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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 7, 2015 7:26:01 GMT
kinda true but its mainly all down to greed eg ganie at one point was 32-40m dropped to 25m now 14-15m and coughs I sold em 10m cuz and again (cough) <----- not greedy √ Well, one can think of it as greed while the other would just think that he is giving value for his time (or working smart). A man can clean toilets for $30 per day while another guy can do the same job for $10. Another guy would even do it just for a quick buck. Of course some people wouldn't clean toilets even if you offer them $100, it doesn't make them greedy, they just don't want to do it.
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Post by jamesdark on May 7, 2015 7:42:05 GMT
kinda true but its mainly all down to greed eg ganie at one point was 32-40m dropped to 25m now 14-15m and coughs I sold em 10m cuz and again (cough) <----- not greedy √ Well, one can think of it as greed while the other would just think that he is giving value for his time (or working smart). A man can clean toilets for $30 per day while another guy can do the same job for $10. Another guy would even do it just for a quick buck. agreed 100% but also if said man enjoys his job(aka farming) then the spina should surely be a bonus?^^ so poorer man may make less regardless of working smart but enjoy it more then said man charging more and getting stressed in the process.simplicity is the way
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 7, 2015 8:00:54 GMT
Well, one can think of it as greed while the other would just think that he is giving value for his time (or working smart). A man can clean toilets for $30 per day while another guy can do the same job for $10. Another guy would even do it just for a quick buck. agreed 100% but also if said man enjoys his job(aka farming) then the spina should surely be a bonus?^^ so poorer man may make less regardless of working smart but enjoy it more then said man charging more and getting stressed in the process.simplicity is the way I personally enjoy farming because I make spina out of it. The value is the motivation. If each xtal sells for 5 spina, although it is 5x more of what NPC would buy it, I wouldn't farm it, it just doesn't make sense to me, not sure if it would to you. BTW, it wouldn't hurt to be rich and enjoy your job at the same time. Story of a man looking for a job.Man: I need a job. Boss: You need a job? Come work for me. Plenty of work here. You're hired! After 2 month's worth of work... Man: Boss, I've been working for 2 months now, but where's my pay? Boss: First, you came to me looking for a job, I took pity and gave you one, but now you come to me again and this time you are asking me for money? You, sir, are abusing my generosity. You're fired! Boss grumbles: Some people are just so greedy theses days, you give them one thing and they always come back asking for more.
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Post by jamesdark on May 7, 2015 8:06:04 GMT
agreed 100% but also if said man enjoys his job(aka farming) then the spina should surely be a bonus?^^ so poorer man may make less regardless of working smart but enjoy it more then said man charging more and getting stressed in the process.simplicity is the way I personally enjoy farming because I make spina out of it. The value is the motivation. If each xtal sells for 5 spina, although it is 5x more of what NPC would buy it, I wouldn't farm it, it just doesn't make sense to me, not sure if it would to you. Story of a man looking for a job.Man: I need a job. Boss: You need a job? Come work for me. Plenty of work here. You're hired! After 2 month's worth of work... Man: Boss, I've been working for 2 months now, but where's my pay? Boss: First, you came to me looking for a job, I took pity and gave you one, but now you come to me again and this time you are asking me for money? You, sir, are abusing my generosity. You're fired! Boss grumbles: Some people are just so greedy theses days, you give them one thing and they always come back asking for more. lol true true can't argue there but in Irina terms if a boss gave me let's say 420k XP also solo but rare was worth 10m compared to say 280kxp and 15m spins I'd personally choose the first as I gain more leading to bigger farms rinse wash repeat ^^ spins comes eventuely regardless of the demand Rome as they say wasn't built in a day.anyway I gtg to work now sadly lol and not toilet cleaning ^^ jk
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Post by asteg on May 7, 2015 18:37:53 GMT
Mmmmm.... Farm me a cerb xtal and aroudight mats pls o.o
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Post by jamesdark on May 9, 2015 15:56:34 GMT
Mmmmm.... Farm me a cerb xtal and aroudight mats pls o.o what mats ya need asteg bro?
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Post by asteg on May 9, 2015 16:00:50 GMT
I dont o.o i already got em all
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Post by saratobi on May 12, 2015 13:51:37 GMT
Yeah I too have often thought this, but like others said its a supply a demand thing, if people are willing to pay a certain price then the item will cost a certain price, but sellers can be responsible for driving up prices if they work together.
One thing in particular that's been bothering me is the price of Plazuda, lets face it really, its certainly not worth anywhere near 15m, I think we should collectively decide to at least change the price of that, its worth 10m at the very most.
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Post by _ on May 12, 2015 14:49:51 GMT
Yeah I too have often thought this, but like others said its a supply a demand thing, if people are willing to pay a certain price then the item will cost a certain price, but sellers can be responsible for driving up prices if they work together.
One thing in particular that's been bothering me is the price of Plazuda, lets face it really, its certainly not worth anywhere near 15m, I think we should collectively decide to at least change the price of that, its worth 10m at the very most. no one will collectively try to band together to try and drop a price, a good chunk of iruna are spina greedy, if anything price might go up since its high in demand and not many farm it
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2015 17:15:48 GMT
You all have valid points but prices are a function of a lot of things. Sellers need for spina, items and in X amount of time + buyers desperation and wealth + rarity of item or supply + difficulty of drop + etc..
