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Hi guys so I thought about it and there aren't many guides for paladins on what they should use gear wise/crysta wise, so I think I'll give it a shot at compiling masses amount of information on what Paladins should use for each of their sets should they want to make their tanking capabilities at its best.

If I have missed out anything please post below as it will be added to the guide should it not have been posted on the guide ^^)/ Those that help will be given credit at the end.

Builds:

These are the builds stat-wise most paladins use within the game, it solely depends on your preference for which build you go for. Remember, all of these builds can tank as long as they have VIT as their main stat.

Guardian Spam Builds

VIT/INT/DEX - Magic Sword/Special Sword guardian spam user
Pros:
+ High MP Pool
+ Can tank Magic mobs better compared to VIT/DEX/STR
+ Quick Cooldown between buffs
+ Self Heal really useful when there's no bishop, can make use of it due to high MP Pool

Cons:
- Not as much damage compared to VIT/DEX/STR
- Relies on HP Pots/Bishop's heal for spamming Guardian
- Not as much gear selection compared to other builds
- May feel slow at leveling at first.

VIT/DEX/STR - Normal Sword/Bow guardian spam user
Pros:
+ Highest guardian damage between the guardian builds
+ Variety of gear selection to choose from
+ Quick Cooldown between buffs

Cons:
- Lower MP Pool compared to builds that have INT
- Can't tank Magic mobs as well compared to builds that have INT
- Relies on HP Pots/Bishop's heal for spamming Guardian

VIT/INT/STR - Normal Sword/Cane/Throwing guardian spam user
Pros:
+ High MP Pool
+ Can tank Magic mobs better compared to VIT/DEX/STR
+ Self heal really useful when there's no bishop, can make use of it due to high MP Pool.

Cons:
- Not as much damage compared to Special Sword VIT/DEX/STR paladins
- Slow quick cooldown between buffs compared to builds that have DEX
- Relies on HP Pots/Bishop's heal for spamming Guardian

Berserk Spam Builds

VIT/INT/CRT - Magic Sword berserk spam user
Pros:
+ High MP Pool
+ Can take magic hits better compared to VIT/STR/CRT
+ Longer Berserk duration compared to VIT/STR/CRT
+ Good for 1v1 soloing bosses

Cons:
- Slow quick cooldown between buffs compared to builds that have DEX
- Not as much critical damage dealt compared to VIT/STR/CRT
- HP Pot/Mp Pot Reliant when spamming Berserk

VIT/STR/CRT - Normal Sword berserk spam user
Pros:
+ Higher critical berserk damage compared to VIT/INT/CRT
+ Good for 1v1 soloing bosses

Cons:
- Slow quick cooldown between buffs compared to builds that have DEX
- Will take more magic damage from Mobs compared to VIT/INT/CRT
- Quicker Berserk duration compared to VIT/INT/CRT
- HP Pot/MP Pot Reliant when spamming Berserk

Gear Sets:

Here is a list of gear sets for what most paladins tend to use within the game. Feel free to select from the gears stated below to match your own preference.

☆HP☆

Armors:

Saltus Up: ATK +2%, MaxHP +10%, MaxMP +5%, magic resistance +5%, HP natural recovery +30%, (hidden correction: Items delay -1 seconds)

Chainmail Re Up: MaxHP +10%, MaxMP +10%, HP Natural Recovery +20%, Item Delay -0.5 seconds

Weapons:

Dragon Roar (Throwing): Fire attribute, ASPD -10%, MaxHP +20%, critical damage +6%, critical rate +30

Katzbalger Up (Special Sword): VIT +12, evasion -14%, non-resistant + 5%, rate cut +5%

Wound Transer (Special Sword): Max HP + 15%, Reflect + 5%, DEF up by DEX

Vermillion (Sword): MaxHP +20%, Rate cut +10%, ATK up or down by STR base ASPD, Melee +20% to Neutral

Hihiiro Hammer (Sword): MaxHP +20%, MDEF +30%, Hate rise +35%

Addtional Gear:

Idealsol: Max HP +20% Melee R +5% Fire R -20% Damage cut chance by defense DEF up based on Lv

Hibiscus: MaxHP + 17%, magic resistance + 5%, land tolerance + 5%, INT + 1, DEX + 3, physical power +50

Miwi hat II: MaxHP +25%, MDEF +150, ASPD-10%

Duel Shield: MaxHP +10%, Physical Resistance +10%. When attacking: chance of additional attack.

