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Post by razziel on Aug 17, 2014 1:29:23 GMT
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Post by godofafro on Aug 17, 2014 2:43:32 GMT
about three more missions till they can shift onto baum warriors in jp
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Koikoi
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is coming back to Iruna ( I think) haha!
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Post by Koikoi on Aug 17, 2014 2:55:56 GMT
♡（ゝ。∂）♥
Wow! Thanks for the insight!
Aw... Guess we still have to date megas for a looong time! Dx
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Aug 17, 2014 3:23:09 GMT
One thing I find surprising is a sniper on solo.
I have solo leveled with my Pally and it does level faster than some of the parties I've been with, the only downside is the pots consumption which is alot since guardian eats 2% of your HP. It actually hurts you more than the mob itself.
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Post by razziel on Aug 17, 2014 3:33:45 GMT
the mob you mentioned dint release yet on jp the lv cap as i know 275 that even when this mob added:
Baum Warrior Lv250 · 251
Drop: wood chips, Revitalizing (large), Orichalcum , ◇ VIT + 6
Special Attack: Poison
Attribute: Earth / weakness: Fire
EXP: 193 200-194711
DEF: 412
HP: 720420 ~ 721120
aggression: passive
if we compare it to megaroches:
Mega Roche Lv200 · 201
Skin of boggy, small leaves, herbs,: drop ring of treatment [special]
special attack: magic
attributes: water / weakness: Wind
EXP: 149600-151 055
DEF: 330
HP: about 527 000
it still show the way of future leveling how to chose the builds and which skill deal more damage and to be honest if you compare both mob xp 150k and 190k i dont find it much unless you solo, the thread i post here warn all iruna players such as hw bishops and glads to focus on huge hp how are we going to level on pts on future the xp compared to mega not much of not to mention this wont be added till lv300+ if your expactaion is 100% right that mob deal poison and has around 700k hp with def around 400+ this should warn non vit builds with no eva specially bishops hws and ideas been mentioned here for future on megas we are going to stuck on megaroche till 290-300+ maybe O.O...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 3:35:56 GMT
facts:
bandit is not available on iruna smarphone. what you see is definitely not bandit. by the look of it, it might be imperial blizzard or imperial hammer.
snipers are not dps. they are damager. differentiate those term.
gladiator with such level get massive skin which elmininate the use of vit. a single massive skin is unbreakable with such high damage. 1 massive skin, 1 kill and repeat.
ench still using nail: well~ cant say much. just weird.
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Post by razziel on Aug 17, 2014 4:50:51 GMT
facts: bandit is not available on iruna smarphone. what you see is definitely not bandit. by the look of it, it might be imperial blizzard or imperial hammer. snipers are not dps. they are damager. differentiate those term. gladiator with such level get massive skin which elmininate the use of vit. a single massive skin is unbreakable with such high damage. 1 massive skin, 1 kill and repeat. ench still using nail: well~ cant say much. just weird. the imperial skill you mentioned you are right fixed it  this got me confuse between jp wiki and iruna blog so they replace it by this one ty for that~ but the sniper i have seen in jp ver kill the megas in seconds which is mean they are great dps class if sniper not would you share with us who? lol the enchanter nail used by many jp players in the game how come we eng version blame them in anyway? |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Aug 17, 2014 5:15:41 GMT
facts: bandit is not available on iruna smarphone. what you see is definitely not bandit. by the look of it, it might be imperial blizzard or imperial hammer. snipers are not dps. they are damager. differentiate those term. gladiator with such level get massive skin which elmininate the use of vit. a single massive skin is unbreakable with such high damage. 1 massive skin, 1 kill and repeat. ench still using nail: well~ cant say much. just weird. the imperial skill you mentioned you are right fixed it this got me confuse between jp wiki and iruna blog so they replace it by this one ty for that~ but the sniper i have seen in jp ver kill the megas in seconds which is mean they are great dps class if sniper not would you share with us who? lol the enchanter nail used by many jp players in the game how come we eng version blame them in anyway? I think JP enchanters use nail because they should naturally be built with max AGI, but really, your melee isn't really the key for the DPS so any weapon is fine, IMO. I've seen that alot of Eng players will go maxASPD AGI, then cover the low evasion with VIT. Honestly, I don't think you need VIT for roches. They require only 600evasion for 80% success, plus Enchanters are INT based so magic damage shouldn't be a problem. The only remaining key is the DPS factor to kill roches fast enough to make solo-ing worthwhile, and I've seen it done so it's not impossible. I have run some tests with my enchanter and plan to solo roches at 160 or at 180 if my DPS at 160 isn't good enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 6:45:11 GMT
