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Post by SunPatso on Sept 25, 2016 11:54:33 GMT
Assassin's counter passive (Skia) deals the same damage as your normal attack minus melee. It can crit and not crit as well depending on your crit rate. I didn't know that o.o thanks, but what about Echidna's counter?Im not sure about that, but I think it will be the same with Eye Bandage, New High Speed Motor and Shelk's counter.
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Sept 25, 2016 13:18:30 GMT
I didn't know that o.o thanks, but what about Echidna's counter? Shelk and Eye Bandage are both based on your melee, just like sukia. So it might be reason to believe that Echidna is also based on melee damage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 13:23:27 GMT
SunPatso, skeewi, I see I see. Hmm. This is actually interesting o.o. I'd like to see this sin in action XD.
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skeewi
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Post by skeewi on Sept 25, 2016 13:54:16 GMT
SunPatso , skeewi , I see I see. Hmm. This is actually interesting o.o. I'd like to see this sin in action XD. Maniji by itself is a really good weapon. It's not the top damage, but definitely more than enough. Universal element also means that it does +10% to everything except neutral. (In case you wanna try this with a throw wep, Hard Baselard works just as well- if not flat out better against all elements except dark) Now if you have Eye Bandage, Echidna on both weapon and armor, Eye Bandage, New High Speed Motor and Shelk, that's already 5 counters. Add in Sukia and that's 6. Now we add in Hawkeye and Execute. Now we add in Double attack, which is 160% damage, and Deathblow- which even with only 1 mp is still crt damage*3
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 14:53:51 GMT
SunPatso , skeewi , I see I see. Hmm. This is actually interesting o.o. I'd like to see this sin in action XD. Maniji by itself is a really good weapon. It's not the top damage, but definitely more than enough. Universal element also means that it does +10% to everything except neutral. (In case you wanna try this with a throw wep, Hard Baselard works just as well- if not flat out better against all elements except dark) Now if you have Eye Bandage, Echidna on both weapon and armor, Eye Bandage, New High Speed Motor and Shelk, that's already 5 counters. Add in Sukia and that's 6. Now we add in Hawkeye and Execute. Now we add in Double attack, which is 160% damage, and Deathblow- which even with only 1 mp is still crt damage*3 A lot of potential fun *^* will definitely try this when I get back
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Would Echidna be bad if you put it on Eye Bandage?
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mokie
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Post by mokie on Sept 26, 2016 3:33:50 GMT
I just would like to warn that the damage you've seen about 24k with DB is quite low compared to throwing weapon. Assassins have Darkness.
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Post by addictux on Sept 26, 2016 6:39:42 GMT
would this be good as permanent wep and use hcb for leeching?
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Post by addictux on Sept 26, 2016 6:41:17 GMT
I didn't know that o.o thanks, but what about Echidna's counter? Im not sure about that, but I think it will be the same with Eye Bandage, New High Speed Motor and Shelk's counter. high speed motor info and shelk info?.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 8:07:02 GMT
would this be good as permanent wep and use hcb for leeching? I'm afraid I can't answer this since I don't have an assassin XD.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 8:09:04 GMT
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Post by addictux on Sept 26, 2016 8:25:16 GMT
tnx for spec maybe i'll go use high scpeed motor and use maniji. but the person who join my gc says he's using koda 3 and use cerbera xtal idk if all equips are cerbera or only 1 and if only 1 idk which equip xD.
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Post by addictux on Sept 27, 2016 8:41:12 GMT
There really is no two ways about this, but a nail sin is pretty weak. A sin's damage is almost entirely built around backstab, and even were you to make an auto attack sin, a throwing weapon is still just flat out better because of weapon mastery. The biggest thing about sin is that you actually need very little agi to evade stuff. This is because your skills, both passive and active, cause your evasion to absolutely skyrocket. The next problem is how absolutely vital illusion is to a sin. Magic completely ignores evasion and sins have really really low base hp, so a single magical hit can spell death. But since we're on the subject, alright. SunPatso mentioned Maniji deathblow spam, which is a fantastic idea. My next input here is Echidna xtals. Lots and lots of Echidna xtals. echidna on all equips?.
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Post by addictux on Sept 27, 2016 9:02:35 GMT
SunPatso , skeewi , I see I see. Hmm. This is actually interesting o.o. I'd like to see this sin in action XD. Maniji by itself is a really good weapon. It's not the top damage, but definitely more than enough. Universal element also means that it does +10% to everything except neutral. (In case you wanna try this with a throw wep, Hard Baselard works just as well- if not flat out better against all elements except dark) Now if you have Eye Bandage, Echidna on both weapon and armor, Eye Bandage, New High Speed Motor and Shelk, that's already 5 counters. Add in Sukia and that's 6. Now we add in Hawkeye and Execute. Now we add in Double attack, which is 160% damage, and Deathblow- which even with only 1 mp is still crt damage*3 i read all post today and i'll say this might be interesting as of me going nail sin now maybe i'll get 2 set of equips. if using d.claw hcb will mess up double attack i guess i'll use either ceduro or koda however i wonder if maniji will mess up double attack as well?. idea of 1st set is koda/ceduro ziddu, ira up/scwermer up/d.mail up dorry/magonza, eye bandage/aulis gale vida/raton, high speed motor/ror wol. 2nd set same equips but full echidna and spec shelk and about this part "Now we add in Double attack, which is 160% damage, and Deathblow- which even with only 1 mp is still crt damage*3" what do you mean by 160% damage? is it more than normal attack or just normal attack?. sorry kinda stupid at understanding stuff e.e
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Post by addictux on Oct 1, 2016 8:22:36 GMT
so far no more response guess you're all tired of this xD
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 8:40:41 GMT
so far no more response guess you're all tired of this xD Unfortunately my knowledge on assassins and auto attack melee classes is limited so I can't answer your latest questions u.u. I would advice you however to check Warrior, Hunter and Assassin skills because I'm pretty sure what you need is there. Also yes, I think Echidna should be slotted everywhere XD
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