Special Equipment:

Knight Gauntlet: ATK up by VIT with Swords, ATK+30, Max HP+15%

Orichalcum Ring: MaxHP (+12~14%?)

Gigantic Ring: MaxHP +20%, physical resistance -5%, magic resistance -5%

Damascus Ring: MaxHP (+8~+10%?)

Crystas:

Max HP +20%: Max HP increase by 20%

Max HP +17%: Max HP increase by 17%

Max HP +14%: Max HP increase by 14%

Douin: MaxHP +20%, ATK & MATK -5%, Range Reduction +10%. When equipped to special equipment, MaxHP +20% and Range Reduction +5%

Piton: MaxHP15% MaxMP+10%

Kaize Piltz: Max HP+30%, Physical resistance -10% Magic Resistance -10%

Abilities:

☆Vitality (VIT +1 Per Tier)

☆HP (HP +280, Increases by +160 Per Tier)

☆Attack☆

Armors:

Dragon Mail: ATK +5%, MATK +6%, CRT rate +5%, Melee & Magic R +4%, Absolute Accuracy +10%

Exelis Re Up: ATK +3%, MATK +3%, EVA +10%, Magic R +12%, Skill Delay -1.5 seconds

Saltus Up: ATK +2%, MaxHP +10%, MaxMP +5%, magic resistance +5%, HP natural recovery +30%, (hidden correction: Items delay -1 seconds)

Heinrich Mail: ATK +8%, MATK +8%, Melee Pierce +2%, Magic Pierce +2%, Cut Damage if HP is less than 25%, Magic Evasion +5%

Weapons:

Dragon Roar (Throwing): Fire attribute, ASPD -10%, MaxHP +20%, critical damage +6%, critical rate +30

Katzbalger Up (Special Sword): VIT +12, evasion -14%, non-resistant + 5%, rate cut +5%

Izuminokami (Special Sword): STR +10, ATK +5%, critical rate -10%, MaxHP +10%

Sinbad III (Magic Sword): -50% damage to wind, Agi +24, Evasion rate up chance by attack, Wind Element, Magic Sword

Moonlight (Bow): ATK +5%, ASPD -100%, MP Cost -25%, Skill Delay -1 Second, Accuracy Rate +5%

Illusion (Bow): ATK +10%, skill delay -0.5 seconds, absolute hit +5%, magic around +5%

Celtis Bow: ATK + 15% Accuracy + 10% hate growth rate + 10% item delay -0.5 seconds

Additional Gear:

Barbarotita: ATK +5%, Accuracy rate -25%, Skill Delay -0.5 seconds

Schlacht Helm: ATK +6%, Auto HP recovery +20%, Melee Resistance +5%, Critical Damage +1%, Absolute Accuracy +10%

Granvia Shield: ATK +6%, Rate cut +10%, Range cut +10%, KO Time -0.5 seconds

Special Equipment:

Knight Gauntlet: ATK up by VIT with Swords, ATK +30, Max HP +15%

Thimble: ATK up by DEX with Bow

Crystas:

Schlingel: ATK +6, ATK +8%, Critical rate -10

Suigetsu: ATK +10%, HIT -30%, Crit Chance -30%

Vida: ATK +4% hate rise +15%, adds ATK +8% Hate rise-15% on addgear (negates the + hate rise effect)

Plazuda: ATK +5%, ATK +3% when equipped to a weapon

Oritius: ATK +9%, HP natural recovery -20%

Dorry: Atk 6% rate cut -10% Additional ATK +6% and melee +300 if on Armor

Ganei: ATK +10%, MaxHP -30%, MaxHP +30% when equipped to a special equipment ( negates the - Max HP % effect)

