|
Post by Statikk on Mar 8, 2014 11:04:08 GMT
Hey, I'm making a backstab assassin and I need some advices about how to build/equip him ^^ I've heard that they are usually building Int/Crt/Dex but Flarius suggested to add some Agi too ...? And about gears (Exelis up?) and xtals (Bc, Colon tree? Gankaku?), I don't really know what to buy I'm really confused... (Btw I know that there are many threads about how to build assassins but Idk if it's about auto attackers, backstabers or something else)
|
|
Flarius
Member
Community Contributor
What do people do with all the extra time they save by writing "K" instead of "OK"?
|
Post by Flarius on Mar 8, 2014 13:29:14 GMT
just dont complicate urself.make it easy like this.
with agi = have survival,can move alone,a bit loss in stats but flexible
without agi = get extra stats, cant move alone,need party all the time
xtals and equips.
str player = get all dmg based gears
agi player = get evd and m.evd and also def or hp gear
dex player = get all casting and delay reduction based gears
|
|
Flarius
Member
Community Contributor
What do people do with all the extra time they save by writing "K" instead of "OK"?
|
Post by Flarius on Mar 8, 2014 13:32:40 GMT
also, with agi = u can auto attack while using atk skill
and without agi = fully skill user,no auto attack, either be a max damager,or a super fast skill user
|
|
|
Post by Statikk on Mar 8, 2014 15:31:03 GMT
just dont complicate urself.make it easy like this. with agi = have survival,can move alone,a bit loss in stats but flexible without agi = get extra stats, cant move alone,need party all the time xtals and equips. str player = get all dmg based gears agi player = get evd and m.evd and also def or hp gear dex player = get all casting and delay reduction based gears Ok thanks ^^ I think I'll do a mix between these types, I mean add some agi (120?) but still have cooldown reduction w/ Exelis upg and Colon tree xtal(s). Any advices/comments about equips I should use or about stats?
|
|
|
Post by Razen on Mar 8, 2014 20:24:42 GMT
I think a good build for a backstaber is : Max Int 139 agi for max aspd or 150 if u want more eva 90 crt ( u can use t garb ( 3rd up if u want ) slot with himmel ( for crt rate ) And 60dex About the stuff u can altern schwartz slot ( not up ) with himmel. Or t garb. U have Many choice and Btw u can use exelis for be swagg :3 Ghost ring slot with himmel or bc ( depend what u want ) For the spécial équipement i guess u want hp ? Then s bangle ( if possible slot with colon tree ( for the skill delay )) And for the weapon i think 1 shuriken fuma is not bad ( Bcoz skill delay -0.5) if u can get shuriken fuma 2slot its not bad and then u can slot it with bc and plazuda ^^ or only plazuda xtal. Thats all ^^ If u have others ideas.. then tell me
|
|
|
Post by Statikk on Mar 9, 2014 0:22:03 GMT
I think a good build for a backstaber is : Max Int 139 agi for max aspd or 150 if u want more eva 90 crt ( u can use t garb ( 3rd up if u want ) slot with himmel ( for crt rate ) And 60dex About the stuff u can altern schwartz slot ( not up ) with himmel. Or t garb. U have Many choice and Btw u can use exelis for be swagg :3 Ghost ring slot with himmel or bc ( depend what u want ) For the spécial équipement i guess u want hp ? Then s bangle ( if possible slot with colon tree ( for the skill delay )) And for the weapon i think 1 shuriken fuma is not bad ( Bcoz skill delay -0.5) if u can get shuriken fuma 2slot its not bad and then u can slot it with bc and plazuda ^^ or only plazuda xtal. Thats all ^^ If u have others ideas.. then tell me Okay ^^ I'll try Exelis with BC or Aello (Himmel gives only crt eva, not crt rate ><), Shuriken Fuma with Plazuda and...Blancheur (?) with BC. I'm unsure about offensive special equip :S All advices are welcome !
|
|
Dahnz
Member
Hi. I like to randomly pop up here and there.
|
Post by Dahnz on Mar 9, 2014 21:27:45 GMT
I think a good build for a backstaber is : Max Int 139 agi for max aspd or 150 if u want more eva 90 crt ( u can use t garb ( 3rd up if u want ) slot with himmel ( for crt rate ) And 60dex About the stuff u can altern schwartz slot ( not up ) with himmel. Or t garb. U have Many choice and Btw u can use exelis for be swagg :3 Ghost ring slot with himmel or bc ( depend what u want ) For the spécial équipement i guess u want hp ? Then s bangle ( if possible slot with colon tree ( for the skill delay )) And for the weapon i think 1 shuriken fuma is not bad ( Bcoz skill delay -0.5) if u can get shuriken fuma 2slot its not bad and then u can slot it with bc and plazuda ^^ or only plazuda xtal. Thats all ^^ If u have others ideas.. then tell me Okay ^^ I'll try Exelis with BC or Aello (Himmel gives only crt eva, not crt rate ><), Shuriken Fuma with Plazuda and...Blancheur (?) with BC. I'm unsure about offensive special equip :S All advices are welcome ! BTW. Himmel gives +10 CRT Rate and 5% EVA he he he.
