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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 15, 2014 18:15:03 GMT
Next questions: Third stat, what should I shoot for? Been talking to the higher level Nins in our guild and Dex was brought up, mainly for the cast duration esp for Desp Move. Str for more Atk. Also, is there a listing of NIN skills, with (English) descriptions? Like what is Wild Dance? Currently L88 Cleric with 180 CRT and working on getting 140 AGI before adding more to CRIT (until max). Good path? Or should I max AGI first, esp for EVA? P.S. I am shooting for doing the Nin quest around 120 or even 140, and will continue on the Monk path in the meantime. He's mostly leeching off my HW. You really only need dex if you're a bow or magic ninja because the cast speed for the magic users spells are slow. If anything you want something with -cool down because dance of clone has a long cool down when you have 9 clones. Desperate move and dance have like 0 cast time. I'm doing str, currently 140 something I think at level 214. Wild dance is dance of clones, which increases in damage the more clones you have. I don't know about a list of skills though. Also, don't bother getting the skill at 140 that isn't dance of clone because it's just for int ninjas. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Ah, interesting. Thank you, esp about the magic nin skills, lol. I was actually thinking about those last night (liek what the F was I gonna do with them with 1 Int ) So basically skill delay gear/xtals to reduce CD of DoC and Desp Move?
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Post by kafuka on Jul 15, 2014 18:24:47 GMT
You really only need dex if you're a bow or magic ninja because the cast speed for the magic users spells are slow. If anything you want something with -cool down because dance of clone has a long cool down when you have 9 clones. Desperate move and dance have like 0 cast time. I'm doing str, currently 140 something I think at level 214. Wild dance is dance of clones, which increases in damage the more clones you have. I don't know about a list of skills though. Also, don't bother getting the skill at 140 that isn't dance of clone because it's just for int ninjas. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Ah, interesting. Thank you, esp about the magic nin skills, lol. I was actually thinking about those last night (liek what the F was I gonna do with them with 1 Int ) So basically skill delay gear/xtals to reduce CD of DoC and Desp Move? You're welcome. I wasted some time getting the fire, or maybe lightning one for no reason. And yep, it can really help you out. Even -1 second will come in handy. Lots of ninjas use d6 exe up for that. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 15, 2014 18:41:07 GMT
Ah, interesting. Thank you, esp about the magic nin skills, lol. I was actually thinking about those last night (liek what the F was I gonna do with them with 1 Int ) So basically skill delay gear/xtals to reduce CD of DoC and Desp Move? You're welcome. I wasted some time getting the fire, or maybe lightning one for no reason. And yep, it can really help you out. Even -1 second will come in handy. Lots of ninjas use d6 exe up for that. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 19:00:34 GMT
Next questions: Third stat, what should I shoot for? Been talking to the higher level Nins in our guild and Dex was brought up, mainly for the cast duration esp for Desp Move. Str for more Atk. Also, is there a listing of NIN skills, with (English) descriptions? Like what is Wild Dance? Currently L88 Cleric with 180 CRT and working on getting 140 AGI before adding more to CRIT (until max). Good path? Or should I max AGI first, esp for EVA? P.S. I am shooting for doing the Nin quest around 120 or even 140, and will continue on the Monk path in the meantime. He's mostly leeching off my HW. 3rd stat: i prefer str myself for more damage but dex will be fun for super quick cool down n u can spam dance all the time List of ninja skills available in English version afaik r: lv140 : dance of clones lv1~ its damage output depends on thr number of clones u've lv140 : raiton no jutsu lv2 ~ magic ninja skill (lol didnt bother to check em) lv160 : kaiton no jutsu lv2 ~ magic ninja skill for skill thats far as i know.. i think they havent added 180 skil yet and yes u ve high crt now u should focus on maxin agi changin to ninja at 140+ is better coz u can solo mio easily Goodluck
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 15, 2014 19:05:52 GMT
Next questions: Third stat, what should I shoot for? Been talking to the higher level Nins in our guild and Dex was brought up, mainly for the cast duration esp for Desp Move. Str for more Atk. Also, is there a listing of NIN skills, with (English) descriptions? Like what is Wild Dance? Currently L88 Cleric with 180 CRT and working on getting 140 AGI before adding more to CRIT (until max). Good path? Or should I max AGI first, esp for EVA? P.S. I am shooting for doing the Nin quest around 120 or even 140, and will continue on the Monk path in the meantime. He's mostly leeching off my HW. 3rd stat: i prefer str myself for more damage but dex will be fun for super quick cool down n u can spam dance all the time List of ninja skills available in English version afaik r: lv140 : dance of clones lv1~ its damage output depends on thr number of clones u've lv140 : raiton no jutsu lv2 ~ magic ninja skill (lol didnt bother to check em) lv160 : kaiton no jutsu lv2 ~ magic ninja skill for skill thats far as i know.. i think they havent added 180 skil yet and yes u ve high crt now u should focus on maxin agi changin to ninja at 140+ is better coz u can solo mio easily Goodluck That's the thing; dex does Not affect skill cooldown; it only affects Casting speed. So if DoC or DM doesn't have any (or very small) cast time, dex won't really help?
