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Post by Stacy's Mom on Apr 6, 2015 12:20:37 GMT
well, the math here just isn't right unless i'm doing something wrong. using wolf ears up hp+20%  using ushilth mercure (supposedly +19% matk)  i'm only seeing an increase of about 11% (i should have 4400+ matk) |
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Post by _ on Apr 6, 2015 12:35:20 GMT
does your wolf ears have any matk xtal
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Post by frankerz on Apr 6, 2015 15:04:16 GMT
if u hav any other matk%+ gears/xtal than u should remove them then calculate it once again
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 6, 2015 15:06:34 GMT
using wolf ears up hp+20% using ushilth mercure (supposedly +19% matk) i'm only seeing an increase of about 11% (i should have 4400+ matk) It Is computed to your base matk which should be around 2.21k |
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Apr 6, 2015 16:27:00 GMT
using wolf ears up hp+20% using ushilth mercure (supposedly +19% matk) i'm only seeing an increase of about 11% (i should have 4400+ matk) It Is computed to your base matk which should be around 2.21k my base is 1489 i'm using +90%/87% matk from gears (supposedly) *87% without using a rod. using a wooden cane my matk is 1831 dunno if both our maths are wrong since you reached the conclusion my base matk was around 2210 only other affecting factors are my weapon's attack/refinement and dex+12 from my armor/xtal. apparently my lvl is also an affecting factor in the matk equation? cause it went up by 3 when i hit lvl 184, didn't add any points into anything. i'm pretty sure that the % adds to the already existing % |
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Apr 6, 2015 17:38:15 GMT
Thats right. If your a high wiz, lvl increases matk
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Post by Stacy's Mom on Apr 6, 2015 18:16:22 GMT
Thats right. If your a high wiz, lvl increases matk lmao, it's right under rod mastery where nobody really looks at. |
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Post by Crysta| on Apr 6, 2015 20:14:40 GMT
Thats right. If your a high wiz, lvl increases matk I've never experienced this on my high wiz, after Int & dex were max (level 168) the only time I've seen Matk increase is from a new equip or xtal, is it a skill that does this or what am I missing? |
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Post by _ on Apr 6, 2015 20:46:14 GMT
Thats right. If your a high wiz, lvl increases matk I've never experienced this on my high wiz, after Int & dex were max (level 168) the only time I've seen Matk increase is from a new equip or xtal, is it a skill that does this or what am I missing? every level you receive a bonus to each stat, including int and dex, matk based off int and dex so if you get each lv 1 int for example you'll get those points of matk, all classes get a boost to stats every lvl, which is why some ninjas find it hard to clone after a certain lv |
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Post by ManaKhe on Apr 6, 2015 21:12:53 GMT
I've never experienced this on my high wiz, after Int & dex were max (level 168) the only time I've seen Matk increase is from a new equip or xtal, is it a skill that does this or what am I missing? every level you receive a bonus to each stat, including int and dex, matk based off int and dex so if you get each lv 1 int for example you'll get those points of matk, all classes get a boost to stats every lvl, which is why some ninjas find it hard to clone after a certain lv You only get a boost to Hit and EVA when you level. The amount of HP you get is determined by VIT and level. VIT from your stats is of less value than VIT from Equips and Skills/Passive bonuses. INT from equips/skills is also calculated like VIT from equips/skills and gives a bonus based on your level. INT from stats is a flat 4 MP increase each point. Everyone has passive INT and VIT from switching jobs, some just have more than others. EX) Knights and Clerics get higher VIT bonuses than everyone else, same with Samurai. Bishops, Wizards, and Ninjas get really high INT bonuses. Hunters get low amounts of both(like a boss). Some classes also get flat HP bonuses from skills and % HP bonuses as well(mostly Clerics). High Wizard's Rod Mastery skill just increases MATK based on level on top of an MATK % bonus increase. Hence why they have ridiculously high MATK values at higher levels. |
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Post by ManaKhe on Apr 6, 2015 21:18:28 GMT
It Is computed to your base matk which should be around 2.21k my base is 1489 i'm using +90%/87% matk from gears (supposedly) *87% without using a rod. using a wooden cane my matk is 1831 dunno if both our maths are wrong since you reached the conclusion my base matk was around 2210 only other affecting factors are my weapon's attack/refinement and dex+12 from my armor/xtal. apparently my lvl is also an affecting factor in the matk equation? cause it went up by 3 when i hit lvl 184, didn't add any points into anything. i'm pretty sure that the % adds to the already existing % He's talking about your base with the rod you are using. Base MATK is basically what your MATK would be without any % increases. Rod's being fully refined adds a lot of MATK to your base if it's a high ATK one. Throwing does the same thing and Magic Weapons do the same only if you are an Enchanter. Idk how he got 2.21k though xD. I think its a little less. Going from 1831 MATK to about 2150-2200 MATK with a refined weapon sounds about right. |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 6, 2015 23:22:06 GMT
