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Post by addictux on Sept 13, 2016 11:11:33 GMT
hi. i'm sure this can be found somewhere on this forum but kinda hard to find what you're looking for and not really exactly what you're looking for. i haven't tried it well i did but only till lvl 60 then delete i forgot reason why. now i've seen some videos on youtube i think their lvl 200+ unsure if experiment or permanent but i gotta say they look awesome. some of the videos says only experiment so ik this forum and wanna ask is there a right build?. some ppl say nail sin sucks and do bs for better dmg and i've seen some post here bs having hard time to lvl. i wanna know more about this before making it i've seen some says stats agi/crt/str=int=dex or crt/agi=str=int=dex etc. . . and can someone say what xtal/ai crysta i shoud use?. if ever you guys gave me the right best nail sin build about sharing better equips to use? i'm not gonna do this for experiment tnx in advance e.e
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Post by Umaru-chan on Sept 13, 2016 11:25:10 GMT
Pretty much build it like a nail ninja... Only thing you will benefit with adding int is through the skill that gives magic eva. I know the title is about nail, but if i were to make an auto attack assassin then i would vote still to use throwing weap
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Post by addictux on Sept 16, 2016 11:08:37 GMT
i've seen a youtube vid can deal 20k+ each hit on yarde though he has ai/xtals i tried this before idk why i deleted it but now with new updates (equips/armor)i'm a lot more interested than i was before. I've seen throw and it seems awesome but at some point it feels squishy.
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Post by addictux on Sept 23, 2016 8:53:12 GMT
Pretty much build it like a nail ninja... Only thing you will benefit with adding int is through the skill that gives magic eva. I know the title is about nail, but if i were to make an auto attack assassin then i would vote still to use throwing weap nope i decided to make nail sin as a lil obsessed with it and the youtube vid has this -AGI (as many as possible for attack,survive with evasion and aspd) -STR (min. 330 for stun effect when Siccarius) -CRIT (min.180 for crit rate and crit dmg) -VIT (min.50 for max Hp and survive) Ouvel,Zazel,Valtia,Muscle,Mamonea,Arick says going autoskill on ai. Dragon's Claw II Ziddu Ira Up/Schwermer Up Dorry/Magonza Bandage Eye/Huge Cherry Blossom Up Vida/Raton Ring of Rush/Ring of Illusion Warrior of Light equips are similar to monk nail.
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Post by SunPatso on Sept 23, 2016 9:17:33 GMT
Then, why not make a nail monk instead?
There are a lot of flaws with this build.
1. Double attack passive will mess with your d claw and hcb's hp absorb chance.
2. You will deal very low damage to high def bosses. Even poisoning wont help since you dont have int/dex.
3. Very low hp, even with 50 vit your hp will just be around 5000 more or less. You are still 1hit. Remember illusion passive gives higher magic evasion with int.
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Post by addictux on Sept 24, 2016 7:15:41 GMT
Then, why not make a nail monk instead? There are a lot of flaws with this build. 1. Double attack passive will mess with your d claw and hcb's hp absorb chance. 2. You will deal very low damage to high def bosses. Even poisoning wont help since you dont have int/dex. 3. Very low hp, even with 50 vit your hp will just be around 5000 more or less. You are still 1hit. Remember illusion passive gives higher magic evasion with int. i forgot he uses elemental nails and xtals so yeah he has many nails armor he got 5 or 4 and add he got a lot as well and 3 spec this is the vid this also seems to be him
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Post by addictux on Sept 24, 2016 7:18:34 GMT
seen this
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Post by SunPatso on Sept 24, 2016 14:29:52 GMT
Well its not bad, i guess?
But a little warning though, backstab assassins already find it hard to get a party from exp grinds or boss farm especially if your damage is not that high. Expect to see your nail assassin to solo most of the time.
Nail assassin is inferior to nail monk and fike ninja (because of atk delay). I suggest to use Javali Bangle or Boost Ring, and use 2Red and 6Purple Lines for more autoskill procs and instead of investing in VIT stat, invest in RD instead.
