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Oct 12, 2020 10:04:58 GMT
Post by wafu on Oct 12, 2020 10:04:58 GMT
whats better for zero cmoon 2 sauII or condense rod sauII ?
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rod
Oct 12, 2020 13:38:37 GMT
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Post by Aza on Oct 12, 2020 13:38:37 GMT
Condense rod has -ko duration that will kill zero's stun duration. Damage-wise, it's probably equal, because spellbook 2s with high neutral magic is lost against c.moon 2s with small margin. You have to get a 2s Condense to have same dmg as 2s c.moon.
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Oct 19, 2020 21:24:01 GMT
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Post by ishayel on Oct 19, 2020 21:24:01 GMT
If you have already 10k+ matk, spellbook 2s is the best, you outdmg crescent moon 2s by a lot lol. (25% neutral magic beats 27% matk). With 14k matk (with none of the 2 rods) :
Spellbook 2s up to 1.7m zero Crescent scent 2s up to 1.4m zero
Easy to explain why, matk % adds to matk% you already have, and matk% only applied to base matk. Neutral magic applies to dmg ( so a bit like if applies to your whole matk)
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blackmoon
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Oct 20, 2020 18:26:36 GMT
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Post by blackmoon on Oct 20, 2020 18:26:36 GMT
In my case, Spellbook5+9@292 vs c.moon+9@309 both clean, s.book win by 10-20k.
Next S.book5+9@292 sau2+mezza vs uni3+9@317mezza Err... Can't see the dmg difference by much. So, i sold s.book outrage full of disappointment. Lol With my CRT only 100 i hve to use uni3, that +20%Hp, well...
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Oct 21, 2020 14:49:05 GMT
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Post by Undyne on Oct 21, 2020 14:49:05 GMT
So, Christmas has come early for Hw this year! (In JP that is).
I'd recommend checking out the new Halloween equips listed in the Iruna-Info thread.
For those who don't want to check there:
Guiding Rod [Cane] ATK: 316 ; DEF: 9 MATK+16%, Magic Pierce +14% Zero Ray Slv+1, Zero Ray Power +10%
Elder cast is an additional from an Item exchange which gives Skill Delay-1 sec, Phantom and Bandersnatch Level+1.
*Random and doesn't tie into this but Al from an item exchange with Matk+7%, Auto-5%, Skill delay-.3 sec.
To put this in perspective, if you have 22k Matk with Universe, you'd lose about 700-1,000 Matk when full buffed. *All of these assume Spellburst with Assault buff.
Current formula: Matk×10 With 22k Matk: 1,155,000 If Formula is Matk×12 with new rod: With 21k Matk:1,430,000 If Formula is Matk×15 with new Rod: With 21k Matk:1,850,000
And this is ignoring Bandersnatch Lv2. It's unknown at this time whether the assault buffs Neutral Magic% will increase, but if it does... even more damage. A truly capped/2s hw may actually hit 3m+ with pt support.
Just some of my thoughts. Let's hope they give us the new Halloween event next week so this can be tested and used soon.
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Oct 21, 2020 18:44:47 GMT
Post by senoragi on Oct 21, 2020 18:44:47 GMT
So, Cristmas has come early for Hw this year! (In JP that is). I'd recommend checking out the new Halloween equips listed in the Iruna-Info thread. For those who don't want to check there: Guiding Rod [Cane] ATK: 316 ; DEF: 9 MATK+16%, Magic Pierce +14% Zero Ray Slv+1, Zero Ray Power +10% Elder cast is an additional from an Item exchange which gives Skill Delay-1 sec, Phantom and Bandersnatch Level+1. *Random and doesn't tie into this but Al from an item exchange with Matk+7%, Auto-5%, Skill delay-.3 sec. To put this in perspective, if you have 22k Matk with Universe, you'd lose about 700-1,000 Matk when full buffed. *All of these assume Spellburst with Assault buff. Current formula: Matk×10 With 22k Matk: 1,155,000 If Formula is Matk×12 with new rod: With 21k Matk:1,430,000 If Formula is Matk×15 with new Rod: With 21k Matk:1,850,000 And this is ignoring Bandersnatch Lv2. It's unknown at this time whether the assault buffs Neutral Magic% will increase, but if it does... even more damage. A truly capped/2s hw may actually hit 3m+ with pt support. Just some of my thoughts. Let's hope they give us the new Halloween event next week so this can be tested and used soon. oh yeah, our time to fly. and what about that neutral auto xtal? is it neutral attack chance by atk or by def? maybe bander can increase it... hehehe for fun only
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wafu
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Post by wafu on Oct 28, 2020 10:14:23 GMT
so any test?
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Oct 28, 2020 10:30:46 GMT
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Post by blackmoon on Oct 28, 2020 10:30:46 GMT
Waiting for some videos,zero2 'n bander2 😅😅
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Post by senoragi on Oct 28, 2020 11:07:48 GMT
Waiting for some videos,zero2 'n bander2 😅😅 bander lv2 give more matk than 1 and more neutral magic too, also 6sec asssault instead 5. i think it give matk+20% and neutral magic+400% now.