|
|
|
Post by Statikk on Mar 9, 2014 21:41:16 GMT
Okay ^^ I'll try Exelis with BC or Aello (Himmel gives only crt eva, not crt rate ><), Shuriken Fuma with Plazuda and...Blancheur (?) with BC. I'm unsure about offensive special equip :S All advices are welcome ! BTW. Himmel gives +10 CRT Rate and 5% EVA he he he. Oh really ^^' My bad
|
|
|
Post by shadowr7 on Mar 11, 2014 17:31:04 GMT
Stick to a Agi/crt build until you can get 3 himmel xtals. Once you get the xtals reset stats to Int/agi/crt. Only give enough agi to raise evade over 450 with buffs and himmel xtals in. The more base atk the greater the Backstab so Int must be high. You can neglect crt quite alot.
|
|
Dahnz
Member
Hi. I like to randomly pop up here and there.
|
Post by Dahnz on Mar 18, 2014 18:36:22 GMT
I like that backstab crt damage tho.
|
|
|
Post by MiLiGRiTo on Mar 19, 2014 1:40:33 GMT
Stick to a Agi/crt build until you can get 3 himmel xtals. Once you get the xtals reset stats to Int/agi/crt. Only give enough agi to raise evade over 450 with buffs and himmel xtals in. The more base atk the greater the Backstab so Int must be high. You can neglect crt quite alot. I would find it a waste to reset stats when AGI/INT/CRT is a workable build from scratch. Save your reset book for when you decide to discard AGI and go full INT/CRT/DEX or STR.
|
|
|
Post by LNReader on Mar 19, 2014 9:13:36 GMT
For pure backstab spaming build,mainly for killing boss
I should max int/dex rest CRT
Since backstab dmg base on crit dmg, n chance to 2xDmg depent on CRT not crit rate right?if it true then isnt good to use suigetsu xtal? Or there any better xtal out there?(Pure BS build)
|
|
Flarius
Member
Community Contributor
What do people do with all the extra time they save by writing "K" instead of "OK"?
|
Post by Flarius on Mar 19, 2014 11:34:48 GMT
For pure backstab spaming build,mainly for killing boss I should max int/dex rest CRT Since backstab dmg base on crit dmg, n chance to 2xDmg depent on CRT not crit rate right?if it true then isnt good to use suigetsu xtal? Or there any better xtal out there?(Pure BS build) actually double backstab depends on double atk rate from crt,which is obtainable when u raise ur crt rate, ive tested it out with 90 crt + 4 aello xtals, the double backstab come out often thus prove that its affected by double atk rate and not crt value alone. suigetsu xtal is one xtal that u should not use,even it raise base atk high, skills like hawkeye and execute gives u bonus crt and crt damage. its a waste if u didnt get decent crt since it ups ur dmg greatly and yes, when doin double backstab, your stab dmg is doubled, so more dmg by focusing crt rather than dex. for my own opinion, both crt and dex should be close to each other. lastly, dex type assassins is specially build for this skill. Shadow Assault (PT range attack) Arcane to surprise by utilizing the shadow walk. To carry out a physical attack by ATK, the defense ignored attack by MATK SLv1 MP99 quest skill acquisition trial [!] (Lv260) clear ※ Maximum number of targets: two-body shadow walk during the attack while sneak in the back of the enemy can only be used when throwing equipment with max int and high dex, u gonna get high matk, thus maxing the dmg of this skill, and with short skill delay, u can cast shadow walk+ shadow assault+backstab simultaneously.just for heads up.(lvl 260 ._.)
|
|
|
Post by LNReader on Mar 19, 2014 11:46:28 GMT
Soo crit rate affect double backstab .. I should stick to bc,ganei,Plaz or critical 2..
Im kinda confuse bout backstab rate.. Backstab rate= double atk rate soo how come it affect by critical rate? Suigetsu -30 critical rate.. From what i read in wiki every 9CRT= +1% double atk rate N 3CRT=1crit rate(pretty sure bout double atk rate not affect by critical rate but CRT itself cuz i got toon lvl 76 agi crt(140 agi rest crt) killing bc until 102 that using 4x critical 2 n t.garbIII. i start replace it with bc/sharpness every 6 lvl n i can see my double atk proc alot when near 100).
Ill try to test the backstab rate when my toon hit 140 (Lvl104 right now..gonna be a while x.x) with 4x suigetsu
|
|
|
Post by Almas on Mar 23, 2014 13:01:14 GMT
Stick to a Agi/crt build until you can get 3 himmel xtals. Once you get the xtals reset stats to Int/agi/crt. Only give enough agi to raise evade over 450 with buffs and himmel xtals in. The more base atk the greater the Backstab so Int must be high. You can neglect crt quite alot. I would find it a waste to reset stats when AGI/INT/CRT is a workable build from scratch. Save your reset book for when you decide to discard AGI and go full INT/CRT/DEX or STR. May I know what a workable agi/int/crit is? I have already maxed agi. O.o
|
|