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Geo build
Jun 4, 2015 13:59:24 GMT
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Post by ash on Jun 4, 2015 13:59:24 GMT
Geobreaker is pretty confusing lol. Why does my shellbreak sometimes do more damage than my geo? Like my geo could do 6k and shellbreak deals 20k o.o I know that geo can crt and sometimes wont crt but for crts to be lower than shell is pretty off balance. Do u have low crit and high dex? in my experience geo sometimes dont crt, it pops up as white dmg, crt geo pops up as orange like all crt atks. Only time i have seen geo do that low (6k) was when it was not crt.
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Geo build
Jun 4, 2015 15:16:10 GMT
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Jun 4, 2015 15:16:10 GMT
Geobreaker is pretty confusing lol. Why does my shellbreak sometimes do more damage than my geo? Like my geo could do 6k and shellbreak deals 20k o.o I know that geo can crt and sometimes wont crt but for crts to be lower than shell is pretty off balance. Do u have low crit and high dex? in my experience geo sometimes dont crt, it pops up as white dmg, crt geo pops up as orange like all crt atks. Only time i have seen geo do that low (6k) was when it was not crt. Geobreaker is pretty confusing lol. Why does my shellbreak sometimes do more damage than my geo? Like my geo could do 6k and shellbreak deals 20k o.o I know that geo can crt and sometimes wont crt but for crts to be lower than shell is pretty off balance. Probably barriers. Also Shell Break just does big damage to bosses in general. Geobreaker can actually Shell Break as well. Like...on most in game bosses Shell Break Geo does more than double the damage of non Shell Break Geo. 6k seems very low for Geo though so I'm guessing it was a very high DEF boss/mob in which case Shell Break would do much more. stats are 304AGI/240CRT/100RD I was fighting minenaga So geo isnt as hyped up as I thought I think my highest geo so far was 30k
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jun 4, 2015 16:07:32 GMT
Do u have low crit and high dex? in my experience geo sometimes dont crt, it pops up as white dmg, crt geo pops up as orange like all crt atks. Only time i have seen geo do that low (6k) was when it was not crt. Probably barriers. Also Shell Break just does big damage to bosses in general. Geobreaker can actually Shell Break as well. Like...on most in game bosses Shell Break Geo does more than double the damage of non Shell Break Geo. 6k seems very low for Geo though so I'm guessing it was a very high DEF boss/mob in which case Shell Break would do much more. stats are 304AGI/240CRT/100RD I was fighting minenaga So geo isnt as hyped up as I thought I think my highest geo so far was 30k Would depend on what "hype" you're referring to, but based on your stats, guessing you're around L210? Your CRT DMG probably ~8-10K? I'd call that pretty good dmg unless you're decked out with 2S, dorry, raton etc, and even then, you won't be doubling that dmg any time soon. Since GoE is AOE, you're still looking at dealing dmg 30K x 3. Not build for spamming though, but that's like my AA Sniper complaining his Arrow rain sucks
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Geo build
Jun 4, 2015 17:43:08 GMT
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Post by ash on Jun 4, 2015 17:43:08 GMT
Do u have low crit and high dex? in my experience geo sometimes dont crt, it pops up as white dmg, crt geo pops up as orange like all crt atks. Only time i have seen geo do that low (6k) was when it was not crt. Probably barriers. Also Shell Break just does big damage to bosses in general. Geobreaker can actually Shell Break as well. Like...on most in game bosses Shell Break Geo does more than double the damage of non Shell Break Geo. 6k seems very low for Geo though so I'm guessing it was a very high DEF boss/mob in which case Shell Break would do much more. stats are 304AGI/240CRT/100RD I was fighting minenaga So geo isnt as hyped up as I thought I think my highest geo so far was 30k Aah.. u r claw build. My highest geo damage was on mezzazaluna 183k. Shell break geo when her barrier was up. normally i do 20k (30k with shell break) when frozen 40k (80k with shell break) lvl 201 int 337 dex 70 crt 303
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 4, 2015 18:35:13 GMT
Do u have low crit and high dex? in my experience geo sometimes dont crt, it pops up as white dmg, crt geo pops up as orange like all crt atks. Only time i have seen geo do that low (6k) was when it was not crt. Probably barriers. Also Shell Break just does big damage to bosses in general. Geobreaker can actually Shell Break as well. Like...on most in game bosses Shell Break Geo does more than double the damage of non Shell Break Geo. 6k seems very low for Geo though so I'm guessing it was a very high DEF boss/mob in which case Shell Break would do much more. stats are 304AGI/240CRT/100RD I was fighting minenaga So geo isnt as hyped up as I thought I think my highest geo so far was 30k My highest non Shell Break Geo's are usually around 70k with Freeze. You can pretty much double that if you Shell Break on a higher leveled boss not using a