my base is 1489 i'm using +90%/87% matk from gears (supposedly) *87% without using a rod. using a wooden cane my matk is 1831 dunno if both our maths are wrong since you reached the conclusion my base matk was around 2210 only other affecting factors are my weapon's attack/refinement and dex+12 from my armor/xtal. apparently my lvl is also an affecting factor in the matk equation? cause it went up by 3 when i hit lvl 184, didn't add any points into anything. i'm pretty sure that the % adds to the already existing % He's talking about your base with the rod you are using. Base MATK is basically what your MATK would be without any % increases. Rod's being fully refined adds a lot of MATK to your base if it's a high ATK one. Throwing does the same thing and Magic Weapons do the same only if you are an Enchanter. Idk how he got 2.21k though xD. I think its a little less. Going from 1831 MATK to about 2150-2200 MATK with a refined weapon sounds about right. 4149 - 3729 = 420 which Is 19% of 2.21k. |
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Post by Crysta| on Apr 7, 2015 3:44:56 GMT
every level you receive a bonus to each stat, including int and dex, matk based off int and dex so if you get each lv 1 int for example you'll get those points of matk, all classes get a boost to stats every lvl, which is why some ninjas find it hard to clone after a certain lv Could you provide evidence of this? As far as I know the only stats that go up per lvl are: Max Hp, Max Mp, Eva & Hit. This explains why some ninja report it being hard to clone after a certain level. You only get a boost to Hit and EVA when you level. The amount of HP you get is determined by VIT and level. VIT from your stats is of less value than VIT from Equips and Skills/Passive bonuses. INT from equips/skills is also calculated like VIT from equips/skills and gives a bonus based on your level. INT from stats is a flat 4 MP increase each point. Everyone has passive INT and VIT from switching jobs, some just have more than others. EX) Knights and Clerics get higher VIT bonuses than everyone else, same with Samurai. Bishops, Wizards, and Ninjas get really high INT bonuses. Hunters get low amounts of both(like a boss). Some classes also get flat HP bonuses from skills and % HP bonuses as well(mostly Clerics). High Wizard's Rod Mastery skill just increases MATK based on level on top of an MATK % bonus increase. Hence why they have ridiculously high MATK values at higher levels. Why would the High Wizard's Rod Mastery skill be the only one to scale up with character level? If all weapon mastery skills behave this way, my Sniper would gain Atk % bonuses from Bow Mastery as it levels up, which from what I've experienced it does not. |
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Post by _ on Apr 7, 2015 3:46:29 GMT
every level you receive a bonus to each stat, including int and dex, matk based off int and dex so if you get each lv 1 int for example you'll get those points of matk, all classes get a boost to stats every lvl, which is why some ninjas find it hard to clone after a certain lv Could you provide evidence of this? As far as I know the only stats that go up per lvl are: Max Hp, Max Mp, Eva & Hit. This explains why some ninja report it being hard to clone after a certain level. You only get a boost to Hit and EVA when you level. The amount of HP you get is determined by VIT and level. VIT from your stats is of less value than VIT from Equips and Skills/Passive bonuses. INT from equips/skills is also calculated like VIT from equips/skills and gives a bonus based on your level. INT from stats is a flat 4 MP increase each point. Everyone has passive INT and VIT from switching jobs, some just have more than others. EX) Knights and Clerics get higher VIT bonuses than everyone else, same with Samurai. Bishops, Wizards, and Ninjas get really high INT bonuses. Hunters get low amounts of both(like a boss). Some classes also get flat HP bonuses from skills and % HP bonuses as well(mostly Clerics). High Wizard's Rod Mastery skill just increases MATK based on level on top of an MATK % bonus increase. Hence why they have ridiculously high MATK values at higher levels. Why would the High Wizard's Rod Mastery skill be the only one to scale up with character level? If all weapon mastery skills behave this way, my Sniper would gain Atk bonuses from Bow Mastery, which from what I've experienced it does not. when i lvl up ill ss both before and after, I've noticed my matk get higher every lvl PRIOR to adding points |
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Post by Crysta| on Apr 7, 2015 3:54:09 GMT
Could you provide evidence of this? As far as I know the only stats that go up per lvl are: Max Hp, Max Mp, Eva & Hit. This explains why some ninja report it being hard to clone after a certain level. Why would the High Wizard's Rod Mastery skill be the only one to scale up with character level? If all weapon mastery skills behave this way, my Sniper would gain Atk bonuses from Bow Mastery, which from what I've experienced it does not. when i lvl up ill ss both before and after, I've noticed my matk get higher every lvl PRIOR to adding points Shouldn't the other stats increase as well, Dex affects Matk & Cspd, thus if leveling up does increase your Matk, then Cspd would increase per level as well. |
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