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Post by kafuka on Jul 15, 2014 19:14:21 GMT
3rd stat: i prefer str myself for more damage but dex will be fun for super quick cool down n u can spam dance all the time List of ninja skills available in English version afaik r: lv140 : dance of clones lv1~ its damage output depends on thr number of clones u've lv140 : raiton no jutsu lv2 ~ magic ninja skill (lol didnt bother to check em) lv160 : kaiton no jutsu lv2 ~ magic ninja skill for skill thats far as i know.. i think they havent added 180 skil yet and yes u ve high crt now u should focus on maxin agi changin to ninja at 140+ is better coz u can solo mio easily Goodluck That's the thing; dex does Not affect skill cooldown; it only affects Casting speed. So if DoC or DM doesn't have any (or very small) cast time, dex won't really help? It'll only help of you max dex, which is a waste for nail ninja. It adds -1 second cool down. You wouldn't even be able to max it for a long time anyway Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 19:17:20 GMT
3rd stat: i prefer str myself for more damage but dex will be fun for super quick cool down n u can spam dance all the time List of ninja skills available in English version afaik r: lv140 : dance of clones lv1~ its damage output depends on thr number of clones u've lv140 : raiton no jutsu lv2 ~ magic ninja skill (lol didnt bother to check em) lv160 : kaiton no jutsu lv2 ~ magic ninja skill for skill thats far as i know.. i think they havent added 180 skil yet and yes u ve high crt now u should focus on maxin agi changin to ninja at 140+ is better coz u can solo mio easily Goodluck That's the thing; dex does Not affect skill cooldown; it only affects Casting speed. So if DoC or DM doesn't have any (or very small) cast time, dex won't really help? bout dex it effects skill delay for bushin no justsu n desperate move, u can make fast clone as one got destroyed.. bout doc skill cool dowm im not sure myself
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 15, 2014 19:23:19 GMT
It sounds like Dex is still pretty bad over all, at least a distant 4th after STR?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 19:26:54 GMT
yup go for all out damage... goodluck
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Post by skene on Jul 15, 2014 19:40:00 GMT
Even a little dex helps with cool down between DOC... If you keep 0 dex it will take a long time for that cool down to happen before you can do it again. So even if you do not end up maxing dex, you should add... You will see the difference between 0 and 20... and more so if you are at least 50 dex. So to say dex isn't worth it, I would like you to pass whatever you are smoking.
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 15, 2014 20:48:32 GMT
Even a little dex helps with cool down between DOC... If you keep 0 dex it will take a long time for that cool down to happen before you can do it again. So even if you do not end up maxing dex, you should add... You will see the difference between 0 and 20... and more so if you are at least 50 dex. So to say dex isn't worth it, I would like you to pass whatever you are smoking. No one's saying it's not worth "it", just that other stats are more beneficial to the class... looks like you've already been smoking something
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Post by skene on Jul 15, 2014 21:13:21 GMT
Even a little dex helps with cool down between DOC... If you keep 0 dex it will take a long time for that cool down to happen before you can do it again. So even if you do not end up maxing dex, you should add... You will see the difference between 0 and 20... and more so if you are at least 50 dex. So to say dex isn't worth it, I would like you to pass whatever you are smoking. No one's saying it's not worth "it", just that other stats are more beneficial to the class... looks like you've already been smoking something "It'll only help of you max dex, which is a waste for nail ninja." - Kafuka Clearly... While this was not directed towards you Jeancarlo... It does show that there are some that think it's not "worth it".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 9:37:03 GMT
dont seem to see much difference with 20 dex.. ive to like place a stopwatch near me n look closely on the skill delay but meh.. nobody aint got time for that
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Post by kafuka on Jul 16, 2014 15:17:17 GMT
dont seem to see much difference with 20 dex.. ive to like place a stopwatch near me n look closely on the skill delay but meh.. nobody aint got time for that Because dex doesn't effect delay until max, at least that's what everyone says. It effects cast speed which is something agi crit ninja doesn't care about. Maybe skene doesn't have a ninja? Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
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Post by Jeancarlo on Jul 16, 2014 15:43:30 GMT
dont seem to see much difference with 20 dex.. ive to like place a stopwatch near me n look closely on the skill delay but meh.. nobody aint got time for that Because dex doesn't effect delay until max, at least that's what everyone says. It effects cast speed which is something agi crit ninja doesn't care about. Maybe skene doesn't have a ninja? Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 I don't have a nin (yet ) but I know my HW doesn't see any difference in cooldown on EQ and she just capped dex. CAST time has gone down quite a bit, but cool down not so much (maybe that 1 sec difference, but I'll take your word for it lol). Well, let's close this part of the thread. Don't need to belabor the issue. Thank you All for All the responses so far! *******************
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