Barrier(or close to double). Geo is strong because of a bunch of different things coming together: 1)It can crit 2)It can Shell Break 3)It does double damage to Frozen or Stunned targets 4)Chakra provides an extra bonus ATK to Throwing aside from INT. Also Chakra with Throwing is the highest boost in a single stat on ATK aside from the new Special Claw. This makes it easier to build up a lot of ATK on Geo Monk compared to some other classes 5)Throwing weapons have pretty nice stats overall. Yay Elemental Weapons So if not built and geared properly for Geo then you will feel as if you are doing very lackluster damage. The damage is also mediocre if there is no freeze or stun, however thats easy to find. It's a party AOE as well so it does pretty high damage in EXP parties, although freeze/stun will only provide a bonus to the mob you are currently targetting, not all of them. If built properly and geared well they will do more damage than any other class aside from Assassin on a boss, unless that boss has high DEF and barriers, in which case the Geo Monk will probably do more. P.S: My Monk has mediocre gear but is stat released and 229. I've seen some Monks do more than double my damage a while ago. I'm sure they make my damage look even weaker now by comparison lol.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jun 4, 2015 19:25:20 GMT
stats are 304AGI/240CRT/100RD I was fighting minenaga So geo isnt as hyped up as I thought I think my highest geo so far was 30k My highest non Shell Break Geo's are usually around 70k with Freeze. You can pretty much double that if you Shell Break on a higher leveled boss not using a Barrier(or close to double). Geo is strong because of a bunch of different things coming together: 1)It can crit 2)It can Shell Break 3)It does double damage to Frozen or Stunned targets 4)Chakra provides an extra bonus ATK to Throwing aside from INT. Also Chakra with Throwing is the highest boost in a single stat on ATK aside from the new Special Claw. This makes it easier to build up a lot of ATK on Geo Monk compared to some other classes 5)Throwing weapons have pretty nice stats overall. Yay Elemental Weapons So if not built and geared properly for Geo then you will feel as if you are doing very lackluster damage. The damage is also mediocre if there is no freeze or stun, however thats easy to find. It's a party AOE as well so it does pretty high damage in EXP parties, although freeze/stun will only provide a bonus to the mob you are currently targetting, not all of them. If built properly and geared well they will do more damage than any other class aside from Assassin on a boss, unless that boss has high DEF and barriers, in which case the Geo Monk will probably do more. P.S: My Monk has mediocre gear but is stat released and 229. I've seen some Monks do more than double my damage a while ago. I'm sure they make my damage look even weaker now by comparison lol. Huh... I must say, am surprised you did not list the (IMO) biggest draw for Geo: Ability to spam it. Doing 100K per hit every 10 seconds sounds nice, unless you can do 30K a second (numbers for example only) On a different note: kinda disappointed about this part. Can you confirm/clarify? One of the things I was thinking of is partnering Geo Spam + HW freeze lol
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Geo build
Jun 4, 2015 23:08:31 GMT
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Jun 4, 2015 23:08:31 GMT
stats are 304AGI/240CRT/100RD I was fighting minenaga So geo isnt as hyped up as I thought I think my highest geo so far was 30k My highest non Shell Break Geo's are usually around 70k with Freeze. You can pretty much double that if you Shell Break on a higher leveled boss not using a Barrier(or close to double). Geo is strong because of a bunch of different things coming together: 1)It can crit 2)It can Shell Break 3)It does double damage to Frozen or Stunned targets 4)Chakra provides an extra bonus ATK to Throwing aside from INT. Also Chakra with Throwing is the highest boost in a single stat on ATK aside from the new Special Claw. This makes it easier to build up a lot of ATK on Geo Monk compared to some other classes 5)Throwing weapons have pretty nice stats overall. Yay Elemental Weapons So if not built and geared properly for Geo then you will feel as if you are doing very lackluster damage. The damage is also mediocre if there is no freeze or stun, however thats easy to find. It's a party AOE as well so it does pretty high damage in EXP parties, although freeze/stun will only provide a bonus to the mob you are currently targetting, not all of them. If built properly and geared well they will do more damage than any other class aside from Assassin on a boss, unless that boss has high DEF and barriers, in which case the Geo Monk will probably do more. P.S: My Monk has mediocre gear but is stat released and 229. I've seen some Monks do more than double my damage a while ago. I'm sure they make my damage look even weaker now by comparison lol. In the case that it can shellbreak...I might actually do some really good damage given the right conditions. At lv.152 I hit a 60k shellbreak. Geo might do like 200k o.o Ill test it more soon.thanks for the info!
