mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 22, 2014 2:07:58 GMT
This is my theory for now. If anyone adds your dex up and pass though this, please help me.
Equip -CD DEX ----------------- ----------- -3.5 83 -3.0 106 -2.5 129 -2.0 153 -1.5 176 -1.0 198 -0.5 221 -0.0 245
Thanks.
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Flarius
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What do people do with all the extra time they save by writing "K" instead of "OK"?
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Post by Flarius on Dec 22, 2014 4:19:53 GMT
This is my theory for now. If anyone adds your dex up and pass though this, please help me. Equip -CD DEX ----------------- ----------- -3.5 83 -3.0 106 -2.5 129 -2.0 153 -1.5 176 -1.0 198 -0.5 221 -0.0 245 Thanks. i just quit my job 2 weeks ago and im still jobless now,so,it will take a month or 2 for me to bring up my financial status,thus makin me unable to buy steflys e.e,,,,FLAREWK!!!!! WHERE R U
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 22, 2014 4:34:29 GMT
This is my theory for now. If anyone adds your dex up and pass though this, please help me. Equip -CD DEX ----------------- ----------- -3.5 83 -3.0 106 -2.5 129 -2.0 153 -1.5 176 -1.0 198 -0.5 221 -0.0 245 Thanks. i just quit my job 2 weeks ago and im still jobless now,so,it will take a month or 2 for me to bring up my financial status,thus makin me unable to buy steflys e.e,,,,FLAREWK!!!!! WHERE R U Oh, Im sorry with you. I hope you will find better job and..... Tada!!! Help me out. LOLz
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Post by Kazora on Dec 22, 2014 5:17:41 GMT
LOL thanks to Flarius again for testing! Tell me how you like BS spamming build compared to your solo build XDD
I would have been willing to do a complete thorough test... IF I HAD BACKSTAB lol Got a Stefly from 50th day daily login reward few days ago ( ´ ▽ ` )
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Post by godofafro on Dec 22, 2014 13:19:56 GMT
It's hard to confirm whether a bs is 1sec sharp- even with multiple trial and errors, but you know you are close to it when your swinging animation and your delay "cooled" at the same time (the fraction of a second when ur throwing knife is pointing upwards at a straight angle)
I tried lesser dex for sake of more damage, but I can't achieve the consistent spam, (in normal cases, to repeat bs spam, i eye the delay bar- assuming it is a gauge meter from 0% to 100%, at about the 20% mark I'll start pressing bs to keep up the smooth spam)
in my opinion...im still sticking towards the 20dex rule of thumb, my hand motor skills are already accustomed to it- im able to put up a consistent press-stop-press timing for bs, rather than a person pressing the button non stop. (this prevents your char from autoattacking too)
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Post by 4lb3rto5 on Dec 28, 2014 21:35:40 GMT
so im asuming all of u look for damage over backastab but... how does survavility goes? max int-crt dex(the necesary to skill delay) and srt (75+) so if mob or boss catch u u are fried... now what about grinding exp? i was talking to Birmaza and the Flarius build is based on hybrid stats (wich im using and confortable with) of all agi int vit>crt. (hybrid saying about to use nail and throw but for obvious reason i use throw) then he says he better goes for vit over eva (or agi) for me my eva is importarnt and vit (IF i get hit i can resist the hit -so pet or me can heal-) making calculations at cap now total point to use will be 802 stat points how to spend to have enough agi decent dex necesary str and the obvious crt.... it seemd all of the dex build are able to have pty always. what to do with solo players like us? (main problem i see in build is no eva and be death all time -and sorry is my opinion-)
thanks alot!
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Post by godofafro on Dec 29, 2014 1:08:33 GMT
so im asuming all of u look for damage over backastab but... how does survavility goes? max int-crt dex(the necesary to skill delay) and srt (75+) so if mob or boss catch u u are fried... now what about grinding exp? i was talking to Birmaza and the Flarius build is based on hybrid stats (wich im using and confortable with) of all agi int vit>crt. (hybrid saying about to use nail and throw but for obvious reason i use throw) then he says he better goes for vit over eva (or agi) for me my eva is importarnt and vit (IF i get hit i can resist the hit -so pet or me can heal-) making calculations at cap now total point to use will be 802 stat points how to spend to have enough agi decent dex necesary str and the obvious crt.... it seemd all of the dex build are able to have pty always. what to do with solo players like us? (main problem i see in build is no eva and be death all time -and sorry is my opinion-) thanks alot! bs spammers are built mostly for parties only, thus survivability isn't the main factor here there is a way for bs spammer to go solo, but you require a high output of damage- kill boss before it kills you
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Post by elk on Feb 16, 2015 20:16:05 GMT
This is my theory for now. If anyone adds your dex up and pass though this, please help me. Equip -CD DEX ----------------- ----------- -3.5 83 -3.0 106 -2.5 129 -2.0 153 -1.5 176 -1.0 198 -0.5 221 -0.0 245 Thanks. -2 skill delay 160 Dex didn't give me 1 sec 180 dex did though but 160 was less than half a second off from 1 sec
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Feb 16, 2015 20:39:04 GMT
This is my theory for now. If anyone adds your dex up and pass though this, please help me. Equip -CD DEX ----------------- ----------- -3.5 83 -3.0 106 -2.5 129 -2.0 153 -1.5 176 -1.0 198 -0.5 221 -0.0 245 Thanks. -2 skill delay 160 Dex didn't give me 1 sec 180 dex did though but 160 was less than half a second off from 1 sec Thank you for your testing. I appreciate that. If you get any more information, please let me know.