Abilities:

☆ Attack: (ATK +3, Max HP -1%, ATK Increases by 2n Per Tier, Max HP Decrease by 1% Per Tier)

☆ HP: (HP +280, Increases by +160 Per Tier)

☆ Vitality: (VIT +1 Per Tier)

☆ Strength: (STR +1 Per Tier)

☆ Dexterity: (DEX +1 Per Tier)

☆Item Delay☆

Armors:

Saltus Up: ATK +2%, MaxHP +10%, MaxMP +5%, magic resistance +5%, HP natural recovery +30%, (hidden correction: Item delay -1 second)

Licht Armor: Melee Resistance +5% Magic Resistance +5%, Delay -0.5 second, Skill delay cut chance by defense, DEF and MDEF up based on Lv (DEF increase= Lv x 0.5, MDEF increase = Lv x 1.2)

Chainmail Re Up: MaxHP +10%, MaxMP +10%, HP Natural Recovery +20%, Item Delay -0.5 second

Amartier: ATK +8%, Magic R +5%, Delay -0.5 second, Range cut +12%

Weapons:

Fake Craft (Throwing): Critical Damage +8%, MATK +8%, Item Delay -0.5 second, Twice attack chance

Sauro Blade (Sword): STR+3 VIT+3, Item Delay -1 second

Sauro Blade L2 (Sword): STR+4, VIT+4, Item Delay -1 second

Le Feu (Bow): VIT+5, Item Delay -1 second, poison effect + 10%

Celtis Bow: ATK + 15%, Accuracy +10%, hate rise + 10%, Item Delay -0.5 second

Additional Gear:

Day Pack: Item recovery +10%, Item Delay -0.5 second

Travel Pouch: STR+2, INT+2, +5% HP recovery, +5% Physical resistance, Item Delay -1 second

Montel Colliet: ASPD + 10% cast time case of -10% Lv240 or more, and further delay -1 second

Special Equipment:

Charm of Bamboo: Item Delay -0.5 seconds, Max HP -15%

Crystas:

Item DT: Item Delay -0.2 second, Skill Delay +0.4 second

Rossam: MP consumption -20%, Item Delay -0.1 second

Eldas: Item & skill delay -0.3 second, +5% earth resistance

Abilities:

☆ Quick Use: (Item Delay -0.6 seconds, -5% item recovery, Adds 1% item recovery per Tier negating the minus effect)

☆Skill Delay☆

Armors:

Exelis Re Up: ATK +3%, MATK +3%, Evasion +10%, Magic Resistance +12%, Skill Delay -1.5 seconds

Ultimi: MATK +6%, CRT up, Delay -0.5 Seconds, Melee +100, Accuracy +50, Absolute Evasion +5%

Licht Armor: Melee Resistance +5% Magic Resistance +5%, Delay -0.5 seconds, Skill delay cut chance by defense, DEF and MDEF up based on Lv (DEF increase= Lv x 0.5, MDEF increase = Lv x 1.2)

Weapons:

Fuma Shuriken Up (Throwing): MATK +6%, skill delay -0.5 seconds, critical rate +30, cast time -10%, fire, wind magic power +2%

Moonlight (Bow): ATK +5%, ASPD -100%, MP Cost -25%, Skill Delay -1 Second, Accuracy Rate +5%

Illusion (Bow): ATK +10%, skill delay -0.5 seconds, absolute hit +5%, magic around +5%

Additional Gear:

Barbarotita: ATK +5%, Accuracy rate -25%, Skill Delay -0.5 seconds

Wolf Ears: Hate Rise +20%, Heal reward +500, Rate cut +15%, Skill Delay -0.5 seconds

Scalpello: Skill Delay -0.5 seconds, ATK +7%

Montel Colliet: ASPD + 10% cast time case of -10% Lv240 or more, and further delay -1 seconds

Special Equipment:

Wisdom Ring: Skill Delay -0.5 seconds, +30% Mp Consumption

Crystas:

Skill DT: Skill Delay -0.2 seconds, Item Delay +0.4 seconds

Metalbrow: Skill Delay -0.6 seconds, -10% ATK, -10% MATK

Abilities:

