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Post by lacs on May 25, 2016 16:11:05 GMT
I read somewhere here of a limit to generated hate, imagine a bar of 100%, when (lets say a pally) attacks first, it causes 3% (all of this as example) and a hw attacks and causes 2% of hate, when pally reaches 100% it can't cause more hate, so hw can keep up on causing hate, when hw reaches 100% too, it starts to steal the hate from pally, that's for what i have felt
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Post by quitted on May 25, 2016 17:31:17 GMT
idk how hate and hate bar is calculated but if non-tankers refuse to manage their hate bar, they may steal aggro from main tanker and end up be suicide attacker or self-heal spammer to own death.
if im a non-tanker class like hwiz,sniper,bihsop etc. i would consider use gentleness ability on equipment or use death chils al xtal. instead of use quick cool and completely ignore negative hate increase-% stat and use only damage booster stats.
people need to wake up and accept that hate bar do matters in party. its not as easy as in solo fight, where hate bar not applied.
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Post by lacs on May 25, 2016 21:51:40 GMT
The problem is that some people don't even know that the hate bar exist, what we all must do is to just understand our roles on a pt, hw need to learn to moderate the speed of their attacks, not just blame the pally and try to make them create a hate +infinite set (as i was told) and just moderate their attacks, and fricking turn off people sh
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 27, 2016 7:47:49 GMT
I read somewhere here of a limit to generated hate, imagine a bar of 100%, when (lets say a pally) attacks first, it causes 3% (all of this as example) and a hw attacks and causes 2% of hate, when pally reaches 100% it can't cause more hate, so hw can keep up on causing hate, when hw reaches 100% too, it starts to steal the hate from pally, that's for what i have felt I feel the same for the hate cap on my few tests with parties using hate gear and without. I assumed hate is capped because I tested that rage force ATK bonus also caps. However, one could say that is not enough to conclude that they both are capped and I would agree, since it is possible that rage force is capped while hate isn't. I thought I could crack it via solo tests and rage force but I was just being short sighted. It's very hard to test with a party to tell for certain, plus people aren't generally interested about hate unless they are playing a tank role so it can be hard to get people to cooperate. I think it is possible to have -100% hate gear by now or maybe have negative hate growth. Just don't know which class would ideally it be useful for.
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Post by maximo24 on May 27, 2016 11:25:47 GMT
Well i test that before and sems agro is really easy to lose base on dmg i party alot times with bs asssigs and a soon bs hit the mob i lost agro even if you are using servant and it cast all the time hate on you you lose hate for a few sec this because the hate bar of assasing get a huge boost since the damg in 1 sec is over 400k vs your guardian spamer 40k-50k
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Post by quitted on May 27, 2016 18:01:26 GMT
hmm overpowered damage fueled by stat release have hidden pitfall, that is its also overboosted your hate generation from your attack. idk when hate bar in party issue will over. i think we need promote video that demonstrate good hate bar management among party members, spread around and let people watch and learn.
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