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Oct 28, 2020 13:37:49 GMT
Post by senoragi on Oct 28, 2020 13:37:49 GMT
Waiting for some videos,zero2 'n bander2 😅😅 hw autoskill..Lian auto dnt have low dmg for hw, it can delt 430k for my hw using bander lv2. lmao. '' High Enchanter '':v
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Post by senoragi on Oct 28, 2020 13:42:25 GMT
Waiting for some videos,zero2 'n bander2 😅😅 using 4 lian u can hit 300k per auto, just focus on auto%. the High wizard can hit at the same speed as the Enchanter during the combo, sniper overclock, monk rush etc using imperial ray's buff defense. and it’s also very easy to have 100% spell burst with hw. use 4 lian and you will give close to 300k for auto 100% spell burst. lol: v also pt with servant cuz aura espada have 300 -400k dmg too.
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Oct 31, 2020 9:00:47 GMT
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Post by Aza on Oct 31, 2020 9:00:47 GMT
My comments on ◇Lian: In solo boss farm against Veleno it's really hard to juggle all the skills and pots at the same time. My skill sequence is as follow:
Use resist set> drain, t.bolt, Imperial, t.bolt again, spellboost, bander (keep doing this until successful)
Switch to lian set>auto-atk.
I usually proc 2×200k auto dmg per hit. Rarely proc 3 to 4. With dual blow, it's 800k per hit. I use t.knife, struggler, doggy ears and sbs. Full auto abi.
While using lian set, Veleno thunderbolt always deals lethal dmg. Mirage get debuffed easily because Veleno hit often. I currently have 20k+ HP (200VIT) and 256AGI. Pots are really helpful. But, when I got paralysis and my HP is low, death is imminent.
Now to compare with zero ray. Tbh I have easier time using zero ray to kill Veleno, because Zero ray stun, and I don't have to worry of paralysis. Also, I have more resistance on zero set. The dmg on zero ray is a little bit less, my first zr only deals 790k ish. But because zero ray playstyle is considerably more simple, zero ray dps is better than Lian set at veleno.
In conclusion, for me Lian set is not efficient on solo farm. Might be better if I have paladin/beast knight/gladi to tank. Also, I think I need more VIT..absolute/magic evasion is not so useful if it's low. So far I don't think there's decent equipment with magic evasion that also adds autoskill rate% 🤔 I was thinking of using Mirror rod AG but I'm too scared of it's lack of resistance. Even when using throat knife and strug, Veleno already capable to 1-shot me.
--------- About guiding rod... I was wrong, guiding is the best for hw. Only if you pt with minstrel. Using full mpc abi+taenia might work too. So far I only tried taenia+mpc5, sb5432 abi and that's not enough, after 2 zr I only have 100-ish mp left.
My best zero ray dmg is 2.1m..that's with only 1s equips and pt buff from bish, mins and necro plus dizzy. With ignition and blue candy probably can reach 2.5m.
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wafu
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Oct 31, 2020 14:56:42 GMT
Post by wafu on Oct 31, 2020 14:56:42 GMT
whats ur zero dmg on self buff? w/o and w spell boost
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Post by Pixie on Oct 31, 2020 19:27:30 GMT
My comments on ◇Lian: In solo boss farm against Veleno it's really hard to juggle all the skills and pots at the same time. My skill sequence is as follow: Use resist set> drain, t.bolt, Imperial, t.bolt again, spellboost, bander (keep doing this until successful) Switch to lian set>auto-atk. I usually proc 2×200k auto dmg per hit. Rarely proc 3 to 4. With dual blow, it's 800k per hit. I use t.knife, struggler, doggy ears and sbs. Full auto abi. While using lian set, Veleno thunderbolt always deals lethal dmg. Mirage get debuffed easily because Veleno hit often. I currently have 20k+ HP (200VIT) and 256AGI. Pots are really helpful. But, when I got paralysis and my HP is low, death is imminent. Now to compare with zero ray. Tbh I have easier time using zero ray to kill Veleno, because Zero ray stun, and I don't have to worry of paralysis. Also, I have more resistance on zero set. The dmg on zero ray is a little bit less, my first zr only deals 790k ish. But because zero ray playstyle is considerably more simple, zero ray dps is better than Lian set at veleno. In conclusion, for me Lian set is not efficient on solo farm. Might be better if I have paladin/beast knight/gladi to tank. Also, I think I need more VIT..absolute/magic evasion is not so useful if it's low. So far I don't think there's decent equipment with magic evasion that also adds autoskill rate% 🤔 I was thinking of using Mirror rod AG but I'm too scared of it's lack of resistance. Even when using throat knife and strug, Veleno already capable to 1-shot me. --------- About guiding rod... I was wrong, guiding is the best for hw. Only if you pt with minstrel. Using full mpc abi+taenia might work too. So far I only tried taenia+mpc5, sb5432 abi and that's not enough, after 2 zr I only have 100-ish mp left. My best zero ray dmg is 2.1m..that's with only 1s equips and pt buff from bish, mins and necro plus dizzy. With ignition and blue candy probably can reach 2.5m. Sounds like u need a servant tank to make things easier.
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Nov 7, 2020 10:47:39 GMT
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Post by ishayel on Nov 7, 2020 10:47:39 GMT
Eldercast is nice. Guiding rod is just a fake up. There is better staffs that do same burst dmg and some with highest dps. Tested solo and even crescent 2s beat guiding rod. With condense rod, i do same burst dmg on my zero, and bonus, i can do up to 3 in a row. Even if dmg down after first zero, dps a lot better and safier. Been low mp vs some bosses dangerous. Doing 1 mp charge or more if you have too much mp, slow a lot your dps.
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