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Geo build
May 7, 2015 19:57:20 GMT
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Post by rahovart on May 7, 2015 19:57:20 GMT
I know crit affects geo dam so is it better to have atk%+ xstals or xstals that up crit dam?
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Post by Jeancarlo on May 7, 2015 20:39:23 GMT
I know crit affects geo dam so is it better to have atk%+ xstals or xstals that up crit dam? It kinda depends on what you're doing and what your ATK is at already. Bosses tend to have higher Def which requires high(er) atk, but non-boss mobs don't and you're better off with higher crt dmg. At later levels and when you pass the 2K ATK mark, most formulas I have seen tend to favor crt cmg Personally, I tend to go k.i.s.s. and go with the higher number. So Cerberus 12% Crt dmg > Vida 10% ATK, for example (the -crt rate of cerb is Easily overcome)
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Post by asderota on May 7, 2015 20:44:59 GMT
I know crit affects geo dam so is it better to have atk%+ xstals or xstals that up crit dam? the most efective set : weapon = raton + hit5 ab 14% crt armor = minenaga or mangoza + hit5 ab mine+10%crt mangoza +9%atck additional = raton + hit5 ab crt 14% plus 6%atk spec = beelzenoid if posibble hit5 too str+2 plus 14% crt this set has to be used with more that 200 points u can avoid the dex use because the hit abi, dunno is there hit on add i use tench on it when i test it. if u are lucky and can get one of these 2slots add atkc%
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Post by Jeancarlo on May 7, 2015 20:52:53 GMT
I know crit affects geo dam so is it better to have atk%+ xstals or xstals that up crit dam? this set has to be used with more that 200 points u can avoid the dex use because the hit abi, dunno is there hit on add i use tench on it when i test it. Not sure if I understood this correctly, but Dex' contribution to Hit is mostly irrelevant since he's spamming a skill, and going by CRT DMG (which is based on CRT rate, not Hit). The only class that up Dex are casters, and for it's MATK and CSPD contribution. Edit: O and skill delay too for some class
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Geo build
May 7, 2015 20:57:24 GMT
via mobile
Post by rahovart on May 7, 2015 20:57:24 GMT
Atk%+ xstals seem like the way to go then since I have no str ATM.
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Post by asderota on May 7, 2015 21:01:49 GMT
hit help a lot againts resistent boss or mobs, since it raises the dmg over the defense or better say the def is resist is lowered
also remember (raho)
trow gain
+2 atk per str +2 atk per int +1 atk per dex
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Post by Jeancarlo on May 7, 2015 21:05:51 GMT
hit help a lot againts resistent boss or mobs, since it raises the dmg over the defense or better say the def is resist is lowered also remember (raho) trow gain +2 atk per str +2 atk per int +1 atk per dex I think you may be confusing the Hit stat and ATK stat... iruna.wikidot.com/status
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Geo build
May 7, 2015 21:06:40 GMT
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Post by rahovart on May 7, 2015 21:06:40 GMT
hit help a lot againts resistent boss or mobs, since it raises the dmg over the defense or better say the def is resist is lowered also remember (raho) trow gain +2 atk per str +2 atk per int +1 atk per dex That's good to know ty.
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Post by asderota on May 7, 2015 21:19:59 GMT
hmm well... yap i wrong:
anyway my build was
overcap apostolia
390 str 390 int 294 crt
boosted already, when i test i hav just one raton, my damg was 58k regular 69k regular (this is was hit afect), proc 98k 109k, never test on high def bosses my hp was a mess so i never try but nina said that she hit over 200k and 350k on raton.
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Geo build
Jun 1, 2015 14:35:38 GMT
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Post by ash on Jun 1, 2015 14:35:38 GMT
hmm well... yap i wrong: anyway my build was overcap apostolia 390 str 390 int 294 crt boosted already, when i test i hav just one raton, my damg was 58k regular 69k regular (this is was hit afect), proc 98k 109k, never test on high def bosses my hp was a mess so i never try but nina said that she hit over 200k and 350k on raton. I saw nina do 120k normal on baum warrior n 240k with freeze.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jun 3, 2015 21:46:13 GMT
ManaKhe, do you know if these formulas apply to Geo the way they're broken up? (A) Base/Non Crit Dmg (http://irunaonline.boards.net/thread/10732/unwritten-formulas) (B) CRT DMG (same link)
Geo Break (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://iruna-online.wikiwiki.jp/&prev=search)
Which means Geo break Sl1 = (A) x 3 to (B) x 3? Assuming Geo can hit at a non-crt level ?
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 4, 2015 1:10:50 GMT
ManaKhe, do you know if these formulas apply to Geo the way they're broken up? (A) Base/Non Crit Dmg (http://irunaonline.boards.net/thread/10732/unwritten-formulas) (B) CRT DMG (same link)
Geo Break (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://iruna-online.wikiwiki.jp/&prev=search)
Which means Geo break Sl1 = (A) x 3 to (B) x 3? Assuming Geo can hit at a non-crt level ? Are you asking whether it can not Crit or not? You can do a non-crit Geobreaker. It probably makes sense to assume it follows the regular damage formula but at 3-3.5(6-7 if frozen/stun) times the damage of a regular attack based on level. I think Sword Pillar is similar to this.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jun 4, 2015 12:16:51 GMT
ManaKhe, do you know if these formulas apply to Geo the way they're broken up? (A) Base/Non Crit Dmg (http://irunaonline.boards.net/thread/10732/unwritten-formulas) (B) CRT DMG (same link)
Geo Break (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://iruna-online.wikiwiki.jp/&prev=search)
Which means Geo break Sl1 = (A) x 3 to (B) x 3? Assuming Geo can hit at a non-crt level ? Are you asking whether it can not Crit or not? You can do a non-crit Geobreaker. It probably makes sense to assume it follows the regular damage formula but at 3-3.5(6-7 if frozen/stun) times the damage of a regular attack based on level. I think Sword Pillar is similar to this. Ok, thanks! And yes, the 3.5 is for Sl2 which you have
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Geo build
Jun 4, 2015 13:09:10 GMT
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Post by Tilt*Madara on Jun 4, 2015 13:09:10 GMT
Geobreaker is pretty confusing lol.
Why does my shellbreak sometimes do more damage than my geo? Like my geo could do 6k and shellbreak deals 20k o.o
I know that geo can crt and sometimes wont crt but for crts to be lower than shell is pretty off balance.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jun 4, 2015 13:55:37 GMT
Geobreaker is pretty confusing lol. Why does my shellbreak sometimes do more damage than my geo? Like my geo could do 6k and shellbreak deals 20k o.o I know that geo can crt and sometimes wont crt but for crts to be lower than shell is pretty off balance. Probably barriers. Also Shell Break just does big damage to bosses in general. Geobreaker can actually Shell Break as well. Like...on most in game bosses Shell Break Geo does more than double the damage of non Shell Break Geo. 6k seems very low for Geo though so I'm guessing it was a very high DEF boss/mob in which case Shell Break would do much more.
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