☆Quick Cool: (Skill Delay -0.6 seconds, MATK -5%, ATK -5%) (Adds ATK +1%, MATK +1% Per Tier increase negating the minus effect)

☆Resistance☆

Armors:

Licht Armor: Melee Resistance +5%, Magic Resistance +5%, Delay -0.5 seconds, Skill delay cut chance by defense, DEF and MDEF up based on Lv (DEF increase= Lv x 0.5, MDEF increase = Lv x 1.2)

Laminated Mail: Melee Resistance +4%, Rate Relief +10%, VIT +5, Max HP +6% (Hidden stat damage reduction by defense, exactly like Plate Armor)

Plate Armor Up: VIT +3, during physical tolerance + 5% defense, damage reduction in probability (※ the damage reduction in the probability at the time of defense)

Weapons:

Wound Transer (Special Sword): Max HP +15%, Reflect +5%, DEF up by DEX

Ama no Habikiri (Special Sword): MDEF up by level, Magic Resistance +5%, if lvl 139> Counter Attack chance when defending

Additional Gear:

Gem Shield: ASPD -10%, MATK -12%, Magic R +6%, Counter (Holy Light) Chance by Defense

Granvia Shield: ATK +6%, Rate cut +10%, Range cut +10%, KO Time -0.5 seconds

Grim Shield: MaxMP +10%, Magic Resistance +10%, during the defense, the probability in the physical counterattack available

Idealsol: Max HP +20%, Melee R +5%, Fire R -20%, Damage cut chance by defense DEF up based on Lv

Cuirass: VIT+3, INT+3, Additional Effect with Licht Armor (Rate cut ??% increase)

Edel Hood Up: INT +6, DEX +8, MP consumption -5%, MDEF up by VIT, decrease available at INT

Carmo Hood: VIT +7, CRT +6, Accuracy Rate +10%, DEF up by INT, MDEF up by VIT

Special Equipment:

Scholar Ring: If VIT> 199 Magic Resistance +10%, If INT>199 Melee Resistance +10%

Mirage Stone: Damage Cut by using MP (50 MP, triggers 100% every time you are hit by the mob/boss), Unavailable if MP is not enough (<50 MP)

Douin's Feathers: Melee Resistance +5%, Magic Resistance +3%, Heal Reward +10%

Fortitude Ring: Melee Resistance +5%, Magic Resistance + 5%, Rate relief + 5%, HP is suffer more than 25 percent and HP recovery available

Crystas:

Azimov: Effect: in proportion probability that HP is also receiving the maximum HP more damage remains 1 to generate maximum HP increased probability ※ equipped place of auto skills will disappear.

DEF +5%: DEF increase by 5%

INT +5: INT stat increase by +5

VIT +5: VIT stat increase by +5

Vasaria: Water Resistance +5%, Accuracy +80, Critical Rate +5

Specia: All Damage Reduction +3%, Natural Recovery +30%

Stormia: Wind Resistance +5%, Evasion +40, Absolute Evasion +1%

Flammel: Fire Resistance +5%, ASPD +10%, Cast Time -10%

Eldas: Earth Resistance +5%, Item Delay -0.3 seconds, Skill delay -0.3 seconds

Daemon: No tolerance +5%, physical resistance +1%, magic resistance +1%

Abilities:

☆Rate Cut: (Rate Cut +1% per Tier)

☆Melee Defense: (DEF +10 Per Tier)

☆Magic Defense: (MDEF +30 Per Tier)

☆Fire Blessing: (Fire Resistance +1% Per Tier)

☆Water Blessing: (Water Resistance +1% Per Tier)

☆Earth Blessing: (Earth Resistance +1% Per Tier)

☆Wind Blessing: (Wind Resistance +1% Per Tier)

☆Light Blessing: (Light Resistance +1% Per Tier)

☆Darkness Blessing: (Dark Resistance +1% Per Tier)

☆Vitality: (VIT +1 Per Tier)

☆Intelligence: (INT +1 Per Tier)

Leveling Guide

Here I will explain to you the methods of how most of us paladins leveled from 140-270 via exp quests or through hardcore grinding. Feel free to select whichever methods are easier and more of your preference.

