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Post by ruebear on Nov 17, 2015 17:11:25 GMT
Would anyone be willing to make a new thread keep Ninja info. updated?
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Post by ruebear on Nov 17, 2015 17:04:39 GMT
I said before that i don't really party much outside of my alts, but still i'd like to believe im not completely useless in a party (at least no one has ever complained to me - just teased me about my lowish damage with my old build). Today i was doing my bishop's mq and reached a boss I couldnt duo (Morbelzem, coz his purple floor thingy kept killing the bishop) and decided to move to server 1 and try to get a party (after trying to solo and giving up - my bish wasnt ready for that). So here are my advice for party. Somethings i thought didnt need to be said but today proved me wrong. - Do NOT run in the direction of the healer. EVER. If the boss is targeting you and you are going to die, then die. Dont take the healer with you or there will be no one to revive you.
- If all the healers in the party died (on a boss fight), retreat and disband/leave party.
- If someone is taking the role of party leader, giving commands and making strategies, listen to them. (Unless what they are saying is complete rubish, but if you don't have enough party experience you can't be the judge of that, so just go along with it).
Oh my god, sooo true. Just in general, people need to understand that if they have argo, don't run to other team members and lead the boss to them, unless it's a strong magic based boss, then everyone is screwed either way.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 17, 2015 6:06:47 GMT
Myrica Wristlet would be a better option over Knight Gauntlet. It gives you the amount of VIT equal to the half of your level... Like if you are level 100, it gives you 50 VIT so it's pretty useful and preferable over Knight Gauntlet. Thanks for the info. Wasn't too sure when I was reading up on the PLD stickies. Also do you know how much Myrica Ns/S is?
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Post by ruebear on Nov 17, 2015 6:03:20 GMT
Hello all, So this will be my first time ever choosing a different class other than some sort of buffer class, or heavy magic based class, except for Ninja.. I haven't made an alt yet for my PLD to be, cus I want to get everything down right first rather than mess up and restart a few times. Plus I still need to farming for my gear and xtals. My gear set up: Weapon: Wound Transfer (Special Sword): Max HP + 15%, Reflect + 5%, DEF up by DEX. (Crysta:Piton) (Ability:☆hp) Armor: Heinrich Mail: ATK +8%, MATK +8%, Melee Pierce +2%, Magic Pierce +2%, Cut Damage if HP is less than 25%, Magic Evasion +5%. (Crysta:Dorry) (Ability:☆hp) Add. Equip: Wolf Ears: Hate Rise +20%, Heal reward +500, Rate cut +15%, Skill Delay -0.5 seconds. (Crysta:Ganei) (Ability:☆hp) Spec. Equip: Knight Gauntlet: ATK up by VIT with Swords, ATK+30, Max HP+15%. (Crysta:Piton) (Ability:☆hp) Errrmmm soooo that's how I envisioned what my gear set up would be. I'm kind of all over the place with hp and attack. That's what I'm planning on going for unless there's something wrong with my gear set up. I kind of want to have hp and deal some damage at the same time. IMO, hp+20% is better than piton xtal. And, please, do not use ganei on add. (>.<) Guardian's (Paladin skill at lvl 160 and 200) damage is calculated by both atk and hp. If you have less budget hp+20% is the best. Otherwise, you can use atk gear. Like Excalibur said, myrica is a lot better than kgs. When you level around 250 or higher, even myrica ns will be better than kgs/douin (for hp gear). And, you can upgrade your sword, the upgraded version have come out for a while. Anyway, this is just my suggestion. Maybe, someone will give you a better idea. Oops sorry, I meant to put Ganei on KG. That way the -30%hp would cancel out. Fixed my original post. I chose Piton for the +10%mp, cus I wasn't sure if this would make a difference for my mp pool or not. But if the +20%hp xtal is better, alright then lol.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 17, 2015 4:05:53 GMT
Hello all,
So this will be my first time ever choosing a different class other than some sort of buffer class, or heavy magic based class, except for Ninja..
I haven't made an alt yet for my PLD to be, cus I want to get everything down right first rather than mess up and restart a few times. Plus I still need to farm for my gear and xtals.
