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Post by Ryukengan on Sept 1, 2014 20:48:33 GMT
Ifrit is going for 20-25m recently. It casts fire spear on attack. You lose out on MATK+% but gain an extra hit. Mine hits megaroches for 4k and I have 2 so far, aiming to get one more. So 3 x 4k would be an easy 12k plus your enchant or other gear autoskills. Up you if you choose many autoskills or go all MATK and hope for 1 massive autoskill boosted by your MATK+%. So: 4 Ifrit @4k each= 16k damage vs 1 enchant @16k = 16k damage ^ Just examples, but you can decide what fits you best. Or you could min/max the damage by using Ifrit xtals, where you cannot get your hands on great MATK boosting xtals, and place MATK xtals in equipment you can get lots of MATK from (e.g. Gerust), thus maximising your damage potential.. |
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badeko
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Post by badeko on Sept 2, 2014 1:12:51 GMT
If u use gerust wudnt that make out s.skin 1sec slower to cast?
I mean the benefits are good but that 1sec extra to cast can be tremendous especially when fighting bosses that are strong and fast enough to hit thru an entire skin worth of buff..
Anyone care to settle my nerves on that xtal? Does any1 using gerust feel a big difference in the cast speed?
Speakn on ifrit I switchd my aulis gale off to doggy ears since it carries a decent amount if everythin im lookn for and doesnt have an autoskill so it consumes nothin(eat air sucka)
Since my dodge buff is gone, ive switchd my dia to sinbad3(memecoleous) (doesnt eat autoskill either) ive noticed alot more eva w doggy the aulis and my damage is getting a little more stabler. Wud b a dream to have sinbad 2s to put a moldus in it w the meme, I actually do about 980 every x2 secs when boss is posiond w my t.garb equipd ^.^
to answer that last question about weather or not to het autos or matk xtals. Id say find a nice mix of the two that ur comfortable =) I like moldus nowadays becuz of the xtal matj due to dex
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Sept 2, 2014 1:48:13 GMT
If u use gerust wudnt that make out s.skin 1sec slower to cast? I mean the benefits are good but that 1sec extra to cast can be tremendous especially when fighting bosses that are strong and fast enough to hit thru an entire skin worth of buff.. Anyone care to settle my nerves on that xtal? Does any1 using gerust feel a big difference in the cast speed? Speakn on ifrit I switchd my aulis gale off to doggy ears since it carries a decent amount if everythin im lookn for and doesnt have an autoskill so it consumes nothin(eat air sucka) Since my dodge buff is gone, ive switchd my dia to sinbad3(memecoleous) (doesnt eat autoskill either) ive noticed alot more eva w doggy the aulis and my damage is getting a little more stabler. Wud b a dream to have sinbad 2s to put a moldus in it w the meme, I actually do about 980 every x2 secs when boss is posiond w my t.garb equipd ^.^ to answer that last question about weather or not to het autos or matk xtals. Id say find a nice mix of the two that ur comfortable =) I like moldus nowadays becuz of the xtal matj due to dex I use gerust. 1 second is definitely significant. I switch weapons when I buff or use spell boost. You will just have to choose between more cooldown vs more MP cost for lesser MATK or no penalty for even lesser MATK. Or since you are not using a 2s weapon, why not just have them all to be able to use as per needed. I just picked Gerust on my 2s amulet because I use it for soloing megas (for best DPS potential), I don't need to spam skills anyway. I may need to change it when I get stoneskin, but I'll cross the bridge when I get there. BTW, moldus double effect is only when equipped to armor per my knowledge, so you wouldn't want to put it on a sinbad. |
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aroxis
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Post by aroxis on Sept 2, 2014 1:52:08 GMT
If u use gerust wudnt that make out s.skin 1sec slower to cast? I mean the benefits are good but that 1sec extra to cast can be tremendous especially when fighting bosses that are strong and fast enough to hit thru an entire skin worth of buff.. Anyone care to settle my nerves on that xtal? Does any1 using gerust feel a big difference in the cast speed? Speakn on ifrit I switchd my aulis gale off to doggy ears since it carries a decent amount if everythin im lookn for and doesnt have an autoskill so it consumes nothin(eat air sucka) Since my dodge buff is gone, ive switchd my dia to sinbad3(memecoleous) (doesnt eat autoskill either) ive noticed alot more eva w doggy the aulis and my damage is getting a little more stabler. Wud b a dream to have sinbad 2s to put a moldus in it w the meme, I actually do about 980 every x2 secs when boss is posiond w my t.garb equipd ^.^ to answer that last question about weather or not to het autos or matk xtals. Id say find a nice mix of the two that ur comfortable =) I like moldus nowadays becuz of the xtal matj due to dex Using gerust does significantly slow you down but not really too much, although each second counts, it really isnt too bad for enchanter. What i use is. Dia espada+9/gerust Fuma+8/spellboost Dpr/shojo Ciel/fg or Aulis gale/kaiser when soloing harder bosses. Now with this set up my magic attack is always at 2.6k since fuma makes it extremely easy to cast spellboost and buff myself and since i set both of my weps to shortcut i just switch to fuma to buff/cast sb/mp and hp heal and switch back to dia in a few seconds. By doing this Gerust xtal never causes problems for me  But also seeing how I havent really been playing iruna since early june my eqqips are SUPER outdated, these were the top eqqipments back in ze day  When I get back i plan to switch to.. Pramia/gerust Fuma/spellboost That new throwing that gives matk+8%/beezltor Levathin/beezltor Dpr/moldus Ultimi/iffrit Mir symbol/dunkelis I was thinking about whether i should put iffirt in add gear and restat to 200 dex or keep it this way but idk .-. which would you prefer cuz i hav problems with indecision x^x Anyways I tbh dont think you would enjoy using gerust because you dont seem to care about maximising your dps too much. |
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Post by crazybrker on Sept 2, 2014 12:44:55 GMT
My looking at it, is that most people have 4 xtal slots.