Grinding:

Megaroche [160+]

Location:
Mubele Pass

Attribute:
Water

Exp Gain (Non-Ticket) Solo-wise:
149-151K Experience

These are one of the high HP mobs where everyone grinds usually. I wouldn't recommend soloing these as they have high hp, and you will end up burning up alot of pots. Exp within a 4 man party will probably be cut down to 60-80K Experience, but even so its good exp if you don't like doing Exp quests. I'd recommend doing this if you like to party up with people, which you should be doing since you are a pally anyways xD. This will feel slow early on in my opinion since megaroche are always crowded with players . Use wind element weapons like sinbad or have an enchanter cast wind origin on you if you'd like to deal more guardian damage due to elemental advantage.

High Ent [160+]

Location:
Magonza's Fortress

Attribute:
Fire

Exp Gain (Non Ticket) Solo-wise:
37K Experience

This is another fairly high Hp mob you will find everyone grinding usually now. Since these mobs don't have as high hp as megaroche, I would recommend trying to solo these since they are fairly easy to kill. In a 4 man party your exp will probably be cut down to around 10-25K at the minimum, but because they are easy to kill it may be faster rather than to do megaroche. However this area is crowded as well but the spawn rate for high ents are faster than megaroche. Use fire elemental weapons to increase your guardian damage such as Dragon roar due to elemental advantage or have an enchanter cast fire origin on you.

Balor [160+]

Location:
Halib Marshlands

Attribute:
Water

Exp Gain (Non Ticket) Solo-Wise:
98-101K Experience

This is one of the high HP mobs you may find some people grinding usually. I wouldn't recommend soloing these as they have higher HP than high ents, so you will end up burning through alot of pots to kill one, although they don't have as high hp as a megaroche. In a 4 man party you will gain around 45-60K experience. This area isn't as crowded as Megaroche or High ents, so it would be good if you can manage to form a party here as Balors spawn on all floors of this dungeon. Use wind elemental weapons like Sinbad to increase your guardian damage against these mobs due to elemental advantage or have an enchanter cast wind orgin on you.

Amikiri [140+]

Location:
Eccentric's Manor

Attribute:
Dark

Exp Gain (Non Ticket) Solo-Wise:
4.8-4.9K Experience

These are one of the low level mobs you will find early on to grind till you have guardian. These mobs have really low hp so I would recommend soloing these if you are below 160 and want to work your way up to getting guardian. To top it all off these mobs are dark element, meaning that you can abuse them with gloria buff (yay xD) and spam hard hit or holy thrust against them. I would strongly recommend to level with these mobs if you don't enjoy doing exp quests.

Quests:

Snake in the Maze [120+]

Location:
Maze of Enzeits

NPC:
Shekto

Quest Objective:
Kill X99 Nagas or X30 Nagas depending on which you pick

Quest Reward:
Naga × 30: Experience 120K, Revita L × 1
Naga × 99: Experience 410K, Revita L × 2 or Magic Jar (cold) × 1

Shekto will give you two choices to pick from when you pick up the quest to either slay x30 Nagas or x99 Nagas. This quest was a way of how some of us got to 160 without killing megas, it's slow at first but in due time you'll reach it with dedication. Naga's element is dark, so you'll be able to do extra damage if you use gloria buff, which is really reliable should you want to abuse elemental advantage mobs when grinding. Solo-wise the exp gain is pretty good as well, you get 4154 experience roughly from Nagas, The quest turn in reward gives you 410K Experience if you kill x99 Nagas or 120K Experience if you kill x30 Nagas.

