimately it's the buyers "fault" ( not the best word ) for high prices lol sellers would be forced to lower the price or junk the item if it wasn't for people paying x amount for whatever it is...if people are willing to pay 40 mil ( for example ) then sellers will charge 40 mil ..if no one bought x item for 40 mil then the sellers 2 choices are lower the price or junk the item/npc it. That's how the iruna "market" works and will continue to work ..I personally think prices can be laughable BUT that doesn't change how things work. You're angry ..I get it..but unless you get every player to refuse to pay x amount for x item then you're not gonna see change. This is just my opinion though.
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Roxzen
Community Contributor
Goodbye :) Thanks for the memories Iruna, the Forums was an awesome place!
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Post by Roxzen on May 6, 2015 20:03:27 GMT
When was Mezza @ 18m? o-o I saw it at a constant 40m every time I went to see koko o-o
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on May 6, 2015 20:14:04 GMT
I meant if i bought somthing for a low price i'd like that. If i sold at a high price i'd like that too.
If i bought op i'd hate that If i sold under priced i'd hate that
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Post by Jeancarlo on May 6, 2015 20:35:30 GMT
MK so now im quite pissed about the prices of iruna for to long lol....... So if someone could answer my question or direct me to a thread that explains the prices........ Because im just making this because i see that snow earmuffs is 220M like why? 6% and -1 cost 220M??? Like whats the point of making it soo expensive if that stats are not even good? like some xtals speaking like mezza it was 18M now it jumped to 40M/ WHY i just want to know why the prices of iruna market is so high..... After my question been answerd feek free to lock this thread.
Thx In advance Here you go en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demandP.S. I never saw mezza for 18m either... Because people pay for them..prices would drop if buyers refused to pay x amount. ultimately it's the buyers "fault" ( not the best word ) for high prices lol sellers would be forced to lower the price or junk the item if it wasn't for people paying x amount for whatever it is...if people are willing to pay 40 mil ( for example ) then sellers will charge 40 mil ..if no one bought x item for 40 mil then the sellers 2 choices are lower the price or junk the item/npc it. That's how the iruna "market" works and will continue to work ..I personally think prices can be laughable BUT that doesn't change how things work. You're angry ..I get it..but unless you get every player to refuse to pay x amount for x item then you're not gonna see change. This is just my opinion though. It's called Supply and Demand, and it's both the Buyer's and the Seller's "fault". Some items, I too am perplexed about (plazuda, I never understood even before Abilities and stat release came out), but at the end of the day, it's because people are willing to "agree" on a price.
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on May 6, 2015 20:50:21 GMT
^ this is correct and to prevent the" so i should buy vit +1 for 10m" argument:
High demand/low supply=high price
Low demand/high supply=low price
Who would farm ganie if the xtal was 1m? (Ninjas i know >.> but for arguments sake..)
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 6, 2015 21:18:45 GMT
Some items, I too am perplexed about (plazuda, I never understood even before Abilities and stat release came out), but at the end of the day, it's because people are will Superior marketing beats superior product. Some people buy not for what a product really does but what other people say It does.
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Post by omen on May 6, 2015 21:43:05 GMT
MK so now im quite pissed about the prices of iruna for to long lol....... So if someone could answer my question or direct me to a thread that explains the prices........ Because im just making this because i see that snow earmuffs is 220M like why? 6% and -1 cost 220M??? Like whats the point of making it soo expensive if that stats are not even good? like some xtals speaking like mezza it was 18M now it jumped to 40M/ WHY i just want to know why the prices of iruna market is so high..... After my question been answerd feek free to lock this thread.
Thx In advance Here you go en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demandP.S. I never saw mezza for 18m either... Because people pay for them..prices would drop if buyers refused to pay x amount. ultimately it's the buyers "fault" ( not the best word ) for high prices lol sellers would be forced to lower the price or junk the item if it wasn't for people paying x amount for whatever it is...if people are willing to pay 40 mil ( for example ) then sellers will charge 40 mil ..if no one bought x item for 40 mil then the sellers 2 choices are lower the price or junk the item/npc it. That's how the iruna "market" works and will continue to work ..I personally think prices can be laughable BUT that doesn't change how things work. You're angry ..I get it..but unless you get every player to refuse to pay x amount for x item then you're not gonna see change. This is just my opinion though. It's called Supply and Demand, and it's both the Buyer's and the Seller's "fault". Some items, I too am perplexed about (plazuda, I never understood even before Abilities and stat release came out), but at the end of the day, it's because people are willing to "agree" on a price. At the end of the day it's about what people are willing to PAY. price means nothing if there's no one willing to pay the price man come on lol Hence..change in prices are dictated by the BUYER. But that's your opinion. I stated mine. ** one last thing...a seller doesn't agree on any price lol the buyer agrees..if the price isn't ok with the buyer then guess what? They WON'T buy it ..therefore the seller really isn't in control. He/she could slap any price they want on it but if the buyer thinks the price is sh*t then they're not gonna purchase it lol So yeah ..it's the buyer who dictates price. It's not about agreement ..it's about the one purchasing the item and what they are willing to pay. The buyer holds the real power on what prices can be..they just fail to realize that. I'm done on this though..you'll think whatever way you want to lol those that understand how it works will understand what I'm saying. Have a good day.
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on May 6, 2015 22:06:21 GMT
Thats a valid point o.o
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Post by ✧ on May 6, 2015 22:27:33 GMT
You know,
As time increases, so does the Money Supply from players NPCing items.
As Money Supply increases, so does purchasing power.
As purchasing power increases, so does price level as more people are willing to pay more. Thus, demand increases. As demand increases, price level increases due to competition.
This is called Inflation (of price level).
The only way to decrease price level is when demand is low and/or the supply is high, you can guess what happens at that point.
TL;DR: Screw Rokoko market, grow up and farm stuff yourself (or with a buddy) e3e/ Supply and Demand, blah blah blah.... Economics, blah blah blah... Screw Rokoko, blah... 40M colon hat, blah blah Zzz....
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 6, 2015 22:30:08 GMT
Well if I cant get the item anywhere else I follow the sellers price. This is when they can dictate because the item is unique hence it gives them leverage. But for everything else, the majority buyers sets the market prices.
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Aroxis
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I get broads in atlanta tho :v
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Post by Aroxis on May 6, 2015 23:13:37 GMT
Iruna Market fluctuates too much like real life. The reason for this is because too many people are in direct contact when trading. An example is this.
Person 1: Sell Vanregal 10m P2: Sell Vanregal 10m P1: Sell Vanregal 9m! P2: Sell Vanregal 7m RUSSSH
And from that point all 100 people in rokoko see vanregal as 7m Instead of the original 10m
Another example is me. The day before the upgrades of Hulam Brut came I bought 5 Hulam Brut for 3.5-4m each. After Ugrades came I sold each one of them for 10m each because that is what people wanted to pay.
If we had a more stable trading system like stalls, stuff like this would never happen. There would not be as much price fluctuation bc no one sees what the other person is selling
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