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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 12, 2015 1:02:35 GMT
Just keep your fortis up to reduce dmg
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 13, 2015 2:29:15 GMT
Updated, Im just done my mq. Like now, Im level 192. I have fun with this bild.Im still keep playing it. My build needs a ton of points t cover so many thing. I dont feel tanky yet, at this point. But, parry proc rate is awesome with all this set. -15% melee resistant isn't a problem at all with parry proc rate. The hard time for me is magic. Even I have +magic resistant from gold armor. Im still get high magic damage. I hope this gap will be closed when I have more status point for int. So far what I have Is: leben hp20 (hp4) gold armor hp20 (hp5) spin shield hp20 (auto 4, accessory auto 3) kgs douin (VIT3) I plan to lazy solo farm dark bosses with this (like ushilth or zazel) but I cant hit well atm because of 1dex. So far Im only doing ganei for lazy farm. I can hit him well and It only takes 1 berserk with full mp. EDIT: Inserted video below.
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Post by mokie on Apr 20, 2015 0:37:33 GMT
Hi, I am again. LOL After I have a lot of +autoskill proc rate, I start feeling that there is a cap for it. I feel no different between spin shield with autoskill lvl2 and duel shield. Moreover, it seems that when double attack proc, lebenglanz skill will not.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 20, 2015 1:57:19 GMT
Hi, I am again. LOL After I have a lot of +autoskill proc rate, I start feeling that there is a cap for it. I feel no different between spin shield with autoskill lvl2 and duel shield. Moreover, it seems that when double attack proc, lebenglanz skill will not. Well yeah I do get mixed feelings about proc rate. I have Gold Armor (4%), Spin Shield (8%), Auto ability (5% + 4%) which lands me about 174kHP +21% auto, and it doesn't seem to improve much as I expected it to be, and the double attack might indeed be the culprit. So far the conclusion that I have is: 1) Leben doesn't proc versus Mezzaluna on negative auto buff which confirms that Leben is affected by autoskill+ 2) Double Attack proc is also increased by Autoskill+ 3) Leben does not proc when double attack procs (either that or Double attack does not proc when Leben procs, but it doesn't seem to be the case, so:) Theoretically, assuming that Leben's Auto is at 25% proc rate (including the -10% penalty), and double attack defeats Leben: No auto+ gear:Double Attack: 10% - 10% leben penalty = 0% Which leaves 100% for Leben to proc the 25% = 25% Leben proc rate +21% auto gear:Double Attack: 10 -10% (leben penalty) +21% = 21% Which leaves 79% for Leben to proc the 25%+21% rate: 79% x 46% = 36.34% Leben proc rate This would explain why the proc rates are still similar despite having high Auto+. This also suggests that after a certain point of Double Attack proc rate, adding more proc rate will be detrimental to Leben's Auto. To exaggerate, if your double attack is 100%, you will have 0% for Leben proc rate (so yeah, it will be capped to a certain point). However, when I have my HP gear, it only lands me at about 178kHP +0% auto, so I think it is still better for me to do 174k HP +21%auto. It does feel that I have faster kill time with it, but I agree that it doesn't feel like it's by alot. I need to do more tests and gather more data to validate this. EDIT: Forgot to consider that Leben has -10% autoskill so Double attack will not proc with No auto gear. Numbers corrected accordingly.
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Post by mokie on Apr 20, 2015 7:12:56 GMT
Hi, I am again. LOL After I have a lot of +autoskill proc rate, I start feeling that there is a cap for it. I feel no different between spin shield with autoskill lvl2 and duel shield. Moreover, it seems that when double attack proc, lebenglanz skill will not. Well yeah I do get mixed feelings about proc rate. I have Gold Armor (4%), Spin Shield (8%), Auto ability (5% + 4%) which lands me about 174kHP +21% auto, and it doesn't seem to improve much as I expected it to be, and the double attack might indeed be the culprit. So far the conclusion that I have is: 1) Leben doesn't proc versus Mezzaluna on negative auto buff which confirms that Leben is affected by autoskill+ 2) Double Attack proc is also increased by Autoskill+ 3) Leben does not proc when double attack procs (either that or Double attack does not proc when Leben procs, but it doesn't seem to be the case, so:) Theoretically, assuming that Leben's Auto is at 25% proc rate (including the -10% penalty), and double attack defeats Leben: No auto+ gear:Double Attack: 5% - 10% leben penalty = -5% Which leaves 100% for Leben to proc the 25% = 25% Leben proc rate +21% auto gear:Double Attack: 5% -10% (leben penalty) +21% = 16% Which leaves 84% for Leben to proc the 25%+21% rate: 84% x 46% = 38.64% Leben proc rate This would explain why the proc rates are still similar despite having high Auto+. This also suggests that after a certain point of Double Attack proc rate, adding more proc rate will be detrimental to Leben's Auto. To exaggerate, if your double attack is 100%, you will have 0% for Leben proc rate (so yeah, it will be capped to a certain point). However, when I have my HP gear, it only lands me at about 178kHP +0% auto, so I think it is still better for me to do 174k HP +21%auto. It does feel that I have faster kill time with it, but I agree that it doesn't feel like it's by alot. I need to do more tests and gather more data to validate this. EDIT: Forgot to consider that Leben has -10% autoskill so Double attack will not proc with No auto gear. Numbers corrected accordingly. Nice!! One thing, base of double attack is not 5%. It is 10%.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Apr 20, 2015 7:55:23 GMT
Thanks. Edited accordingly.