Dirty Gears [240+]

Location:
Pilaneza City

NPC:
Mueldo

Quest Objective:
Collect X10 Dirty gears or X5 Dirty gears depending on which you pick

Quest Reward:
X10 Dirty gears: Experience 720K, Revita XL × 6
X5 Dirty gears: Experience 380K, Big Whetstone × 5

Dirty gears quest is pretty much what everyone does nowadays. The only problem with this quest is that it requires you to get the uncommon drops from nommars. This may involve a couple hours worth of grinding if you are looking to get around 5-6 stacks of dirty gears, which is really good in the long run as you get 720K exp for just turning in x10 dirty gears. Nommars have high hp so it may take you time if you are solo grinding these, I wouldn't recommend soloing though as you will burn through alot of pots. Forming parties here would be quick and easy, you could even level here at Lv 160, but you won't be able to do the quest till Lv 240. The element of nommars are fire, so using water element weapons or having an enchanter with origin would really help your guardian damage against these mobs.

Makeshift Armor [170+]

Location:
Dielrolt: The Inner Depths

NPC:
Ulde

Quest Objective:
Collect X90 Hard Armor Pieces and (optional) kill Zimov

Quest Reward:
Experience 450K If Zimov is killed, If not 290K

Ulde will provide you a quest if you talk to her, you can find her at Zimov's boss map. The element for these mobs are Dark, so you'll have an elemental advantage with gloria buff which should make killing them easier. This quest is pretty easy if you can't find bishops and killing Tigris' are pretty easy solo-wise, the only problem is you'll find yourself using hp pots or resting a bit after spamming guardian for so much. For every x90 hard armor pieces you turn in to Ulde, you will receive 290K experience considering that you don't kill zimov every time and just want to turn in all of the hard armor pieces without hassle but if you do kill zimov every time when turning in the hard armor pieces you will receive 450K experience.

Credit List

To those who have helped or contributed in some way to this thread, thank you:
- diddlydoodoo
- Jeancarlo
- Famine
- Mahouko
- MiLiGRiTo

Last Edit: Apr 7, 2015 12:50:50 GMT by Deleted

diddlydoodoo Member	Pein's Paladin Guide! [Editing] Feb 19, 2015 7:12:11 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by diddlydoodoo on Feb 19, 2015 7:12:11 GMT I was going to say something then my eyes read that it was just for an HP set. So good job!

Jeancarlo Member	Pein's Paladin Guide! [Editing] Feb 19, 2015 16:56:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 19, 2015 16:56:37 GMT SD armor should include Lich? Since it has -.5 and another -.5 on proc?

diddlydoodoo Member	Pein's Paladin Guide! [Editing] Feb 19, 2015 17:22:14 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by diddlydoodoo on Feb 19, 2015 17:22:14 GMT I'd agree. Exelis is also missing the skill delay portion in the description.

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Feb 19, 2015 16:56:37 GMT Jeancarlo said:

SD armor should include Lich? Since it has -.5 and another -.5 on proc?

I intend to place this armor within a resistance set, but yeah i'll consider it for delay too xD still working on this so thanks for the notif, i should know its delay lol since i use one haha

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Feb 19, 2015 17:48:30 GMT pein said:

Feb 19, 2015 17:46:36 GMT caporal said:

how about attack gear

Working on it xD the guide is still in progress so i'll get working on it as soon as possible hehe ^^)/ thanks for the suggestion tho

Still learning this myself, but wouldn't your HP set be your ATK set higher (highest) level, since a lot of your dmg will come from Guardian and a lot of its dmg is from your HP?

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Feb 19, 2015 17:55:04 GMT Jeancarlo said:

Feb 19, 2015 17:48:30 GMT pein said:

Working on it xD the guide is still in progress so i'll get working on it as soon as possible hehe ^^)/ thanks for the suggestion tho

Still learning this myself, but wouldn't your HP set be your ATK set higher (highest) level, since a lot of your dmg will come from Guardian and a lot of its dmg is from your HP?

Based off the guardian formula (thanks to miligrito for working this out)

Guardian Lv2: (Current HP x 0.09) + ((((ATK - mobDEF) x 4) + (yourLvL - enemyLvL) + STR value + Weapon ATK value + RGN) x (1 x elemental bonus%))

HP does give more attack due to the fact that having 100k+ HP will simply out damage an ATK set, ATK has a higher effect however on being constant (times 4 compared to HP which is times 0.09) the higher your attack the more constant your guardian damage will be compared to being purely HP only. Guardian has a 2% HP recoil per every use of it so the more your hp decreases the less amount of output you will dish out with your guardian.

