JunJunPow
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Post by JunJunPow on Aug 18, 2014 0:24:41 GMT
if you put it that way, everything that drains mp fast will be dps. in this context it is for megaroche. it is true vit for bosses but we are talking about leveling on megaroche build so stick to the topic perhaps? i never complain anything about enchanters. i dont even say its wrong. Geez every class has a DPS, DPS isn't even a term to describe builds as everyone has it. If you call a cane enchanter a DPS would that mean nail auto attack enchanters aren't? An adventurer whacking once per second at 40 damage per whack has 40 DPS. Don't confuse people on naming classes as "DPS", low or high damage per second is still DPS. And nail enchanters aren't just eye candy, they do in fact kill much faster than your supposed "DPS cane build" (megaroches, sticking to point) tested with 2s amulet vs pramia 1s both slotted with the same MATK crystals, same armor, additional and special equip.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 0:29:10 GMT
if you put it that way, everything that drains mp fast will be dps. in this context it is for megaroche. it is true vit for bosses but we are talking about leveling on megaroche build so stick to the topic perhaps? i never complain anything about enchanters. i dont even say its wrong. Minstrel is not a DPS class but drains mp fast, You will also have trouble with Megaroches as a Gladiator if you go with 1 VIT, as soon as you pull 2 you're dead and it will happen often, I speak out of experience. You're saying that a Nail Enchanter is "weird" but it's not weird, it's totally okay if they decide that this is their playstyle you shouldn't call it weird but accept their decision. Pointing out that it's not the optimum build for the highest dps is okay but you are trying to belittle people for their decisions and whenever they share their information you should be glad, share your thoughts but don't think that you're right all the time because I've seen you posting misleading information quite a couple times by now and people read and learn from your posts, so act accordingly. I don't want to see a Gladiator with 1 VIT cursing all the time later on for dying at Megaroche whenever they pull 2 at once, because they would be disappointed then. weird does not mean what you think. listen to both side before firing. how do you know by weird i mean pramia is useless? sorry but i see self assumption here. by weird i mean they have the skill to spam with both atk-matk in account but pramia still deals more. and that's weird. contain your 8 lines. make it simple. i lost my way half the lines.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 0:30:38 GMT
if you put it that way, everything that drains mp fast will be dps. in this context it is for megaroche. it is true vit for bosses but we are talking about leveling on megaroche build so stick to the topic perhaps? i never complain anything about enchanters. i dont even say its wrong. Geez every class has a DPS, DPS isn't even a term to describe builds as everyone has it. If you call a cane enchanter a DPS would that mean nail auto attack enchanters aren't? An adventurer whacking once per second at 40 damage per whack has 40 DPS. Don't confuse people on naming classes as "DPS", low or high damage per second is still DPS. And nail enchanters aren't just eye candy, they do in fact kill much faster than your supposed "DPS cane build" (megaroches, sticking to point) tested with 2s amulet vs pramia 1s both slotted with the same MATK crystals, same armor, additional and special equip. i did not see the "build" factor in here. also, i'm talking about spam skill & auto attack. cane & claw both auto attack. your comparison is not comparing the differences.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 0:32:05 GMT
someday imma solo roches as a sniper....
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JunJunPow
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Post by JunJunPow on Aug 18, 2014 0:41:28 GMT
i did not see the "build" factor in here. also, i'm talking about spam skill & auto attack. cane & claw both auto attack. your comparison is not comparing the differences. Well you talked so much about your "DPS enchanter auto ATK cane build" on other threads and on here as snipers not being DPS, would you like me to quote em one by one? Spamming skills is equivalent to DPS. If a wiz does 20k EQ per 2 seconds thats 10k DPS. Still discounting skill spammers as DPS? ANYTHING THAT DOES DAMAGE IS DPS. That's why it's called DAMAGE per second not SKILL SPAM per second nor NORMAL atk per second. Simple general logic.