Anyway the proc rate figures are just based on assumptions and are just there to help explain the theory.
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Post by Kirin。 on May 5, 2015 3:25:15 GMT
Updated, Im just done my mq. Like now, Im level 192. I have fun with this bild.Im still keep playing it. My build needs a ton of points t cover so many thing. I dont feel tanky yet, at this point. But, parry proc rate is awesome with all this set. -15% melee resistant isn't a problem at all with parry proc rate. The hard time for me is magic. Even I have +magic resistant from gold armor. Im still get high magic damage. I hope this gap will be closed when I have more status point for int. So far what I have Is: leben hp20 (hp4) gold armor hp20 (hp5) spin shield hp20 (auto 4, accessory auto 3) kgs douin (VIT3) I plan to lazy solo farm dark bosses with this (like ushilth or zazel) but I cant hit well atm because of 1dex. So far Im only doing ganei for lazy farm. I can hit him well and It only takes 1 berserk with full mp. EDIT: Inserted video below. Mother of God O.o this video makes me want to make a lazy Paly o.o Gj Gj!
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Post by mokie on May 7, 2015 19:27:03 GMT
I just realize that spin shield has a hidden effect, after I use it for a while. It's so awesome for autoattack build Again, I love this Lazy Build. LOL
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Post by mokie on May 7, 2015 20:37:42 GMT
I just know that the effect is changed after yesterday patch. I love the old effect more. Dammit
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 7, 2015 23:47:21 GMT
I just realize at spin shield has a hidden effect, after I use it for a while. It's so awesome for autoattack build Again, I love this Lazy Build. LOL Whats the hidden effect? It doesnt say on jp wiki yet. Ive been using replica gauntlet recently so I dont have to use pots often. yeah they changed the animation similar to kreis heal which looks fugly and confusing.
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Post by mokie on May 8, 2015 2:18:30 GMT
It seen to have stun proc rate when attack. My pally doesn't have Stun Parry yet due to laziness of doing skill quests that make me easier to check that. (I still get mad with that rollback. I did 4 skill quest then it rollbacked.) My equipment is Lebenglanz, gold armor, spin shield, and Brave bangle. All are put hp20%.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on May 8, 2015 2:42:55 GMT
It seen to have stun proc rate when attack. My pally doesn't have Stun Parry yet due to laziness of doing skill quests that make me easier to check that. (I still get mad with that rollback. I did 4 skill quest then it rollbacked.) My equipment is Lebenglanz, gold armor, spin shield, and Brave bangle. All are put hp20%. I don't think I can test this with my pally. I'll try it with my gladiator. Edit: I just realized that my inbox are full of Onigiris and salts so I couldn't mail my gears. I'll do it some other time.
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Post by mokie on May 8, 2015 22:50:20 GMT
I'm doing skill quest, right now. Actually, it is Stun Parry quest. While I am doing it, some monsters get stun. I took some pictures of them before the quest it done. LOL I won't test this anymore. (ฺBecause, I can't, after I get stun parry.)
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Post by _ on May 8, 2015 22:54:01 GMT
I'm doing skill quest, right now. Actually, it is Stun Parry quest. While I am doing it, some monsters get stun. I took some pictures of them before the quest it done. LOL I won't test this anymore. (ฺBecause, I can't, after I get stun parry.) you're not in a pt with an enchanter correct? because their enchant skill (the deployable one to other chars) has a autoskill that can stun I'm just making sure since i cant make out much from the pictures
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Post by mokie on May 8, 2015 23:11:57 GMT
I'm doing skill quest, right now. Actually, it is Stun Parry quest. While I am doing it, some monsters get stun. I took some pictures of them before the quest it done. LOL I won't test this anymore. (ฺBecause, I can't, after I get stun parry.) you're not in a pt with an enchanter correct? because their enchant skill (the deployable one to other chars) has a autoskill that can stun I'm just making sure since i cant make out much from the pictures The first picture, I partied with my sin. Second one, I didn't have party. >.<
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