My gear set up:
Weapon: Wound Transfer (Special Sword): Max HP + 15%, Reflect + 5%, DEF up by DEX. (Crysta:+20%hp) (Ability:☆hp) Armor: Heinrich Mail: ATK +8%, MATK +8%, Melee Pierce +2%, Magic Pierce +2%, Cut Damage if HP is less than 25%, Magic Evasion +5%. (Crysta:Dorry) (Ability:☆hp)
Add. Equip: Wolf Ears: Hate Rise +20%, Heal reward +500, Rate cut +15%, Skill Delay -0.5 seconds. (Crysta:+20%hp) (Ability:☆hp)
Spec. Equip: Myrica Wristlet: VIT up based on 50% of Lv with Swords, Neutral R +5%. (Crysta:Ganei) (Ability:☆hp)
Errrmmm soooo that's how I envisioned what my gear set up would be. I'm kind of all over the place with hp and attack. That's what I'm planning on going for unless there's something wrong with my gear set up. I kind of want to have hp and deal some damage at the same time.
Edit: So I'll possibly change the Crysta to the +20%hp rather have Piton xtal. We'll see..
Edit again: Yeah so I'll add the +20hp% xtals. I'm still looking through and trying to add up stats and see what works out. I'll have to wait till maybe next year to make my PLD. I'll be farming the crap out of Dorry when Christmas event is out. Maybe I'll use Magonza, but idk if 3%attack is much of a difference or not.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 16, 2015 12:23:43 GMT
Some1 with a generic name (not kirito lol but similar deal) in trying to prove their superiority start calling me a nub and saying I've only been on 6 mths (nearly a yr now actually) and how they remember me wearing damascan armour.... Me: umm...and who tf are you with your generic name?... Every1 remembers me at least (day by day my infamy grows huehue) I think I vaguely remember seeing you once either from a GC or possible rokoko. Not sure though.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 16, 2015 3:35:43 GMT
This is a little late BUUUUTTTT...
Once you get to lvl170+ around that area you won't be able to clone more than 3. Someone left out this crucial information and didn't care to explain. I don't know why, maybe it's a bug or your base HP is too high.
Once you reach around lvl170+ you need to have -100%hp or you can't clone more than 3. Maybe because your base HP is just too high, and the +9 clones won't active, idk...
You can either use Blue Ogre xtal, which has -10%hp. Ganei which has -30%hp Or use Cursed Nails which has -15%hp
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Post by ruebear on Nov 16, 2015 3:27:51 GMT
I haven't played Magic Ninja yet, but what I've read it's beneficial to go with the build and equips listed in the Magic Ninja build thread.
Go with that first then play around and see what happens. Also I'd go with a Throwing Wep. for the passive skill to active.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 16, 2015 3:20:58 GMT
I went nail/claw with my first Ninja, and quite honesty I didn't like it. Bow Ninja has higher attack which was nice for breaking through most boss's defense buffs.
You should focus on maxing out agi>crt first before choosing a third stat. Nail/Claw goes agi>crt>str Bow goes agi>crt>dex
If you're going for a farming Ninja go bow style. Higher attack, more damage, and you can pierce through those high defense. You can also use thimble for more damage.
However you could go agi>crt>str and switch between claw/nails and bow. You could also use adamantite arrow spec. equip with this build when equiping a bow weapon.
All in all you sort of have to play both weapon builds and see which one you like better.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 16, 2015 3:11:24 GMT
Well considering you're going to max out agi, hopefully, then vit wouldn't be that necessary. There's also ai crystaa for more eva.
As you begin to move onto higher leveled bosses and mobs, most of them can one shot you. Ninjas have no buffs or passive skills to boost their hp, so unless you get all hp/vit stat gear then I guess your agi/vit build could work. But then again, you would be more on the tanky side rather than attack, considering most Ninjas are DPS.
Would be an interesting build to play.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 16, 2015 0:27:52 GMT
Hello,
I'd like to address a few issues I've seen and/or experienced as a Ninja or maybe some common knowledge that needs to be pointed out or shared with.
1. If you're new to being a Ninja and plan on using a cheap set in the beginning, please plan ahead for your class. I've noticed that if you're using the bare minimum of -90%hp(Schwartz>G.ring>Magical Ring), around the level of 170, that's when you're no longer able to to clone more than 3. I'm not sure if this affects everyone or only a few selected. Might be a bug. I believe this happens due to your base hp being to high due to your level and the -90%hp not taking affect. Which I have no idea why that would be so. Anyone care to explain?