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jun 4, 2015 23:25:44 GMT
stats are 304AGI/240CRT/100RD I was fighting minenaga So geo isnt as hyped up as I thought I think my highest geo so far was 30k My highest non Shell Break Geo's are usually around 70k with Freeze. You can pretty much double that if you Shell Break on a higher leveled boss not using a Barrier(or close to double). Geo is strong because of a bunch of different things coming together: 1)It can crit 2)It can Shell Break 3)It does double damage to Frozen or Stunned targets 4)Chakra provides an extra bonus ATK to Throwing aside from INT. Also Chakra with Throwing is the highest boost in a single stat on ATK aside from the new Special Claw. This makes it easier to build up a lot of ATK on Geo Monk compared to some other classes 5)Throwing weapons have pretty nice stats overall. Yay Elemental Weapons So if not built and geared properly for Geo then you will feel as if you are doing very lackluster damage. The damage is also mediocre if there is no freeze or stun, however thats easy to find. It's a party AOE as well so it does pretty high damage in EXP parties, although freeze/stun will only provide a bonus to the mob you are currently targetting, not all of them. If built properly and geared well they will do more damage than any other class aside from Assassin on a boss, unless that boss has high DEF and barriers, in which case the Geo Monk will probably do more. P.S: My Monk has mediocre gear but is stat released and 229. I've seen some Monks do more than double my damage a while ago. I'm sure they make my damage look even weaker now by comparison lol. Manakhe can you do me a favor? Can you please test/compare atk of throw vs magic sword with chakra? ^^ that is if it isnt much to ask hehe
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jun 4, 2015 23:43:54 GMT
Manakhe can you do me a favor? Can you please test/compare atk of throw vs magic sword with chakra? ^^ that is if it isnt much to ask hehe Not sure how accurate this is, but according to JP wiki, Chakra only works for Nails and Throw.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jun 5, 2015 2:03:19 GMT
Manakhe can you do me a favor? Can you please test/compare atk of throw vs magic sword with chakra? ^^ that is if it isnt much to ask hehe Not sure how accurate this is, but according to JP wiki, Chakra only works for Nails and Throw. It works on every weap ^^ just need int to see its boost ^^
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 5, 2015 4:18:50 GMT
Manakhe can you do me a favor? Can you please test/compare atk of throw vs magic sword with chakra? ^^ that is if it isnt much to ask hehe Not sure how accurate this is, but according to JP wiki, Chakra only works for Nails and Throw. I think it's just a wonky translation wording or something haha. There is an extra bonus ATK if you are using Nail or Throwing. Tilt*Madara My phone is an android with the 5.0 version of it and this weeks update re-broke the compatibility with it that they fixed last week lol. So I can't test it at the moment. My monk is also Claw build at the moment xD. I believe it's a flat ATK increase that you get with Throwing/Claw so the lack of INT might not make a difference anyway though. Edit: Derp should have tagged Umaru-chan not you Tilt xD. Oh well HIIIII TILT
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jun 5, 2015 4:27:37 GMT
Not sure how accurate this is, but according to JP wiki, Chakra only works for Nails and Throw. I think it's just a wonky translation wording or something haha. There is an extra bonus ATK if you are using Nail or Throwing. Tilt*Madara My phone is an android with the 5.0 version of it and this weeks update re-broke the compatibility with it that they fixed last week lol. So I can't test it at the moment. My monk is also Claw build at the moment xD. I believe it's a flat ATK increase that you get with Throwing/Claw so the lack of INT might not make a difference anyway though. Edit: Derp should have tagged Umaru-chan not you Tilt xD. Oh well HIIIII TILT 19lvls more to check chakra results of throw vs. Magic sword ^^ im currently building my monk with early int since i want to deviate from my old build haha! Im still tweaking crt atm so i guess ill merely be giving result on which will give higher atk via chakra buff between magic sword and throw Btw hope the issue with your iruna/phone gets resolve quickly ^^
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Post by asderota on Jun 5, 2015 14:28:44 GMT
Hmm never read about trow gain "more" from chakra that claw itself even when monk is more related to claw that trow from a simple passive called claw mastery. But well i tested chakra with bow and sword and both get bonus.
I not sure im always May be wrong.
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Post by ash on Jun 6, 2015 0:22:30 GMT
i think chakra atk value is same for wvwry weapon, factors are Int and weapon refinement.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Jun 6, 2015 14:28:49 GMT
i think chakra atk value is same for wvwry weapon, factors are Int and weapon refinement. Im gonna try to Geobreak w/ a magic sword hahaha
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