mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 4, 2014 19:38:46 GMT
I haven't add dex to my assassin yet, so I don't know much about dex's detail for Back Stab skill. I plan to add it, soon. I tried to find information from this board a lot, but I get confuse about this skill's delay.
Firstly, Sins said it has 6.5 sec delay.
Secondly, it need 245 and Hawkeye to reduce its delay became 1 sec.
Last but not lease, someone said 20dex=-0.5sec.
After I calculated something, I feel 1 of 3 might be wrong.
If Back Stab need 245dex and Hawkeye to reduce 5.5sec delay, 20dex won't reduce 0.5sec delay.
However, if both 245dex and 20dex=-.5sec theories are corrected, BS should not has 6.5sec delay.
The only one thing I could check right away is BS's delay, so I tested it first.
The result is Back Stab has about 6.5 delay without buff and dex. I tested several times and find the average to reduce the error.
Is it true that 20dex will reduce 0.5 sec? Is it wrong?
Or, does JP wiki provide the incorrect information about 245dex?
I just don't want to waste my status point, and I don't have any Shelfy Book.
Thanks
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Post by ✧ on Dec 4, 2014 20:07:56 GMT
It is perceived to be valid that 20 DEX = a reduction of half a second for backstab. What is it that is confusing? Shape confused. |
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 4, 2014 20:34:25 GMT
It is perceived to be valid that 20 DEX = a reduction of half a second for backstab. What is it that is confusing? Shape confused. So, we can make 0 sec delay, can't we? |
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Roxzen
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Goodbye :) Thanks for the memories Iruna, the Forums was an awesome place!
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Post by Roxzen on Dec 4, 2014 20:38:24 GMT
It is perceived to be valid that 20 DEX = a reduction of half a second for backstab. What is it that is confusing? Shape confused. So, we can make 0 sec delay, can't we? The furthest any skill's delay can be brought down to is 1 second. Even if you have equips that bring your delay to zero on a skill, it'll only be able to shave it down to 1 second and no more. Edit: But 1 second isn't even that noticeable, just wanted to point out 0 sec delay isn't possible (from what I've heard and tested) |
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 4, 2014 20:43:02 GMT
So, if 20 DEX = a reduction of half a second for backstab is corrected, we will need only 205 dex.
Am I right?
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Post by ✧ on Dec 4, 2014 20:43:57 GMT
It is perceived to be valid that 20 DEX = a reduction of half a second for backstab. What is it that is confusing? Shape confused. So, we can make 0 sec delay, can't we? Skill delay > (or equal to) 1 second. Even with 0 second delay, there is still delay due to character arm swing and player button pressing, which isn't the topic here. ;P |
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Post by _ on Dec 4, 2014 20:44:25 GMT
So, if 20 DEX = a reduction of half a second for backstab is corrected, we will need only 205 dex. Am I right? why would you have less then max anyway? throw weapons gain atk from int and dex unless you're a nail build.. |
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 4, 2014 20:50:58 GMT
So, if 20 DEX = a reduction of half a second for backstab is corrected, we will need only 205 dex. Am I right? why would you have less then max anyway? throw weapons gain atk from int and dex unless you're a nail build.. If I have enough Dex for 1sec delay, Str will be more useful from my view. |
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Post by _ on Dec 4, 2014 20:51:58 GMT
why would you have less then max anyway? throw weapons gain atk from int and dex unless you're a nail build.. If I have enough Dex for 1sec delay, Str will be more useful from my view. if you're throw build, dex offers more atk per point then str afaik |
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 4, 2014 20:54:46 GMT
If I have enough Dex for 1sec delay, Str will be more useful from my view. if you're throw build, dex offers more atk per point then str afaik INT=2atk STR=2atk DEX=1atk That is why I want go for STR after I have enough dex. |
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 4, 2014 20:57:26 GMT
So, we can make 0 sec delay, can't we? Skill delay > (or equal to) 1 second. Even with 0 second delay, there is still delay due to character arm swing and player button pressing, which isn't the topic here. ;P Thus, assassins need only 205 dex without gear to make 1sec delay. Am I right? |
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Roxzen
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Goodbye :) Thanks for the memories Iruna, the Forums was an awesome place!
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Post by Roxzen on Dec 4, 2014 20:58:03 GMT
So, if 20 DEX = a reduction of half a second for backstab is corrected, we will need only 205 dex. Am I right? why would you have less then max anyway? throw weapons gain atk from int and dex unless you're a nail build.. To want less than max would be for the sole reason to focus on str earlier (especially with a spam build), since BS assassin's would focus on max int first ( for illusion m.eva and throw atk rise) and max crit (for Double Backstab rate). Str provides more atk and also helps trigger sicarius. |
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Post by _ on Dec 4, 2014 20:58:36 GMT
why would you have less then max anyway? throw weapons gain atk from int and dex unless you're a nail build.. To want less than max would be for the sole reason to focus on str earlier (especially with a spam build), since BS assassin's would focus on max int first ( for illusion m.eva and throw atk rise) and max crit (for Double Backstab rate). Str provides more atk and also helps trigger sicarius. ty makes sense now |
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b2kite
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Post by b2kite on Dec 4, 2014 21:13:48 GMT
+1 Int = +2 Atk
+1 Str = +2 Atk
+1 Dex = +1 Atk
+20 Dex = -0.5sec delay
Assassin Class = +10 Dex Correction
HawkEye = +15 Dex
And still crt is more important than Dex.
Perfect build will be Int/Crt cap, 75str for Sicarius stun proc and rest in Dex to get 1sec delay on selfbuff, after tat back to srt. When we get stats release adding points in int, crt and str will give more benefits than dex. Moreover srt and crt give more dmg output than dex from Sukia.
About maxing dex we can start thinkin when we get AoE skill: "Numerology to utilizes a shadow walk surprise. And physical attacks by ATK, to perform the defense ignored attack by MATK." Dex also affect Poison dmg, but almost noone use it atm, and even withiout capped Dex it will do good dmg becouse of Int.
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Dec 4, 2014 21:28:17 GMT
I think I got it now. 245dex for 1sec is wrong.
Due to many answers show that +20dex=-0.5sec delay, I have to have about 205dex to get 1 sec delay for BS.
Thank you very much for the answers.
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