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Post by super n00b on Jul 16, 2014 15:43:36 GMT
No one's saying it's not worth "it", just that other stats are more beneficial to the class... looks like you've already been smoking something  "It'll only help of you max dex, which is a waste for nail ninja." - Kafuka Clearly... While this was not directed towards you Jeancarlo... It does show that there are some that think it's not "worth it".
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 16, 2014 15:48:01 GMT
Ok, so I decided to check out my new duds even though I'm still a cleric.
Koda2 Ganei
SchwartzUp Ganei
H Helm Up Ganei
Atleta Ring ns
HP was 1/1 yay
I switched Atleta to Sea Horse bangle, and HP was still 1/1 yay (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP)
Now here's the thing, and I don't know why this is happening
I switched my Schwartz up with M Garb (using it as I leech off my HW) and my Hp went from 1/1 to 347/347??? Why did I get max hp immediately? Shouldnt it be 1/347? Even with my Bless2 buff, each tick is only about 80 hp...
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Post by super n00b on Jul 16, 2014 15:52:50 GMT
Ok, so I decided to check out my new duds even though I'm still a cleric. Koda2 Ganei SchwartzUp Ganei H Helm Up Ganei Atleta Ring ns HP was 1/1 yay I switched Atleta to Sea Horse bangle, and HP was still 1/1 yay (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP) Now here's the thing, and I don't know why this is happening I switched my Schwartz up with M Garb (using it as I leech off my HW) and my Hp went from 1/1 to 347/347??? Why did I get max hp immediately? Shouldnt it be 1/347? Even with my Bless2 buff, each tick is only about 80 hp...
You said > (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP) But S Bangle is MP Recovery-110% & HP+1500
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 16, 2014 15:55:41 GMT
Ok, so I decided to check out my new duds even though I'm still a cleric. Koda2 Ganei SchwartzUp Ganei H Helm Up Ganei Atleta Ring ns HP was 1/1 yay I switched Atleta to Sea Horse bangle, and HP was still 1/1 yay (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP) Now here's the thing, and I don't know why this is happening I switched my Schwartz up with M Garb (using it as I leech off my HW) and my Hp went from 1/1 to 347/347??? Why did I get max hp immediately? Shouldnt it be 1/347? Even with my Bless2 buff, each tick is only about 80 hp...
You said > (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP) But S Bangle is MP Recovery-110% & HP+1500
Sorry maybe didn't phrase that properly. I meant the additional HP from Bangle is subject to the combined -110%HP from my 3 ganeis (-90%) and schwartz up (-20%). 100000 hp - 110% = 1 HP Adding 1B HP would still yield 1 HP. |
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Post by super n00b on Jul 16, 2014 16:18:39 GMT
o.o
You said > (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP) But S Bangle is MP Recovery-110% & HP+1500
Sorry maybe didn't phrase that properly. I meant the additional HP from Bangle is subject to the combined -110%HP from my 3 ganeis (-90%) and schwartz up (-20%). 100000 hp - 110% = 1 HP Adding 1B HP would still yield 1 HP.
Bless causes all stats to rise.
Wearing Koda 2 Ganei, Schwartz Up Ganei, H Helm Up Ganei, Atleta Ring ns is -110% hp already so when you switched your atleta ring to s bangle it didn't have much effect. But when you switched Schwartz up ganei to m garb, you lost that -110% hp and it went to -60% hp instead.
^I think that's right but I;m not completely sure..
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 16, 2014 16:30:46 GMT
Sorry maybe didn't phrase that properly. I meant the additional HP from Bangle is subject to the combined -110%HP from my 3 ganeis (-90%) and schwartz up (-20%). 100000 hp - 110% = 1 HP Adding 1B HP would still yield 1 HP.
Bless causes all stats to rise.
Wearing Koda 2 Ganei, Schwartz Up Ganei, H Helm Up Ganei, Atleta Ring ns is -110% hp already so when you switched your atleta ring to s bangle it didn't have much effect. But when you switched Schwartz up ganei to m garb, you lost that -110% hp and it went to -60% hp instead.
^I think that's right but I;m not completely sure..