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Post by asteg on May 12, 2015 19:39:18 GMT
Go sell megi s for 600m, anyone with 2.6b that wants megi s will buy o.o whereas ppl with 600m that want megi will probably look for a 400m seller
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Post by saratobi on May 13, 2015 5:15:28 GMT
Yeah I too have often thought this, but like others said its a supply a demand thing, if people are willing to pay a certain price then the item will cost a certain price, but sellers can be responsible for driving up prices if they work together.
One thing in particular that's been bothering me is the price of Plazuda, lets face it really, its certainly not worth anywhere near 15m, I think we should collectively decide to at least change the price of that, its worth 10m at the very most. no one will collectively try to band together to try and drop a price, a good chunk of iruna are spina greedy, if anything price might go up since its high in demand and not many farm it I didnt say they would drive down prices. What i am saying though, is with the uncertainty around certain items, its easy for a hand full of players to dictate the price of said items.
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Post by Crysta| on May 14, 2015 4:46:42 GMT
well if you look at it on the sellers side: Buyer offers 1m,Seller says: Go farm it yourself Buyer offers 5m Seller says: Go farm it yourself Buyer offers 9m Seller says: Ok, I'll farm it for you It doesn't look like the buyer has any power when it is the seller who decides when to sell. But in reality, nobody has monopoly power because it is a free market. Buying stuff now isn't really being impatient. You can be patient and buy tomorrow but by the time you have the item it is already mediocre because there are other better gears that are out, which kinda defeats the purpose of you getting better gears. People who don't have much spina end up with mediocre gears which leads to mediocre levels and mediocre farms due to lack of capability. People who have spina get good gears and end up with good levels which leads to good farms due to increase in capability. You wouldn't want to have your first Ganei 3 years from now would you? No, I understand what you mean and I get it lol all I meant is in theory a buyer would have more power if they're willing to forgo " I need it now" ..I don't expect that to ever happen, not would I personally wait that long ..the bottom line is prices will be whatever ppl mane them to be..all I was doing was stating a theory. One of which will really never happen. My view was just that the buyer really is the one doing the paying. Anyone can set any price as long as there's someone willing to pay. the buyer is giving the cash ..the seller supplies the item..if a buyer doesn't pay then they still have the cash which can be used to purchase other things..if a seller can't sell an item then all they have is an item that can't be used to purchase other items. that's all I meant ..I really can't explain it much more than I already have without using visual examples of which I can't. So...my opinion/view is my own, just a theory..nothing to be taken too serious. Have a great day next time I'll refrain from stating personal opinions on this forum. Off topic question but do you always respond after saying you're done giving input on a thread? A lack of sincerity makes it hard if not impossible for anyone to take you seriously to any extent. Though the seller in your scenario is left with an item which has no immediate purchasing power, they have an item which the price of could go up, meaning more potential purchasing power later. An example, buyer wants to buy mezzaluna xtal for 40M but seller refuses. Buyer still has 40M to purchase other items while the seller still has a potential of 40M. Let's say in 1-3 days the price of ◇ mezzaluna goes up to 50M, the would-be buyer still has his 40M to buy items however the seller who decided not to sell at that time now has 50M in which to buy items.
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Post by omen on May 14, 2015 5:03:35 GMT
No, I understand what you mean and I get it lol all I meant is in theory a buyer would have more power if they're willing to forgo " I need it now" ..I don't expect that to ever happen, not would I personally wait that long ..the bottom line is prices will be whatever ppl mane them to be..all I was doing was stating a theory. One of which will really never happen. My view was just that the buyer really is the one doing the paying. Anyone can set any price as long as there's someone willing to pay. the buyer is giving the cash ..the seller supplies the item..if a buyer doesn't pay then they still have the cash which can be used to purchase other things..if a seller can't sell an item then all they have is an item that can't be used to purchase other items. that's all I meant ..I really can't explain it much more than I already have without using visual examples of which I can't. So...my opinion/view is my own, just a theory..nothing to be taken too serious. Have a great day next time I'll refrain from stating personal opinions on this forum. Off topic question but do you always respond after saying you're done giving input on a thread? A lack of sincerity makes it hard if not impossible for anyone to take you seriously to any extent. Though the seller in your scenario is left with an item which has no immediate purchasing power, they have an item which the price of could go up, meaning more potential purchasing power later. An example, buyer wants to buy mezzaluna xtal for 40M but seller refuses. Buyer still has 40M to purchase other items while the seller still has a potential of 40M. Let's say in 1-3 days the price of ◇ mezzaluna goes up to 50M, the would-be buyer still has his 40M to buy items however the seller who decided not to sell at that time now has 50M in which to buy items. I respond whenever I feel like it ..not that I even need to explain that to you. Have a good day.
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Post by Crysta| on May 14, 2015 5:43:50 GMT
Off topic question but do you always respond after saying you're done giving input on a thread? A lack of sincerity makes it hard if not impossible for anyone to take you seriously to any extent. Though the seller in your scenario is left with an item which has no immediate purchasing power, they have an item which the price of could go up, meaning more potential purchasing power later. An example, buyer wants to buy mezzaluna xtal for 40M but seller refuses. Buyer still has 40M to purchase other items while the seller still has a potential of 40M. Let's say in 1-3 days the price of ◇ mezzaluna goes up to 50M, the would-be buyer still has his 40M to buy items however the seller who decided not to sell at that time now has 50M in which to buy items. I respond whenever I feel like it ..not that I even need to explain that to you. Have a good day. You mean you respond after saying you will not respond, an explanation would be pointless when it becomes contradiction.
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