PS. I like the idea of Maniji and Deathblow spam
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Post by addictux on Sept 25, 2016 7:04:32 GMT
Well its not bad, i guess? But a little warning though, backstab assassins already find it hard to get a party from exp grinds or boss farm especially if your damage is not that high. Expect to see your nail assassin to solo most of the time. Nail assassin is inferior to nail monk and fike ninja (because of atk delay). I suggest to use Javali Bangle or Boost Ring, and use 2Red and 6Purple Lines for more autoskill procs and instead of investing in VIT stat, invest in RD instead. PS. I like the idea of Maniji and Deathblow spam i make a gc about this and someone came and says "you are the only person i found who are interested in nail sin" he said stats are same as ninja and he use koda III cerbera i think it's on wep he use ira he didn't say its xtal but for ira i guess i'll put magonza on it. spec he use eye bandage he didn't say what xtal he use but i guess i'll put raton on it. as of spec maybe i'll use ror wol. and as of to what he said he didn't put any vit he is lvl 178 when i saw him and idk what effect of shadow walk. i suggest him about d.claw and hcb wonder if it would be ok to use it since on the nail bk thread i made using d.claw and hcb seems bad cause of autoskill will cancel double attack?
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Post by addictux on Sept 25, 2016 7:07:17 GMT
i check info of maniji it seems good but what does "All elements" mean? sorry kinda stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 9:48:15 GMT
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Post by skeewi on Sept 25, 2016 11:08:59 GMT
There really is no two ways about this, but a nail sin is pretty weak. A sin's damage is almost entirely built around backstab, and even were you to make an auto attack sin, a throwing weapon is still just flat out better because of weapon mastery. The biggest thing about sin is that you actually need very little agi to evade stuff. This is because your skills, both passive and active, cause your evasion to absolutely skyrocket. The next problem is how absolutely vital illusion is to a sin. Magic completely ignores evasion and sins have really really low base hp, so a single magical hit can spell death. But since we're on the subject, alright. SunPatso mentioned Maniji deathblow spam, which is a fantastic idea. My next input here is Echidna xtals. Lots and lots of Echidna xtals.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 11:30:02 GMT
There really is no two ways about this, but a nail sin is pretty weak. A sin's damage is almost entirely built around backstab, and even were you to make an auto attack sin, a throwing weapon is still just flat out better because of weapon mastery. The biggest thing about sin is that you actually need very little agi to evade stuff. This is because your skills, both passive and active, cause your evasion to absolutely skyrocket. The next problem is how absolutely vital illusion is to a sin. Magic completely ignores evasion and sins have really really low base hp, so a single magical hit can spell death. But since we're on the subject, alright. SunPatso mentioned Maniji deathblow spam, which is a fantastic idea. My next input here is Echidna xtals. Lots and lots of Echidna xtals. *barging in* hiya o.o/ any info on the counter's damage calculation?
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Post by SunPatso on Sept 25, 2016 11:38:29 GMT
There really is no two ways about this, but a nail sin is pretty weak. A sin's damage is almost entirely built around backstab, and even were you to make an auto attack sin, a throwing weapon is still just flat out better because of weapon mastery. The biggest thing about sin is that you actually need very little agi to evade stuff. This is because your skills, both passive and active, cause your evasion to absolutely skyrocket. The next problem is how absolutely vital illusion is to a sin. Magic completely ignores evasion and sins have really really low base hp, so a single magical hit can spell death. But since we're on the subject, alright. SunPatso mentioned Maniji deathblow spam, which is a fantastic idea. My next input here is Echidna xtals. Lots and lots of Echidna xtals. *barging in* hiya o.o/ any info on the counter's damage calculation?Assassin's counter passive (Skia) deals the same damage as your normal attack minus melee. It can crit and not crit as well depending on your crit rate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 11:49:51 GMT
*barging in* hiya o.o/ any info on the counter's damage calculation? Assassin's counter passive (Skia) deals the same damage as your normal attack minus melee. It can crit and not crit as well depending on your crit rate. I didn't know that o.o thanks, but what about Echidna's counter?
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