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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Oct 15, 2016 8:51:18 GMT
Idk if sk is that great o.o/ (well I do know sk is great if not I'm lying) but since it needed clone in order to do the hit, it makes ninja in a situation of kill or be killed if they couldn't defeat a boss in one hit. Ofc this situation is different from pally that does one hit and hw that can spam zero because refilling mp is no problem (well at least my friend can annihilate iniliba under 7 seconds). But so far I only met one level cap magic nin with his best gear (idk what he use lol because he covered it with Ava and the only thing I know is that he use Sauro aster) but dmg seems so moderate with all my full buff (wisdom that boost matk, passion that boost atk, nostalgia that boost critical, and liberation that boost job bonus) he does only 1.2M max dmg to mega and we need to run back town several time when fighting Meelis 😂 lol that was hilarious moment because he is surrender against the almighty dragon
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Post by (☆) on Oct 15, 2016 11:13:25 GMT
Kill or be killed is depends on how to play with it,if confident with eva% then use sk till the last clone.
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Oct 15, 2016 11:38:37 GMT
Idk if sk is that great o.o/ (well I do know sk is great if not I'm lying) but since it needed clone in order to do the hit, it makes ninja in a situation of kill or be killed if they couldn't defeat a boss in one hit. Ofc this situation is different from pally that does one hit and hw that can spam zero because refilling mp is no problem (well at least my friend can annihilate iniliba under 7 seconds). But so far I only met one level cap magic nin with his best gear (idk what he use lol because he covered it with Ava and the only thing I know is that he use Sauro aster) but dmg seems so moderate with all my full buff (wisdom that boost matk, passion that boost atk, nostalgia that boost critical, and liberation that boost job bonus) he does only 1.2M max dmg to mega and we need to run back town several time when fighting Meelis 😂 lol that was hilarious moment because he is surrender against the almighty dragon So if you can't one shot bosses, a skill is not that great? And er...i mean...we can create back clones ya know? >.> I guess crossfire is not that great then ._.)/ This skill provide a ninja a whole new dps. Of course it has to decrease the survivability side ._. Doing more than 150k per second if you do sk/bunshin/sk/bunshin/sk/bunshin is still great. And about Meelis, any ninja or assassin would die since we don't have hp. Oh and btw Self buff+bish+ wisdom and nost since the mins didn't have passio. And i'm far from cap and full eqp
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Dragsbro
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I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Oct 15, 2016 11:43:15 GMT
Hahaha, with same conditions, 900k here xD i'll catch up when i'll be cap *^*)9
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Oct 15, 2016 14:48:08 GMT
Idk if sk is that great o.o/ (well I do know sk is great if not I'm lying) but since it needed clone in order to do the hit, it makes ninja in a situation of kill or be killed if they couldn't defeat a boss in one hit. Ofc this situation is different from pally that does one hit and hw that can spam zero because refilling mp is no problem (well at least my friend can annihilate iniliba under 7 seconds). But so far I only met one level cap magic nin with his best gear (idk what he use lol because he covered it with Ava and the only thing I know is that he use Sauro aster) but dmg seems so moderate with all my full buff (wisdom that boost matk, passion that boost atk, nostalgia that boost critical, and liberation that boost job bonus) he does only 1.2M max dmg to mega and we need to run back town several time when fighting Meelis 😂 lol that was hilarious moment because he is surrender against the almighty dragon So if you can't one shot bosses, a skill is not that great? And er...i mean...we can create back clones ya know? >.> I guess crossfire is not that great then ._.)/ This skill provide a ninja a whole new dps. Of course it has to decrease the survivability side ._. Doing more than 150k per second if you do sk/bunshin/sk/bunshin/sk/bunshin is still great. And about Meelis, any ninja or assassin would die since we don't have hp. Oh and btw Self buff+bish+ wisdom and nost since the mins didn't have passio. And i'm far from cap and full eqp I didn't say it's not that great, it's great to be able one shot mega but the thing is since most ninja doesn't add vit for survivability and only depends on clone and clone used up when doing sk and gone when stunned and unavailable when blinded and I just wonder if my friend lying or not about ninja can one shot bosses well the point with Meelis is just that if you can't one shot him then you get killed
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Post by (☆) on Oct 15, 2016 14:53:50 GMT
Ninja can 1 shot boss,but not all boss~_~,and if want to do 1 shot farm it wise to build a doc equipment,not sk.And again,it still not all boss can be able to 1 hit even with full doc equips.