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Feb 19, 2015 17:55:04 GMT Jeancarlo said:

Feb 19, 2015 17:48:30 GMT pein said:

Working on it xD the guide is still in progress so i'll get working on it as soon as possible hehe ^^)/ thanks for the suggestion tho

Still learning this myself, but wouldn't your HP set be your ATK set higher (highest) level, since a lot of your dmg will come from Guardian and a lot of its dmg is from your HP?

Not 100% sure. But from my experience it really depends. Guardian gives true damage when using your HP. So an HP set can do more damage than an attack set. But at X point, X being your attack compared to the monsters defense, a pure attack set can outdamage an HP set. High defense monsters -> use HP. Low defense monsters -> use an attack set.

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Feb 19, 2015 17:46:52 GMT pein said:

Feb 19, 2015 16:56:37 GMT Jeancarlo said:

SD armor should include Lich? Since it has -.5 and another -.5 on proc?

I intend to place this armor within a resistance set, but yeah i'll consider it for delay too xD still working on this so thanks for the notif, i should know its delay lol since i use one haha

I'd say throw Licht in the delay set anyways. So after all is said and done you can compare items that fit into multiple catagories and maybe that can lead a person to a better choice.

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Feb 19, 2015 17:47:33 GMT pein said:

Feb 19, 2015 17:24:56 GMT diddlydoodoo said:

And add Duel Shield to the HP set. At least I would.

Thanks for the input, got any idea what the stats are?

Duel Shield
Defense: 12-17 ATK:15, MaxHP +10%, Physical Resistance +10%. When attacking: chance of additional attack.

Main reason being it is a shield that also gives HP which would help for level 240 if you so choose to use it.

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Pein's Paladin Guide! [Editing] Feb 19, 2015 21:37:02 GMT

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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 19, 2015 21:37:02 GMT

Feb 19, 2015 20:21:32 GMT pein said:

Feb 19, 2015 17:55:04 GMT Jeancarlo said:

Still learning this myself, but wouldn't your HP set be your ATK set higher (highest) level, since a lot of your dmg will come from Guardian and a lot of its dmg is from your HP?

Based off the guardian formula (thanks to miligrito for working this out)

Guardian Lv2: (Current HP x 0.09) + ((((ATK - mobDEF) x 4) + (yourLvL - enemyLvL) + STR value + Weapon ATK value + RGN) x (1 x elemental bonus%))

HP does give more attack due to the fact that having 100k+ HP will simply out damage an ATK set, ATK has a higher effect however on being constant (times 4 compared to HP which is times 0.09) the higher your attack the more constant your guardian damage will be compared to being purely HP only. Guardian has a 2% HP recoil per every use of it so the more your hp decreases the less amount of output you will dish out with your guardian.

Feb 19, 2015 20:49:12 GMT diddlydoodoo said:

Feb 19, 2015 17:55:04 GMT Jeancarlo said:

Still learning this myself, but wouldn't your HP set be your ATK set higher (highest) level, since a lot of your dmg will come from Guardian and a lot of its dmg is from your HP?

Not 100% sure. But from my experience it really depends. Guardian gives true damage when using your HP. So an HP set can do more damage than an attack set. But at X point, X being your attack compared to the monsters defense, a pure attack set can outdamage an HP set. High defense monsters -> use HP. Low defense monsters -> use an attack set.

Still learning learning but I was thinking of a 150K HP PLD (and even read about breaking the 200K mark). @ 9%, that's 13,500 dmg that ignores defense. Even without taking off MobDEF, you would need an ATK of 3,375 to even match that. Not sure if that's possible even if a PLD Build + Gear was fully centered on ATK?

Guess Party make up (or lack thereof) comes into play; if you don't have a bish or bish is not topping you off, you don't see max Hp all the time and would alter the dmg numbers.

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