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Post by Ryukengan on Aug 18, 2014 1:23:46 GMT
Minstrel is not a DPS class but drains mp fast, You will also have trouble with Megaroches as a Gladiator if you go with 1 VIT, as soon as you pull 2 you're dead and it will happen often, I speak out of experience. You're saying that a Nail Enchanter is "weird" but it's not weird, it's totally okay if they decide that this is their playstyle you shouldn't call it weird but accept their decision. Pointing out that it's not the optimum build for the highest dps is okay but you are trying to belittle people for their decisions and whenever they share their information you should be glad, share your thoughts but don't think that you're right all the time because I've seen you posting misleading information quite a couple times by now and people read and learn from your posts, so act accordingly. I don't want to see a Gladiator with 1 VIT cursing all the time later on for dying at Megaroche whenever they pull 2 at once, because they would be disappointed then. weird does not mean what you think. listen to both side before firing. how do you know by weird i mean pramia is useless? sorry but i see self assumption here. by weird i mean they have the skill to spam with both atk-matk in account but pramia still deals more. and that's weird. contain your 8 lines. make it simple. i lost my way half the lines. I like how you totally ignored first me disproving your DPS "term", then disproving your 1 VIT Gladiator, then disproving your "everything that burns mp fast can be considered DPS" and try to defend yourself calling the Pramia build weird, even though it isn't since it doesn't seem too strange if there are quite a lot of people using nails. You think I'm being mean towards you, trust me I'm not, I'm just pointing out that you shouldn't spread misleading information. You've also been ignorant to everything I've said, it's okay if you can't stand being wrong but I will say it anyway because I don't want people to get the wrong ideas about the game. I share most of the information I have about the game and if I am wrong I accept it and apologise to the people I've said otherwise. You should try it out too. I'll stop posting about this now because it's not really on topic anymore and I don't feel the need to point out that you're wrong any further.
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reb13
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Post by reb13 on Aug 18, 2014 14:03:21 GMT
A) both stop arguin B) dps has many meaning to it either manage to deal dmg every 1 sec or how umuch dmg is done in a second C) I have not seen syerins information being misleading not ryukengen...both r helpful depend on playstyle D) when syerin means wierd she means that...well auto atk with prima is stronger than spam skill sooo yea thats slightly wierd but no offensento prima E) ryukengen meaning of 1vit means that anyone with 1vit or less would not b able to survive more than 1 mega which is true but it also comes down to equips with 10 vit n proper hp set im able tank 2 megas with a hwiz sooooo yea equips matter as well not just stats F) lez just all close n stop being pizzed at each other^^ THIS POST IS NOT TO DEFEND OR OFFEND ANYONE PLS DO NOT FEEL OFFENDED!!! heres a kittu face for fun ^w^
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Aug 18, 2014 15:42:18 GMT
someday imma solo roches as sniper.... Apparently you can! So go give razziel hugs and kisses for showing you the light at the end of the tunnel.
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Post by razziel on Aug 18, 2014 16:13:26 GMT
A) both stop arguin B) dps has many meaning to it either manage to deal dmg every 1 sec or how umuch dmg is done in a second C) I have not seen syerins information being misleading not ryukengen...both r helpful depend on playstyle D) when syerin means wierd she means that...well auto atk with prima is stronger than spam skill sooo yea thats slightly wierd but no offensento prima E) ryukengen meaning of 1vit means that anyone with 1vit or less would not b able to survive more than 1 mega which is true but it also comes down to equips with 10 vit n proper hp set im able tank 2 megas with a hwiz sooooo yea equips matter as well not just stats F) lez just all close n stop being pizzed at each other^^ THIS POST IS NOT TO DEFEND OR OFFEND ANYONE PLS DO NOT FEEL OFFENDED!!! heres a kittu face for fun ^w^ the thread been post here show the jp players how they play i have never heard of glad low vit no eva can solo 3body mega same as hw or bishop both of them need vit the game turn into solo way of leveling specially hw, bishop,glad, for example a glad plan to make his build as pt play fully dex he will face huge problem leveling later when he need to solo play this is just a another fail idea when syerin said (gladiator with such level get massive skin which elmininate the use of vit) the use of vit effect also the gladiator revita and to solo strong bosses too or ok then make vit 1 and put full dex and solo 3 body at once i would like to see that if it can be done il kill my alt vit following your idea and btw hp set wont be good at all for me its also for others who know this part, hp set good when you plan to solo boss one time or benefits pally gurdian it wont be good at all if you soloing 3body mega at once you may get benefits by gladiator revita but you will suffer alot of dmg you deal by atk xtls etc i didnt post this cuz of best builds of enchanter or anything like that its way of showing how the game been played if you like it or not thats the playstyle of jp players and im one of those players that at least i respect them sense they play the game before us as for ideas they got will i may not follow all they do but i have learned alot of things benefits me on future on how to chose equips builds etc ty for the kit face tho xD
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Post by b2kite on Aug 18, 2014 18:34:35 GMT
Dps=dmg dealt/fight time In mmo we have: tanks, dps, healers and support. And ofc mix of them.