So your friend is not lying at some point.
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Dragsbro
Community Contributor
I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Oct 15, 2016 14:56:20 GMT
So if you can't one shot bosses, a skill is not that great? And er...i mean...we can create back clones ya know? >.> I guess crossfire is not that great then ._.)/ This skill provide a ninja a whole new dps. Of course it has to decrease the survivability side ._. Doing more than 150k per second if you do sk/bunshin/sk/bunshin/sk/bunshin is still great. And about Meelis, any ninja or assassin would die since we don't have hp. Oh and btw Self buff+bish+ wisdom and nost since the mins didn't have passio. And i'm far from cap and full eqp I didn't say it's not that great, it's great to be able one shot mega but the thing is since most ninja doesn't add vit for survivability and only depends on clone and clone used up when doing sk and gone when stunned and unavailable when blinded and I just wonder if my friend lying or not about ninja can one shot bosses well the point with Meelis is just that if you can't one shot him then you get killed eeer ok but...we can have like 3 clones whenever we want..spamming 1 sk 1 bunshin 1 sk is quite reliable. Even more with swify shadow (even if this passive can slow down yarde kills -3-) And i mean, sk isn't the prob against meelis, every ninja has been affected by his trap with or without sk >.> If u can't kill a boss without 1shotting it, then that's not the role of sk to make you able to do it .-. However i'll try and tell you if i can kill meelis or not ^^
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Post by nic123 on Oct 15, 2016 17:55:12 GMT
ok so 2k atk and 5k matk here. i dont have ulti reup yet, using bellow atm. my sk is 270k 3 clone, 440k 1 clone. ik pretty nub qwq. on sboost its more but i barely use. so yea hope that can assist in formula building. ps. i use ele throws so that adds something. and also artemis is better than uroboros at yardes and imseti for me.
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Oct 15, 2016 21:51:49 GMT
Ninja can 1 shot boss,but not all boss~_~,and if want to do 1 shot farm it wise to build a doc equipment,not sk.And again,it still not all boss can be able to 1 hit even with full doc equips. So your friend is not lying at some point. Lol I could one shot bosses with doc too and yeah not all boss just some earlier weak boss like false Grecia, but thing is that she said that to be able to do one shot with new skill (which means sk here) to even raton lol that's quite impossible but dk, might be there's one who did it? Who knows
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Post by (☆) on Oct 15, 2016 22:19:43 GMT
Ninja can 1 shot boss,but not all boss~_~,and if want to do 1 shot farm it wise to build a doc equipment,not sk.And again,it still not all boss can be able to 1 hit even with full doc equips. So your friend is not lying at some point. Lol I could one shot bosses with doc too and yeah not all boss just some earlier weak boss like false Grecia, but thing is that she said that to be able to do one shot with new skill (which means sk here) to even raton lol that's quite impossible but dk, might be there's one who did it? Who knows Well if that the case,i dont belive either o.o
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Dragsbro
Community Contributor
I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Oct 15, 2016 22:27:39 GMT
Lol I could one shot bosses with doc too and yeah not all boss just some earlier weak boss like false Grecia, but thing is that she said that to be able to do one shot with new skill (which means sk here) to even raton lol that's quite impossible but dk, might be there's one who did it? Who knows Well if that the case,i dont belive either o.o More than not believing it either, i don't even see the point of doing it >.>
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Post by nic123 on Oct 15, 2016 22:43:54 GMT
Idk if sk is that great o.o/ (well I do know sk is great if not I'm lying) but since it needed clone in order to do the hit, it makes ninja in a situation of kill or be killed if they couldn't defeat a boss in one hit. Ofc this situation is different from pally that does one hit and hw that can spam zero because refilling mp is no problem (well at least my friend can annihilate iniliba under 7 seconds). But so far I only met one level cap magic nin with his best gear (idk what he use lol because he covered it with Ava and the only thing I know is that he use Sauro aster) but dmg seems so moderate with all my full buff (wisdom that boost matk, passion that boost atk, nostalgia that boost critical, and liberation that boost job bonus) he does only 1.2M max dmg to mega and we need to run back town several time when fighting Meelis 😂 lol that was hilarious moment because he is surrender against the almighty dragon well i have both hw and sk nin owo. i can tell u that the sk nin is mire convinient for soloing. as a hw i do about twice my sk dmg with zero but this is cuz my hw has good gear and good apos and my nin has low apos due to rushing to 300 as mins. reason sk is more convinient is cuz it doesent have to rely on bander etc and my nin basically has unlimited mp with dangos and a mp set, clones keep me safe. i havent even been in full pt as a sk nin yet but as a dps i can tell u a pro sk nin wil do more damage than a pro zero hw in full pt.
