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Post by Altorm on Nov 9, 2017 15:41:48 GMT
Bishops, ninjas and high wizards are broken and need a good fixing. Though these are like 95% (I'm assuming) of the entire Iruna population. How is High Wizard Broken?
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Post by areika on Nov 9, 2017 15:46:48 GMT
I think that thing of balancing classes is something good and fair, because classes like Monk even with Hyper-Expensive "Pro" equipment have a lot less damage compared to other Op classes like HW, Ninja, Assassin, and, monk doesn't have AOE. And it's really unfair that other classes like Bishop, Servant, Minstrel, etc. are practically useless fighting by themselves compared to many classes, even using Op equipment Those delay a long time killing any boss, meanwhile Op classes can 1 Hit kill Raton. Monk don't have AOE? Then you must be playing a different game. They have an Ambient AOE that draws mobs in and they have a PT AOE to finish them. Lion Roar and Geo Breaker. That is why there is a solo and pt build. Claw monks are usually solo build and throw are primarily geo spammers so they tend to pt since the build lacks survivability. However they DO have WOE skills.
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Post by Kijimu Party on Nov 9, 2017 15:47:33 GMT
Bishops, ninjas and high wizards are broken and need a good fixing. Though these are like 95% (I'm assuming) of the entire Iruna population. How is High Wizard Broken? I think he means that HW Zero Ray is too Over-Powered. 600-700k dmg is too insane to be spamming 3-4x in a row.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 9, 2017 15:49:04 GMT
But Hw need cast time is it? Also hw has survival problem and fail chance at bander even with grigori is it?
In term of dps, I dont think Hw too Op since many class in Iruna can do dps as good as Hw (sin with sicarius constant 500k-800k dps (each second) for 10 sec, Sk with 600k-1m per sec before re clone, ench that can do 300k-500k (even up to 1m) per auto attack which faster to do dps than spamming skills).
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Post by areika on Nov 9, 2017 15:50:20 GMT
Only reason why I suggest bish need some limitation in their ressu because ppl enigma that all boss in iruna can be beaten as long they had ressu in pt. So, either asobimo add boss that has revival debuff or make ressu only work against instant kill or over MaxHp damage, servant will never get place in Pt. there is a boss that debuffs resu. Wyn. Faced her in a pt on my bish and she debuffed everything randomly including my resu and I hadn't been hit. So there you go, a boss that debuffs resu.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 9, 2017 15:52:25 GMT
Only reason why I suggest bish need some limitation in their ressu because ppl enigma that all boss in iruna can be beaten as long they had ressu in pt. So, either asobimo add boss that has revival debuff or make ressu only work against instant kill or over MaxHp damage, servant will never get place in Pt. there is a boss that rebuffs resu. Wyn. Faced her in a pt on my bish and she rebuffed everything randomly including my resu and I hadn't been hit. So there you go, a boss that rebuffs resu. Nice info o.o/. Sadly only wyn which easy to kill and her drop not luctrative (except her crysta) x.x. I hope many boss like her.
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Post by Altorm on Nov 9, 2017 15:54:51 GMT
How is High Wizard Broken? I think he means that HW Zero Ray is too Over-Powered. 600-700k dmg is too insane to be spamming 3-4x in a row. It's not over powered what's over powered is the HP of the new bosses And what, you want a Nerf?
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Post by Altorm on Nov 9, 2017 15:56:07 GMT
Plus no class is broken, they all have drawbacks, people just complain to much.
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Post by areika on Nov 9, 2017 15:59:48 GMT
there is a boss that rebuffs resu. Wyn. Faced her in a pt on my bish and she rebuffed everything randomly including my resu and I hadn't been hit. So there you go, a boss that rebuffs resu. Nice info o.o/. Sadly only wyn which easy to kill and her drop not luctrative (except her crysta) x.x. I hope many boss like her. not easy to kill? for me she's evil and needs to just shoo x.x I don't like the debuts cause then I end up with more aggro than the tank trying to reset them xD she killed me half a dozen times easy in 1 fight. irritating little brat -.- then again no boss is bish fr8endly so I just hate bosses xD
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Post by areika on Nov 9, 2017 16:01:00 GMT
Nice info o.o/. Sadly only wyn which easy to kill and her drop not luctrative (except her crysta) x.x. I hope many boss like her. not easy to kill? for me she's evil and needs to just shoo x.x I don't like the debuffs cause then I end up with more aggro than the tank trying to reset them xD she killed me half a dozen times easy in 1 fight. irritating little brat -.- then again no boss is bish friendly so I just hate bosses xD
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 9, 2017 16:03:53 GMT
areika So wyn is bish hater haha. Anyway its good thing since Iruna will be balanced if there are any boss that one class will be harder to beat (Larkas in my enchanter case xD).
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Post by rizen on Nov 9, 2017 16:09:45 GMT
I think they are pertaining to classes that are somehow left alone in the solo field/unpopular. ie. Glad,bk,alch,paly(tank),necro?,sniper(boss farming) Ench is somehow catching up to party setup. Ps:I've experienced it myself. Pps:Please dont hate me. Im only relaying my opinion.
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Post by arslan on Nov 9, 2017 16:14:42 GMT
Plus no class is broken, they all have drawbacks, people just complain to much. But that doesn't make classes balance
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Post by klint on Nov 9, 2017 16:34:37 GMT
And suddenly I got myself excited. I fear that players will complain too much specially those who will have the downgrades. For a total balancing it is really worth for me, And if this will bring back the feeling when I started iruna then its really something to be contented with.
And if things get confusing, then it is fun again to figure and learn it out as how we started the game.
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Post by asteg on Nov 9, 2017 16:56:19 GMT
If they make people do lower dmg all the snobs will quit so that's good
Honestly the classes don't need balance, all of em have ups and downs party capability wise, but no one wants to put effort into adjustments to opinion or parties, like servant is amazing, but no res so bishop steals all the pts, bks are amazing at dps and tanking but no one wants to play with a newish class that can't do millions of dmg, no one wants sin cuz it's squishy, no one likes alch cuz no one's that amazing at it, far to much work, u need high lvl prod, constant farming, and bag spaces for days
Sk took away pt spots for tanks and normal ninjas, no one picks gladi over sk and pally doesn't get much love nowadays
Early mqs are actually funny because I've seen 2 or 3 groups of 4 asking for pts or help,
So again, some classes are unarguablly better then others at certain things but the people just suck
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