If ifrit does 4k base damage and you use Gerust(20%) Moldus (14%) and Mezza(15%) for your other slots for a total + ~50% MATK then your 1 ifrit can do 6k damage. I'm sure there are other factor like enemy mdef and pierce...
But if instead you just use 2 ifrit you already double your damage 2 x 4k. Same goes for 4 ifrit. I'd rather have the +400% with ifrit than +50% with those 3 expensive xtals.
In all honesty, I do balance it out with 1 gerust and 3 ifrit and I am happy. When you go against bosses you need higher MATK to penetrate so it would be nice to have both sets and swap it out when needed.
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badeko
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Post by badeko on Sept 2, 2014 15:43:54 GMT
Using more then one ifrit may sound like a good idea but in battle application I think it would fail. W.o a decent amount of matk ifrit will jus do 1dmg cux it cnt priece thru the bosses mdef
Thoses matk xtals u said along w one ifrit would, imo, do alot better becauze when ur buffed up ur dmg is increased along w ur ifirts dmg. Jus straight up ifrit xtals u jus proc firelance a bunch of times ,they dont accumulate dmg all together in one.
Is it really better to have all xtal that jus procs firelance? What if u face water mob x.x
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Sept 2, 2014 15:49:13 GMT
Using more then one ifrit may sound like a good idea bt in battle application I think it would fail. W.o a decent amount of matk ifrit will jus do 1dmg cux it cnt priece thru the bosses mdef Thoses matk xtals u said along w one ifrit would, imo, do alot better becauze when ur buffed up ur dmg is increased along w ur ifirts dmg. Jus straight up ifrit xtals u jus proc firelance a bunch of times ,they dont accumulate dmg all together in one. Is it really better to have all xtal that jus procs firelance? What if u face water mob x.x Mega Is water mob and I do 9k x4 +around 6k enchant. not sure how origin will affect my dmg but Ill get there eventually. Slowly leveling now at 155. |
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badeko
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Post by badeko on Sept 2, 2014 16:31:33 GMT
Definitely let me knw hw it goes for u. If u need a origin buff for testn let me knw ill pt buff u :-)
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aroxis
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Post by aroxis on Sept 3, 2014 3:28:32 GMT
Using more then one ifrit may sound like a good idea bt in battle application I think it would fail. W.o a decent amount of matk ifrit will jus do 1dmg cux it cnt priece thru the bosses mdef Thoses matk xtals u said along w one ifrit would, imo, do alot better becauze when ur buffed up ur dmg is increased along w ur ifirts dmg. Jus straight up ifrit xtals u jus proc firelance a bunch of times ,they dont accumulate dmg all together in one. Is it really better to have all xtal that jus procs firelance? What if u face water mob x.x Mega Is water mob and I do 9k x4 +around 6k enchant. not sure how origin will affect my dmg but Ill get there eventually. Slowly leveling now at 155. Hmm how mny iffrit u use and what type of eqq u use it on? |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Sept 3, 2014 5:23:59 GMT
Hmm how mny iffrit u use and what type of eqq u use it on? Sword amulet+9 2slot Ifrit, gerust dpr up Ifrit mir Ifrit lotus seed Ifrit When enchanters start to realize that enchanters should use enchanter gears and xtals, instead of wizard gears, the prices of these In the market might change. |
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aroxis
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Post by aroxis on Sept 3, 2014 5:33:53 GMT
Hmm how mny iffrit u use and what type of eqq u use it on? Sword amulet+9 2slot Ifrit, gerust dpr up Ifrit mir Ifrit lotus seed Ifrit When enchanters start to realize that enchanters should use enchanter gears and xtals, instead of wizard gears, the prices of these In the market might change. Ah now is using a random spc eqq w\iffrit better than using r.bangle? |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Sept 3, 2014 6:53:22 GMT
Sword amulet+9 2slot Ifrit, gerust dpr up Ifrit mir Ifrit lotus seed Ifrit When enchanters start to realize that enchanters should use enchanter gears and xtals, instead of wizard gears, the prices of these In the market might change. Ah now is using a random spc eqq w\iffrit better than using r.bangle? That remains debatable for me. my Initial tests are premature to conclude. |
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Post by crazybrker on Sept 3, 2014 7:36:25 GMT
I vote yes, Dragonnewt Ifrit > Reduce. If you really want reduce's effects then you can try Empedracle. Attack speed buff stays triggered ~100% of the time also give you an attack and dodge buff too. The dodge stacks with Aulis too giving me 1290 eva. =)
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Post by sencka on Sept 4, 2014 3:55:36 GMT
hello i already bought gerust, moldus and ifrit xD.. i put ifrit to my ciel and all i can is wow.. it triggers like mana wave of ciel and dia.. im looking fkrward to get r bagle and put mezza on it xD
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Sept 4, 2014 4:45:09 GMT
hello i already bought gerust, moldus and ifrit xD.. i put ifrit to my ciel and all i can is wow.. it triggers like mana wave of ciel and dia.. im looking fkrward to get r bagle and put mezza on it xD Ifrit will consume Ciel's autoskill. |
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