This can be fixed by using Cursed Nails, if you're willing to switch weapons and special equipment throughout battle. However if you're have some spina to spend, you can buy a Blue Ogre xtal which has -10%hp. Or simply buy a Ganei xtal with its -30%hp.
2. This doesn't necessarily go with just Ninjas but should be common information known to the public.
Ever wonder why your damage to a boss or mob is only 1-2 damage? Most likely two things. Your attack is below 1000 or the boss or mob's defense is ridiculously high from a buff or it's base defense.
Why I'm putting this in the Ninja section is because most new Ninjas fail to understand that they need to raise their attack above 1000 to pierce through a boss or mob's defense. Since Ninjas have no buffs. They think that as long as they can attack fast and not die while using clones they're invincible. Good luck trying to trying to kill a boss/mob with only 1-2 damage. Of course the defense buff of a boss doesn't last the whole battle. However people need to be prepared.
3. Thus leading to my next section. If you're a Ninja using a Nail type weapon, and your attack is below 1000, I suggest a few things. Get Battle Claw for its melee+ and/or get Ultimi armor for its melee+. This can help you achieve that 1000+ attack and help you pierce through that high defense. Or look for any equips that have melee+ or pierce%+.
If you're a Ninja using a bow type weapon you should be good on reaching that 1000 mark. If not, either refined/upgrade your weapon and/or get Ultimi and switch between armors depending on the boss or mob in order to break through that high defense.
Any who this what I've seen/experienced.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 15, 2015 16:27:04 GMT
Whenever: S) **** 10m Person:hi, i only have 8m Me:then u cant buy Person: ok 10m Me: to bad, u only have 8 m *kicks/disband* Why u always lyin~~♪ They ought to learn to barter... Like: Hey, could I possibly buy for say 8 or 9m? If still refused then I would buy it if I had the money or I would apologize for bugging and leave pt... It's not too hard... oh well find another seller. This is another thing I don't understand with people. If you're trying to sell an item why do you persist on selling it at an exact price? 1-2m won't make too much of a difference so you might as well barter if you've been in rokoko for a few hours trying to sell an item.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 15, 2015 2:43:07 GMT
Trading Etiquettes: 1. When you pt someone to trade, don't say "trade me." You should be the one trading them. It's rude for one and the person is selling the goods. So make the effort to at least scroll through the large number of people on the Target list. 2. Say "thank you" after you trade with someone. Again it's rude if you don't. Unless given a reason not to. Like someone saying "bye bi*ch," to you. (Like what happened to me.. tf.) 3. Know what you're buying before randomly trying to buy anything. It saves time for you and the seller and less angry Irunians. 4. Don't be an ass like this: Seller: 5m for (x-item). Buyer: Okay -sends 4,999,999- Fill free to add things, I'm sure there are plenty more things to add. 1. Always do that, but they invite me to trade, and im not even say "trade me" :3 2. Always do that, but they asap leave pt before i tap "T" on my keyboard :3 3. Always do that, but i find noob seller that make everything too d*mn expensive :3 4. Never, but i will try it :v 5. Is there a five? :v These are just from my experience. You can add anything you feel that people should or shouldn't do when trading.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 15, 2015 1:41:26 GMT
Trading Etiquettes: 1. When you pt someone to trade, don't say "trade me." You should be the one trading them. It's rude for one and the person is selling the goods. So make the effort to at least scroll through the large number of people on the Target list.
2. Say "thank you" after you trade with someone. Again it's rude if you don't. Unless given a reason not to. Like someone saying "bye bi*ch," to you. (Like what happened to me.. tf.)
3. Know what you're buying before randomly trying to buy anything. It saves time for you and the seller and less angry Irunians.
4. Don't be an ass like this:
Seller: 5m for (x-item). Buyer: Okay -sends 4,999,999-
Fill free to add things, I'm sure there are plenty more things to add.
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Post by ruebear on Nov 15, 2015 0:32:32 GMT
Selling Ninja Sets today and there were more than enough of people not knowing what it was, or thought it was an equip.
I can understand that if you're new, but if you're like lvl100+ and don't know, please make a new character and take it slow this time.
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