badeko
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down w the army of darkness!!
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Post by badeko on Aug 28, 2014 16:42:14 GMT
Thats gd knw. But hey an enchant that could proc on his own proc would be a dream come true x.x
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Aug 28, 2014 16:45:23 GMT
Yeah other classes will blame you for all the lag you caused by 100000 x proc per strike. Theyll say: stop using chanters dammit. You know theyre bugged.
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badeko
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down w the army of darkness!!
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Post by badeko on Aug 28, 2014 16:53:15 GMT
Lol thats like calln someone a speed hacker when they a minstrel on the low buffin them!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 19:21:09 GMT
I'm sorry but I am really confused x.x I was okay up until syerin's comment.
So badeko said this: "Anyways when I had my meme's in my 2s pknife. There wud be times were I see x2 venom attacks (rarely at same time)"
So this what I think I know??? You can stack the memecoleous xtals, but you can not stack the gilgobble xtal. Gilgobble xtal only allows you to learn double attack Lv1 (I believe a common mistake is that stacking gilgobble xtals will increase the probability of getting a double attack) In other words, having more than 1 gilgobble makes no difference whatsoever. Having two memecoleous, however, will work because it adds venom to an attack.
And then syerin says: "i have gilgoble in my dia espada way before it is used by enchanters. regret it. manawave never proc since that day. extracted and sold for 8m."
So I'm guessing that the Gilgobble xtal will not work for enchanters because of the skill Enchant. If anyone would like to clarify that would be great @-@
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badeko
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down w the army of darkness!!
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Post by badeko on Aug 28, 2014 19:47:18 GMT
I think the confusion is in the wording of the xtals. If it doesnt say consume autoskill, it does not consume it. Now if it says u learn it I wud think it doesnt stack because u cant leearn something twice. Im pretty sure iit shud activate along side with dia's manawave. Maybe the rate was too low for seyrin to see it happen.
Now realistically. Gilgob isnt worth it for ench. We use int dex etc not str which x2 atk is base off right?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 20:10:51 GMT
I think the confusion is in the wording of the xtals. If it doesnt say consume autoskill, it does not consume it. Now if it says u learn it I wud think it doesnt stack because u cant leearn something twice. Im pretty sure iit shud activate along side with dia's manawave. Maybe the rate was too low for seyrin to see it happen. Now realistically. Gilgob isnt worth it for ench. We use int dex etc not str which x2 atk is base off right? Could it be that double attack only applies to physical attacking? Anyways, Double Attack Lv1 just triggers an attack that is 1.2x your regular physical damage.
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aroxis
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Post by aroxis on Aug 29, 2014 1:33:35 GMT
I think the confusion is in the wording of the xtals. If it doesnt say consume autoskill, it does not consume it. Now if it says u learn it I wud think it doesnt stack because u cant leearn something twice. Im pretty sure iit shud activate along side with dia's manawave. Maybe the rate was too low for seyrin to see it happen. Now realistically. Gilgob isnt worth it for ench. We use int dex etc not str which x2 atk is base off right? Syerin used to be a crit ench. But anyways from what syerin said, gillgobble xtal should have "consume autoskill" in description but the xtal list and eng wiki says it doesn't have it....Did we mess up description or did asobimo? o.0
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Aug 29, 2014 1:52:10 GMT
I think the confusion is in the wording of the xtals. If it doesnt say consume autoskill, it does not consume it. Now if it says u learn it I wud think it doesnt stack because u cant leearn something twice. Im pretty sure iit shud activate along side with dia's manawave. Maybe the rate was too low for seyrin to see it happen. Now realistically. Gilgob isnt worth it for ench. We use int dex etc not str which x2 atk is base off right? Syerin used to be a crit ench. But anyways from what syerin said, gillgobble xtal should have "consume autoskill" in description but the xtal list and eng wiki says it doesn't have it....Did we mess up description or did asobimo? o.0 It might be a bug. AFAIK, consume autoskill will never remove Enchant weapon. If gilgo consumes autoskill, and you put it in Dia, Dia's manawave will never proc, but Enchant weapon should. By description, Enchant weapon says: "Put magic on a weapon", but this is misleading because it doesn't really buff your weapon. You use enchant weapon on your Dia and switch to Pramia and Enchant weapon will still proc, because the buff is on you.
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Post by sencka on Sept 1, 2014 5:47:45 GMT
thanks :3 for this i able to use weapon:dia fg , sinbad fg , fake craft fg armor:iron up kaise pliz , dpr up shojo add.gear: ciel kaise pliz spec: r bangle , s bangle & lotus seed :3 all my spec is ns xD cause im broke lol .. is this ok ?
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Post by sencka on Sept 1, 2014 5:49:20 GMT
and what is memes skill .. should i choose sofys xtal ? what is the damage of sofys xtal i want to replace it in my ciel . and get hp abi in sword or special equipment :3
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Post by crazybrker on Sept 1, 2014 9:30:39 GMT
Back to the OP, that is a good set that you have. FG is the best if you want to keep it cheap. Sofy is light magical counter, so you have to get hit for it to trigger. Hits for about 5k against mega. People say that it's damage is based off hp, so it would depend on your build. If you have any agi at all then I'd recommend ifrit xtal over sofy for fire magical attack on attack. Hope that answers your question we all kinda went off somewhere else on this topic. Oh and that meme xtal casts some venom attack that poisons the enemy, that's all I know about that
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Post by sencka on Sept 1, 2014 11:31:51 GMT
should i choose ifrit? xD how much ifrit then and i want to change all my xtals in dpr from shojo to moldus dia from fg to dunkelis xD i think its the best hehe.. and ifrit idk what is the stats if ifrit though i see many plyers selling it that much x.x
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Post by crazybrker on Sept 1, 2014 13:11:52 GMT
Ifrit is going for 20-25m recently. It casts fire spear on attack. You lose out on MATK+% but gain an extra hit. Mine hits megaroches for 4k and I have 2 so far, aiming to get one more. So 3 x 4k would be an easy 12k plus your enchant or other gear autoskills. Up you if you choose many autoskills or go all MATK and hope for 1 massive autoskill boosted by your MATK+%.
So: 4 Ifrit @4k each= 16k damage vs 1 enchant @16k = 16k damage
^ Just examples, but you can decide what fits you best.
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Post by sencka on Sept 1, 2014 20:37:32 GMT
im using autoskill abi lv5 though it gives super spam skill: D and kill mega in 1-2 mins i think
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Post by sencka on Sept 1, 2014 20:38:41 GMT
so should i choose matk xtals instead of skill xtals???
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