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Oct 16, 2016 6:28:30 GMT
well i have both hw and sk nin owo. i can tell u that the sk nin is mire convinient for soloing. as a hw i do about twice my sk dmg with zero but this is cuz my hw has good gear and good apos and my nin has low apos due to rushing to 300 as mins. reason sk is more convinient is cuz it doesent have to rely on bander etc and my nin basically has unlimited mp with dangos and a mp set, clones keep me safe. i havent even been in full pt as a sk nin yet but as a dps i can tell u a pro sk nin wil do more damage than a pro zero hw in full pt. I felt the benefit of having clones as ninja xd haha yeah but I was just like Me : can't wait for new songs to release xd Friend : Ninja can one shot raton with new skill and new song Me : whoa really? Friend : yes but hw can one shotting eyes while they 2-3 shotting Me : that's not bad since they can one shotting raton with my buff Me in my mind : might well be change myself back to nin for farming raton and etc Me farming Meelis w/ nin : can't one shotting and keep dying e.ea what the heck she was talking about again? And then nin gave up because he couldn't do Meelis for Long run e.ea
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Dragsbro
Community Contributor
I'm kind of a necromancer, as in playing with SK is just toying with dead stuff at this point
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Post by Dragsbro on Oct 16, 2016 8:13:06 GMT
well i have both hw and sk nin owo. i can tell u that the sk nin is mire convinient for soloing. as a hw i do about twice my sk dmg with zero but this is cuz my hw has good gear and good apos and my nin has low apos due to rushing to 300 as mins. reason sk is more convinient is cuz it doesent have to rely on bander etc and my nin basically has unlimited mp with dangos and a mp set, clones keep me safe. i havent even been in full pt as a sk nin yet but as a dps i can tell u a pro sk nin wil do more damage than a pro zero hw in full pt. I felt the benefit of having clones as ninja xd haha yeah but I was just like Me : can't wait for new songs to release xd Friend : Ninja can one shot raton with new skill and new song Me : whoa really? Friend : yes but hw can one shotting eyes while they 2-3 shotting Me : that's not bad since they can one shotting raton with my buff Me in my mind : might well be change myself back to nin for farming raton and etc Me farming Meelis w/ nin : can't one shotting and keep dying e.ea what the heck she was talking about again? And then nin gave up because he couldn't do Meelis for Long run e.ea your friend was talking about phantom flame XD however im curious to see a hw 1 shotting a 3eye Abt meelis i tried..stun and blind got me after a while x) i got his hp down to half pretty quickly and then i died because of potato network and stun XD but i guess if theres someone who can heal, or even running back, can do it in pt. Tho it's still what i mentioned before, dying cause of stun isnt a specifity of sk XD
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on Oct 16, 2016 10:04:26 GMT
I felt the benefit of having clones as ninja xd haha yeah but I was just like Me : can't wait for new songs to release xd Friend : Ninja can one shot raton with new skill and new song Me : whoa really? Friend : yes but hw can one shotting eyes while they 2-3 shotting Me : that's not bad since they can one shotting raton with my buff Me in my mind : might well be change myself back to nin for farming raton and etc Me farming Meelis w/ nin : can't one shotting and keep dying e.ea what the heck she was talking about again? And then nin gave up because he couldn't do Meelis for Long run e.ea your friend was talking about phantom flame XD however im curious to see a hw 1 shotting a 3eye Abt meelis i tried..stun and blind got me after a while x) i got his hp down to half pretty quickly and then i died because of potato network and stun XD but i guess if theres someone who can heal, or even running back, can do it in pt. Tho it's still what i mentioned before, dying cause of stun isnt a specifity of sk XD Idk e.e I'm still not sure even if phantom flame can one shotting bosses like raton well I had a bunch of crazy friends one said he can blizzard 1.5M to eyes the other said she saw her friend doc ing 250k using Sauro shooter while his stat are agi dex CRT I don't even sure if zero can one shot eyes though it can to mega
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