facts: bandit is not available on iruna smarphone. what you see is definitely not bandit. by the look of it, it might be imperial blizzard or imperial hammer. snipers are not dps. they are damager. differentiate those term. gladiator with such level get massive skin which elmininate the use of vit. a single massive skin is unbreakable with such high damage. 1 massive skin, 1 kill and repeat. ench still using nail: well~ cant say much. just weird. the imperial skill you mentioned you are right fixed it this got me confuse between jp wiki and iruna blog so they replace it by this one ty for that~ but the sniper i have seen in jp ver kill the megas in seconds which is mean they are great dps class if sniper not would you share with us who? lol the enchanter nail used by many jp players in the game how come we eng version blame them in anyway? both of these skills were in our everyday jp wiki. they are in separated section. just gotta dig deeper. i'm pretty sure the sniper was using rain area. that's considered a damager still. enchanter with nail, nothing to argue. same as assassin dps & skill spammer. some utilize the skill and some just prefer not using it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 7:02:18 GMT
the imperial skill you mentioned you are right fixed it this got me confuse between jp wiki and iruna blog so they replace it by this one ty for that~ but the sniper i have seen in jp ver kill the megas in seconds which is mean they are great dps class if sniper not would you share with us who? lol the enchanter nail used by many jp players in the game how come we eng version blame them in anyway? I think JP enchanters use nail because they should naturally be built with max AGI, but really, your melee isn't really the key for the DPS so any weapon is fine, IMO. I've seen that alot of Eng players will go maxASPD AGI, then cover the low evasion with VIT. Honestly, I don't think you need VIT for roches. They require only 600evasion for 80% success, plus Enchanters are INT based so magic damage shouldn't be a problem. The only remaining key is the DPS factor to kill roches fast enough to make solo-ing worthwhile, and I've seen it done so it's not impossible. I have run some tests with my enchanter and plan to solo roches at 160 or at 180 if my DPS at 160 isn't good enough. nail is a visual candy on megaroches. i can't discuss any further so lets sort enchanters as the one that break barriers and the one that munch through barrier. |
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Post by Ryukengan on Aug 17, 2014 15:14:13 GMT
facts: bandit is not available on iruna smarphone. what you see is definitely not bandit. by the look of it, it might be imperial blizzard or imperial hammer. snipers are not dps. they are damager. differentiate those term. gladiator with such level get massive skin which elmininate the use of vit. a single massive skin is unbreakable with such high damage. 1 massive skin, 1 kill and repeat. ench still using nail: well~ cant say much. just weird. fact: Sniper is a dps class, dps stands for damage per second, Snipers do have high damage per second. A DPS build is not something that attacks fast (like many think it is), a DPS build deals high DPS, the term is much older than Iruna Online. Gladiators with high VIT and Massive Skin can solo most bosses, that's why high VIT is recommended, you can't solo most bosses with only Massive Skin and 1 VIT. Enchanter still using Nail is a comfort build, he drains and kills the mob during his drain, it might be true that a Magic Blade spammer is more powerful but some people may prefer it that way. You should get your facts straight, Sniper is a DPS class, Gladiator needs some VIT at least, Enchanter can use an Auto Attack build if they are lazy and prefer it over spamming a button over and over again. |
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Post by razziel on Aug 17, 2014 18:23:32 GMT
facts: bandit is not available on iruna smarphone. what you see is definitely not bandit. by the look of it, it might be imperial blizzard or imperial hammer. snipers are not dps. they are damager. differentiate those term. gladiator with such level get massive skin which elmininate the use of vit. a single massive skin is unbreakable with such high damage. 