And back to topic... any info about assassins in jp serwers? Its still like "oh u assa... gtfo!" or "bs spam? No? Bye." ?
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Post by razziel on Aug 18, 2014 21:45:20 GMT
Dps=dmg dealt/fight time In mmo we have: tanks, dps, healers and support. And ofc mix of them. And back to topic... any info about assassins in jp serwers? Its still like "oh u assa... gtfo!" or "bs spam? No? Bye." ? you got me in this xD will actually il try update this post to show you more also i will add monks too as soon as i can il post anyone if he ask about something he need to know if i can doit but just before i post and update this thread im gonna tell you from what i see assassins has 2 builds one of them bs build and nail build i didnt want to rush post about assassins cause of im trying to enter server that has imode players and il try check if aoe for assassins is there but in other hand from what i see some low levels like 200_220 spamming bs skill just wait me i wanted to update about monks but you mentioned assassins now so dont worry
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reb13
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Post by reb13 on Aug 18, 2014 22:47:27 GMT
Maybe I should have put a max there xD if I get 3 I will have truble dtain n paryl e.e
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Post by ainfinit on Aug 19, 2014 2:24:14 GMT
Monks can solo level pretty well I really wana see some 275 monks. Btw. Dps is damage per second. You ask people "lfm damager per second" or ask "lfm damager"? Asking what someones "dps" is correct, calling someone a dps is the incorrect way to use the term. Lol. Everyone has dps, not everyone is a damager(referring to damager build of X job).
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Post by womble on Aug 27, 2014 6:03:32 GMT
Dps is Damage per second. A max aspd melee does Two hits in a second. A caster is forced to a 1sec delay minimum.
By caster i mean anyone using any skill or ability. You cannot re use that skill inside 1 second.
If someone hits 30k per swing and does two of those thats 60k dps. If you cast a thors for 60k you are equal in dps.
The difference is the thors can probably one shot the mob while it takes those two swings to ko the mob the lthe guy. Visually? Thors seems faster. Actuality: theyre equal
The enchanters using claws vs the ones spammin skill are a playstyle difference. Claw allows passive fore and forget yawn grind. Cast requires your attention. Sure one can smoke a neknott instantly. The other just binds all shortcuts to attack minus stoneskin or drain on the occasion and reads a book while randomly tapping the screen.
This is also jp. Not eng. how many times has jp been quoted then shot down then idiots trying to qulte jp To eng for how stuff works only to look stupid? Let it come live then discuss it.
Nobody considered glads as str crt vit or magic ninjas remember. Or even a samu with vit. Was lol remember?
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Post by matrixans on Sept 2, 2014 20:26:17 GMT
facts: bandit is not available on iruna smarphone. what you see is definitely not bandit. by the look of it, it might be imperial blizzard or imperial hammer. snipers are not dps. they are damager. differentiate those term. gladiator with such level get massive skin which elmininate the use of vit. a single massive skin is unbreakable with such high damage. 1 massive skin, 1 kill and repeat. ench still using nail: well~ cant say much. just weird. My hunter with AR Sniper build can do mora than 1 AR per second so I think it is dps :3 ( lv80 only)
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