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Eocin
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Post by Eocin on Jun 18, 2018 1:26:00 GMT
I don't know if this topic still interests you, but I've done a few tests and I'd like to contribute to this discussion. I ran a few tests with no fortune and no buffs. My guild is level 81. with 170 character dex and -1.5 sd, bs cd is about 1.20-1.25 seconds (with results more often closer to 1.20) with 180 character dex and -1.5 sd, bs cd is about 1.10-1.15 seconds (with results more often closer to 1.10) Therefore, 1 sec bs cd can probably be achieved with 190 character dex and -1.5 sd. I know people say that 20 dex = -0.5 sec, but with the tests I've run, this does not seem to be the case. With an increase of 10 dex (from 170 dex to 180 dex), I was only able to shave off -0.1 seconds. I don't know why this is the case, but this is what I have found. I hope this helps you more than it confuses you!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 5:38:39 GMT
I don't know if this topic still interests you, but I've done a few tests and I'd like to contribute to this discussion. I ran a few tests with no fortune and no buffs. My guild is level 81. with 170 character dex and -1.5 sd, bs cd is about 1.20-1.25 seconds (with results more often closer to 1.20) with 180 character dex and -1.5 sd, bs cd is about 1.10-1.15 seconds (with results more often closer to 1.10) Therefore, 1 sec bs cd can probably be achieved with 190 character dex and -1.5 sd. I know people say that 20 dex = -0.5 sec, but with the tests I've run, this does not seem to be the case. With an increase of 10 dex (from 170 dex to 180 dex), I was only able to shave off -0.1 seconds. I don't know why this is the case, but this is what I have found. I hope this helps you more than it confuses you! My senpai told me something similar, but when I tested it in the test server (which is closed now), 20 dex does indeed cut off 0.5sec sd. There might be some differences in the eng and jp server, Idk, but it's nice info. Thanks.
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Eocin
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Post by Eocin on Jun 18, 2018 5:50:51 GMT
I don't know if this topic still interests you, but I've done a few tests and I'd like to contribute to this discussion. I ran a few tests with no fortune and no buffs. My guild is level 81. with 170 character dex and -1.5 sd, bs cd is about 1.20-1.25 seconds (with results more often closer to 1.20) with 180 character dex and -1.5 sd, bs cd is about 1.10-1.15 seconds (with results more often closer to 1.10) Therefore, 1 sec bs cd can probably be achieved with 190 character dex and -1.5 sd. I know people say that 20 dex = -0.5 sec, but with the tests I've run, this does not seem to be the case. With an increase of 10 dex (from 170 dex to 180 dex), I was only able to shave off -0.1 seconds. I don't know why this is the case, but this is what I have found. I hope this helps you more than it confuses you! My senpai told me something similar, but when I tested it in the test server (which is closed now), 20 dex does indeed cut off 0.5sec sd. There might be some differences in the eng and jp server, Idk, but it's nice info. Thanks. Test server (beta player server?)? I am not familiar with this, but it may have run under different rules than the servers that exist now. Since it worked for you in this server, perhaps the 20 dex = -0.5 sec sd is outdated information that no longer holds true in current servers. This is most interesting. Thanks for the info!
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Post by 'AhSaN' on Jun 18, 2018 5:57:11 GMT
There might be some differences in the eng and jp server, Idk, but it's nice info. Thanks. I don't think it's possible. The only differences are the new stuff they get first and the newbie friendly interface (They show more tutorials for newbies more than EN version)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 7:29:20 GMT
My senpai told me something similar, but when I tested it in the test server (which is closed now), 20 dex does indeed cut off 0.5sec sd. There might be some differences in the eng and jp server, Idk, but it's nice info. Thanks. Test server (beta player server?)? I am not familiar with this, but it may have run under different rules than the servers that exist now. Since it worked for you in this server, perhaps the 20 dex = -0.5 sec sd is outdated information that no longer holds true in current servers. This is most interesting. Thanks for the info! The test server was open until the mt last week and was accessible via jp iruna app, so it is updated (and will come in the future). It had unreleased (at least in the eng version) stuff and building a character was made super easy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 7:33:32 GMT
There might be some differences in the eng and jp server, Idk, but it's nice info. Thanks. I don't think it's possible. The only differences are the new stuff they get first and the newbie friendly interface (They show more tutorials for newbies more than EN version) Then there could be something we missed. It's an interesting coincidence that @ewpeople's and Eocin's findings were quite similar, having done the tests months apart.
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