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Post by pingrek on Jul 21, 2017 5:07:46 GMT
Here's what I use: Ouvel Sauro II Enina Muscle Valtia For equips I have Bellow Telon ☆QU3 Monty Telon ☆QU5 Shield Accessory ☆QU4 Adamantite Arrows Telon ☆QU2 Weapons (all with elemental crystas - for some reason they deal more damage) ☆QU1 Plandra Scorpia Dragon Paler Halios White Savior Ninigi Bercrete Aurumteus Fressia White Fox Golden Kite Sturm Hellfire Vatendeth Utility I use: Gandiva Oritius no abi Symbios Oritius no abi I don't worry about skill delay, it gets offset by my 400 Dex. don't you think celtis iii will be better for bow build? Not really, elements play a big part in damage since chances are you are already dealing good damage and since elements are calculated after atk multiplication they work better
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Post by blazer on Jul 21, 2017 5:28:47 GMT
don't you think celtis iii will be better for bow build? Not really, elements play a big part in damage since chances are you are already dealing good damage and since elements are calculated after atk multiplication they work better I don't really know how elements work but compared to ur elemental bows celtis have double atk so are you saying elements make more than double of normal damage?
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Post by (0_0) on Jul 21, 2017 6:45:46 GMT
Not really, elements play a big part in damage since chances are you are already dealing good damage and since elements are calculated after atk multiplication they work better I don't really know how elements work but compared to ur elemental bows celtis have double atk so are you saying elements make more than double of normal damage? that double attack only apply when you're auto attacking. It won't activate if you're using/spamming skill.
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Post by blazer on Jul 21, 2017 8:00:42 GMT
I don't really know how elements work but compared to ur elemental bows celtis have double atk so are you saying elements make more than double of normal damage? that double attack only apply when you're auto attacking. It won't activate if you're using/spamming skill. i didn't mean double attack..what i was saying is elemental bows mentioned above have atk% around 10-11% and celtis have atk 21%.so even then if elemental bows outmatch celtis means it was to do more than double the normal damage
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Post by (0_0) on Jul 21, 2017 8:11:42 GMT
that double attack only apply when you're auto attacking. It won't activate if you're using/spamming skill. i didn't mean double attack..what i was saying is elemental bows mentioned above have atk% around 10-11% and celtis have atk 21%.so even then if elemental bows outmatch celtis means it was to do more than double the normal damage oh lol. Well, thats because elemental weapons deal 20% more damage to the element they are strong against. The damage are also calculated differently so 20% elemental damage does not equal to atk+20%
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Post by blazer on Jul 21, 2017 8:17:10 GMT
i didn't mean double attack..what i was saying is elemental bows mentioned above have atk% around 10-11% and celtis have atk 21%.so even then if elemental bows outmatch celtis means it was to do more than double the normal damage oh lol. Well, thats because elemental weapons deal 20% more damage to the element they are strong against. The damage are also calculated differently so 20% elemental damage does not equal to atk+20% oh only 20% more?then i think celtis will be way better.
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Post by (0_0) on Jul 21, 2017 8:28:00 GMT
oh lol. Well, thats because elemental weapons deal 20% more damage to the element they are strong against. The damage are also calculated differently so 20% elemental damage does not equal to atk+20% oh only 20% more?then i think celtis will be way better. just wanted to clarify, 20% only for the element part. it does not include the atk% on the weapon yet.
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Post by blazer on Jul 21, 2017 8:48:45 GMT
oh only 20% more?then i think celtis will be way better. just wanted to clarify, 20% only for the element part. it does not include the atk% on the weapon yet. yea you mean 20% of the weopen atk% right?that will only make atk+11% to atk +14% at the max..or is it have any other meaning?
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Post by Yazmat on Jul 21, 2017 8:51:28 GMT
just wanted to clarify, 20% only for the element part. it does not include the atk% on the weapon yet. yea you mean 20% of the weopen atk% right?that will only make atk+11% to atk +14% at the max..or is it have any other meaning? +20% to the final damage, if you do 1m damage with Oath, you will do 1.2m with elemental advantage (it's more complicated than that but that's the idea)
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Post by blazer on Jul 21, 2017 9:33:17 GMT
yea you mean 20% of the weopen atk% right?that will only make atk+11% to atk +14% at the max..or is it have any other meaning? +20% to the final damage, if you do 1m damage with Oath, you will do 1.2m with elemental advantage (it's more complicated than that but that's the idea) that will be nice i think i will have to test it by myself xd
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Post by 9ball on Jul 21, 2017 9:42:59 GMT
hi can i know that buff set also since we use oath set just before last second won't it be telon better than iniliba on body and all other equips too buff set that i use: emp2, licht armor, brave cape up, myrica yes i also put telon on my heinrich too but i put vida on add cuz it cheaper
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 21, 2017 10:14:56 GMT
Here's what I use: Ouvel Sauro II Enina Muscle Valtia For equips I have Bellow Telon ☆QU3 Monty Telon ☆QU5 Shield Accessory ☆QU4 Adamantite Arrows Telon ☆QU2 Weapons (all with elemental crystas - for some reason they deal more damage) ☆QU1 Plandra Scorpia Dragon Paler Halios White Savior Ninigi Bercrete Aurumteus Fressia White Fox Golden Kite Sturm Hellfire Vatendeth Utility I use: Gandiva Oritius no abi Symbios Oritius no abi I don't worry about skill delay, it gets offset by my 400 Dex. don't you think celtis iii will be better for bow build? It's a good utility bow. Better? Maybe. Depends on your play style. Elemental bows for maximum damage.
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Post by blazer on Jul 21, 2017 10:33:17 GMT
hi can i know that buff set also since we use oath set just before last second won't it be telon better than iniliba on body and all other equips too buff set that i use: emp2, licht armor, brave cape up, myrica yes i also put telon on my heinrich too but i put vida on add cuz it cheaper emp for melee buff right?also what are the probability of licht buff and it won't reduce ko time is it?and boo isn't better than Heinrich?also how much is the atk up with licht and brave cap?
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Post by Ryukengan on Jul 21, 2017 10:57:40 GMT
blazer No, because elemental bonus acts as another multiplicator for the formula, it's like IN A VERY SIMPLE FASHION (actually way more complicated): Oath damage formula = (Some calculation formula * ATK=(1 + ATK percentage)) * ( 1 + elemental bonus percentage) You want to incorporate as many multiplicators as possible for your damaging skills because of that. ATK% is one multiplicator, Elemental Advantage is another. Melee Pierce is another.
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Post by blazer on Jul 21, 2017 11:04:19 GMT
blazer No, because elemental bonus acts as another multiplicator for the formula, it's like: Truncated(Oath damage you would deal * (1 + elemental bonus percentage)) You want to incorporate as many multiplicators as possible for your damaging skills because of that. the thing is i found celtis have huge atk percentage+21% and elements are having around 10%atk.so was wondering the extra 10%atk of celtis overdo the elements.it seems we can't say it without testing it my ourself unless anyone tested it already xd
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