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Post by 401 on Nov 9, 2017 17:00:43 GMT
But Hw need cast time is it? Also hw has survival problem and fail chance at bander even with grigori is it? In term of dps, I dont think Hw too Op since many class in Iruna can do dps as good as Hw (sin with sicarius constant 500k-800k dps (each second) for 10 sec, Sk with 600k-1m per sec before re clone, ench that can do 300k-500k (even up to 1m) per auto attack which faster to do dps than spamming skills). when bander fail they still can switch to resist set (with some spina they can capped 95% magic/melee resist at same level defense with tanker) give tanker exclusive right to have capped melee and magic resist so in party not only healer+attacker+(singer), like you say before "make tanker great again!"
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Post by Makina Yuki on Nov 9, 2017 17:12:11 GMT
Thats why I said make tank good again since many ppl missunderstand about tank definition. Tanking is attract hate and survive at same time. Hw cannot attract hate constantly (unless sh which meh ._.) since their skills had cast time. Ppl always asking my sk to tank at s400 which not sk role. Main reason why ppl using sk & hw as tank because most boss in iruna can be beat by meta party (hw bish sk mins). I hope they adjust hate system, so current meta party will harder to do high level boss since they cant attract constantly (and attack support class first like mamonea does xD). Also I hope auto attack class (monk, samu, ench) can attract hate better than pure dps class and warrior branch class is best hate attractor .
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Post by Done~with~forums on Nov 9, 2017 17:16:49 GMT
I have seen bishop do 300k to 3 eyes that is op af support class my butt granted it will do 20-30k on boss but still 300k is a crap ton
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Nov 9, 2017 17:22:58 GMT
I think that thing of balancing classes is something good and fair, because classes like Monk even with Hyper-Expensive "Pro" equipment have a lot less damage compared to other Op classes like HW, Ninja, Assassin, and, monk doesn't have AOE. And it's really unfair that other classes like Bishop, Servant, Minstrel, etc. are practically useless fighting by themselves compared to many classes, even using Op equipment Those delay a long time killing any boss, meanwhile Op classes can 1 Hit kill Raton. Monk don't have AOE? Then you must be playing a different game. They have an Ambient AOE that draws mobs in and they have a PT AOE to finish them. Lion Roar and Geo Breaker. That is why there is a solo and pt build. Claw monks are usually solo build and throw are primarily geo spammers so they tend to pt since the build lacks survivability. However they DO have WOE skills. I think you are the one who don't knows monk and Iruna, do you have noticed how weak is Lion Roar? Do you think with being Full Claw user (Based on skills this build is the "orignal" build) you can spam Geo Breaker faster and stronger like other AOE? Geo isn't like Earthquake, Nemesis, Sweep Broom, Pilar Blade, Etc. Those skills hit enemies in a determinated area, Geo doesn't, it hits only already targeted enemies, and how you should know, it's weak compared to other skills.
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Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Nov 9, 2017 17:28:14 GMT
I have seen bishop do 300k to 3 eyes that is op af support class my butt granted it will do 20-30k on boss but still 300k is a crap ton That's a bit true, but other classes can do same or higher damage both to Bosses and Mobs.
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Post by pingrek on Nov 9, 2017 17:28:53 GMT
Monk don't have AOE? Then you must be playing a different game. They have an Ambient AOE that draws mobs in and they have a PT AOE to finish them. Lion Roar and Geo Breaker. That is why there is a solo and pt build. Claw monks are usually solo build and throw are primarily geo spammers so they tend to pt since the build lacks survivability. However they DO have WOE skills. I think you are the one who don't knows monk and Iruna, do you have noticed how weak is Lion Roar? Do you think with being Full Claw user (Based on skills this build is the "orignal" build) you can spam Geo Breaker faster and stronger like other AOE? Geo isn't like Earthquake, Nemesis, Sweep Broom, Pilar Blade, Etc. Those skills hit enemies in a determinated area, Geo doesn't, it hits only already targeted enemies, and how you should know, it's weak compared to other skills. Geobreaker can still do good damage against enemies that aren't stunned or frozen, but if the enemy has one of those two ailments then geo is a lot better than most other aoe skills, but like you said the drawback is it only hits already targeted enemies, the lion roar geo combo can be used to kill close together weak mobs quicker, but a solo geo can possibly inflict stun on a single target through bash but it's only about a 20% chance I think so it then forces the geo into a pt for aoe that can inflict freeze or stun to increase the power greatly
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Post by Magic Sheep on Nov 9, 2017 17:30:26 GMT
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Post by Done~with~forums on Nov 9, 2017 17:47:28 GMT
I have seen bishop do 300k to 3 eyes that is op af support class my butt granted it will do 20-30k on boss but still 300k is a crap ton That's a bit true, but other classes can do same or higher damage both to Bosses and Mobs. 300k aoe and spamable more so if u sh is crazy a hw has to earth>element>imp to get more dmg or earth>bander>imp
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Post by Kijimu Party on Nov 9, 2017 17:48:48 GMT
Maybe balancing probably has more to do with duels. In Iruna JP you can PVP.
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Post by Magic Sheep on Nov 9, 2017 18:05:29 GMT
in real life u can too
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Post by Yazmat on Nov 9, 2017 18:55:06 GMT
Maybe balancing probably has more to do with duels. In Iruna JP you can PVP. Hein?! Do you mean i-mode?
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Post by asteg on Nov 9, 2017 19:07:27 GMT
Yeah but you don't get arrested in Iruna, even if u could the gms wouldn't do anything that requires effort
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Post by NightBreeze on Nov 9, 2017 20:30:29 GMT
"Balance", huh? If they're gonna decrease everybody's damage, they better nerf mobs & bosses too or increase the normal drop rate and exp gain significantly. I'm just hoping these upcoming changes won't decrease my enjoyment of playing Iruna. But they might even give the game a new breath of life, who knows
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Post by nic123 on Nov 9, 2017 21:33:26 GMT
..... nerf my hw?... they better not make it a crazy drop...... Im curious to see how they will pull all of this off while keeping players happy, i think ill wait for the update before i make any complaints but atm im not liking the sound of this
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Post by nic123 on Nov 9, 2017 21:36:42 GMT
And for all u people saying things like hw is "op" Im a leve, 350 hw, with good gear and maxed apos I grinded for months if not years for that and i think i deserve to be able to oneshot the weaker old bosses, ive seen gladis, sins, samus basically all classes that are gen 1 classes, (not alchemist and bk etc) solo raton and almas and bosses of the sort, we cant just say they are unloved by asobimo, the fact u dont get pted is bcuz of the community, anyway lets just wait and see
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