1 massive skin, 1 kill and repeat. ench still using nail: well~ cant say much. just weird. fact: Sniper is a dps class, dps stands for damage per second, Snipers do have high damage per second. A DPS build is not something that attacks fast (like many think it is), a DPS build deals high DPS, the term is much older than Iruna Online. Gladiators with high VIT and Massive Skin can solo most bosses, that's why high VIT is recommended, you can't solo most bosses with only Massive Skin and 1 VIT. Enchanter still using Nail is a comfort build, he drains and kills the mob during his drain, it might be true that a Magic Blade spammer is more powerful but some people may prefer it that way. You should get your facts straight, Sniper is a DPS class, Gladiator needs some VIT at least, Enchanter can use an Auto Attack build if they are lazy and prefer it over spamming a button over and over again. what you are trying to say true and just to add some infos here which is maybe helpful i saw 2 enchanter one of them spam skill while the other one use nail but when i see both of them even if the spammer one stronger than nail user you have to spam buttons alot of time making you focus on screen players dont need that if they can skip it just 1 drain and make it do the job and i prefer all mele classes to go for wind elemental weps if it can be done such as swords or nail user diff type of weps the way jp players do this seems for me the best way for mele type to maximize your dmg output now we know some classes wont do that such as special sword user but that is ok paladin for example wont do that, but for fast leveling such as (monk,glads,...) players should doit while others losing time skipping this benefits of elemental weps your word is clear ty~ |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 21:51:49 GMT
facts: bandit is not available on iruna smarphone. what you see is definitely not bandit. by the look of it, it might be imperial blizzard or imperial hammer. snipers are not dps. they are damager. differentiate those term. gladiator with such level get massive skin which elmininate the use of vit. a single massive skin is unbreakable with such high damage. 1 massive skin, 1 kill and repeat. ench still using nail: well~ cant say much. just weird. fact: Sniper is a dps class, dps stands for damage per second, Snipers do have high damage per second. A DPS build is not something that attacks fast (like many think it is), a DPS build deals high DPS, the term is much older than Iruna Online. Gladiators with high VIT and Massive Skin can solo most bosses, that's why high VIT is recommended, you can't solo most bosses with only Massive Skin and 1 VIT. Enchanter still using Nail is a comfort build, he drains and kills the mob during his drain, it might be true that a Magic Blade spammer is more powerful but some people may prefer it that way. You should get your facts straight, Sniper is a DPS class, Gladiator needs some VIT at least, Enchanter can use an Auto Attack build if they are lazy and prefer it over spamming a button over and over again. if you put it that way, everything that drains mp fast will be dps. in this context it is for megaroche. it is true vit for bosses but we are talking about leveling on megaroche build so stick to the topic perhaps? i never complain anything about enchanters. i dont even say its wrong. |
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Post by Ryukengan on Aug 17, 2014 22:47:58 GMT
fact: Sniper is a dps class, dps stands for damage per second, Snipers do have high damage per second. A DPS build is not something that attacks fast (like many think it is), a DPS build deals high DPS, the term is much older than Iruna Online. Gladiators with high VIT and Massive Skin can solo most bosses, that's why high VIT is recommended, you can't solo most bosses with only Massive Skin and 1 VIT. Enchanter still using Nail is a comfort build, he drains and kills the mob during his drain, it might be true that a Magic Blade spammer is more powerful but some people may prefer it that way. You should get your facts straight, Sniper is a DPS class, Gladiator needs some VIT at least, Enchanter can use an Auto Attack build if they are lazy and prefer it over spamming a button over and over again. if you put it that way, everything that drains mp fast will be dps. in this context it is for megaroche. it is true vit for bosses but we are talking about leveling on megaroche build so stick to the topic perhaps? i never complain anything about enchanters. i dont even say its wrong. Minstrel is not a DPS class but drains mp fast, You will also have trouble with Megaroches as a Gladiator if you go with 1 VIT, as soon as you pull 2 you're dead and it will happen often, I speak out of experience. You're saying that a Nail Enchanter is "weird" but it's not weird, it's totally okay if they decide that this is their playstyle you shouldn't call it weird but accept their decision. Pointing out that it's not the optimum build for the highest dps is okay but you are trying to belittle people for their decisions and whenever they share their information you should be glad, share your thoughts but don't think that you're right all the time because I've seen you posting misleading information quite a couple times by now and people read and learn from your posts, so act accordingly. I don't want to see a Gladiator with 1 VIT cursing all the time later on for dying at Megaroche whenever they pull 2 at once, because they would be disappointed then. |
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Post by Koukochiisaki on Aug 17, 2014 23:04:02 GMT
So insightful CX thank you n.n
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