That is correct; however, shouldn't my Actual HP (Not Max HP) been at 1/XXX? Instead my Actual HP was at Max Say I have 3000 Base HP. With my gear @ -110%, my HP is 1/1 (Max HP being 1) Once I removed SchwartzUp Ganei, shouldn't my HP have been 1/1200? Instead, both my Actual HP and Max HP went up, basically leaving me with Full hp (1200/1200 in this example). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 16:37:58 GMT
Ok, so I decided to check out my new duds even though I'm still a cleric. Koda2 Ganei SchwartzUp Ganei H Helm Up Ganei Atleta Ring ns HP was 1/1 yay I switched Atleta to Sea Horse bangle, and HP was still 1/1 yay (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP) Now here's the thing, and I don't know why this is happening I switched my Schwartz up with M Garb (using it as I leech off my HW) and my Hp went from 1/1 to 347/347??? Why did I get max hp immediately? Shouldnt it be 1/347? Even with my Bless2 buff, each tick is only about 80 hp... schwartz up ganei is -50% hp if u switch is with m garb u ve -60% left with only koda ganei n h helm ganei.. so thats it |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 16, 2014 16:40:03 GMT
Ok, so I decided to check out my new duds even though I'm still a cleric. Koda2 Ganei SchwartzUp Ganei H Helm Up Ganei Atleta Ring ns HP was 1/1 yay I switched Atleta to Sea Horse bangle, and HP was still 1/1 yay (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP) Now here's the thing, and I don't know why this is happening I switched my Schwartz up with M Garb (using it as I leech off my HW) and my Hp went from 1/1 to 347/347??? Why did I get max hp immediately? Shouldnt it be 1/347? Even with my Bless2 buff, each tick is only about 80 hp... schwartz up ganei is -50% hp if u switch is with m garb u ve -60% left with only koda ganei n h helm ganei.. so thats it I know, but shouldn't my ACTUAL HP still be at 1? Instead, it was showing as 347/347 (100% of max) |
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Post by kafuka on Jul 16, 2014 16:42:00 GMT
Ok, so I decided to check out my new duds even though I'm still a cleric. Koda2 Ganei SchwartzUp Ganei H Helm Up Ganei Atleta Ring ns HP was 1/1 yay I switched Atleta to Sea Horse bangle, and HP was still 1/1 yay (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP) Now here's the thing, and I don't know why this is happening I switched my Schwartz up with M Garb (using it as I leech off my HW) and my Hp went from 1/1 to 347/347??? Why did I get max hp immediately? Shouldnt it be 1/347? Even with my Bless2 buff, each tick is only about 80 hp... Did you switch with shortcuts? If you switch in menues with 347 hp to ganei then back to m.garb then hp will go right back up Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 16, 2014 16:43:32 GMT
Ok, so I decided to check out my new duds even though I'm still a cleric. Koda2 Ganei SchwartzUp Ganei H Helm Up Ganei Atleta Ring ns HP was 1/1 yay I switched Atleta to Sea Horse bangle, and HP was still 1/1 yay (since the HP from bangle is also under the -110% HP) Now here's the thing, and I don't know why this is happening I switched my Schwartz up with M Garb (using it as I leech off my HW) and my Hp went from 1/1 to 347/347??? Why did I get max hp immediately? Shouldnt it be 1/347? Even with my Bless2 buff, each tick is only about 80 hp... Did you switch with shortcuts? If you switch in menues with 347 hp to ganei then back to m.garb then hp will go right back up Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 No, I didn't set the shortcuts yet (was just goofing off). So that's whats causing my HP to remain at max??? That seems bizarre to say the least, lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 16:44:04 GMT
schwartz up ganei is -50% hp if u switch is with m garb u ve -60% left with only koda ganei n h helm ganei.. so thats it I know, but shouldn't my ACTUAL HP still be at 1? Instead, it was showing as 347/347 (100% of max) switch back to schwartz ganei n if u still ve 347 idk whuts wrong lol.. |
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Post by kafuka on Jul 16, 2014 16:47:13 GMT
Did you switch with shortcuts? If you switch in menues with 347 hp to ganei then back to m.garb then hp will go right back up Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 No, I didn't set the shortcuts yet (was just goofing off). So that's whats causing my HP to remain at max??? That seems bizarre to say the least, lol Yeah. I'd guess it's so people don't look at equips then have to wait to heal after switching back. If you exit the menu after switching it'll save your mp and hp attack and whatever else the equipment changes. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 16, 2014 17:21:50 GMT
No, I didn't set the shortcuts yet (was just goofing off). So that's whats causing my HP to remain at max??? That seems bizarre to say the least, lol Yeah. I'd guess it's so people don't look at equips then have to wait to heal after switching back. If you exit the menu after switching it'll save your mp and hp attack and whatever else the equipment changes. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Thanks! Will try again tonight, but this time with shortcuts, lol |
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Post by skene on Jul 16, 2014 22:48:20 GMT
I don't have a nin (yet  ) but I know my HW doesn't see any difference in cooldown on EQ and she just capped dex. CAST time has gone down quite a bit, but cool down not so much (maybe that 1 sec difference, but I'll take your word for it lol). Well, let's close this part of the thread. Don't need to belabor the issue. Thank you All for All the responses so far! ******************* Then Jean... what you should do is use steflys book to reset your stats and don't add in dex. (save 255 stat points to put it back in) Yes casting time is reduced as well as skill delay (while skill delay will not be brought down below that 1 second... You probably forgot how long it takes for cast/cooldown without it). If you want to reduce it further on your HW, then you would need to use equipment or ability to further reduce down the recovery of the spell cast. I'm not even at full dex on my HW (230) or on my Ninja (30) Assassin (53 and can out cast my ninja). But I remember how god awful it was being under 100 dex. |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 16, 2014 23:24:46 GMT
Well, let's close this part of the thread. Don't need to belabor the issue. Then Jean... what you should do is use steflys book to reset your stats and don't add in dex. (save 255 stat points to put it back in) Yes casting time is reduced as well as skill delay (while skill delay will not be brought down below that 1 second... You probably forgot how long it takes for cast/cooldown without it). If you want to reduce it further on your HW, then you would need to use equipment or ability to further reduce down the recovery of the spell cast. I'm not even at full dex on my HW (230) or on my Ninja (30) Assassin (53 and can out cast my ninja). But I remember how god awful it was being under 100 dex. Like I said... |
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) but I know my HW doesn't see any difference in cooldown on EQ and she just capped dex. CAST time has gone down quite a bit, but cool down not so much (maybe that 1 sec difference, but I'll take your word for it lol).