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Post by Crysta| on Feb 10, 2018 2:43:16 GMT
Sorry if this seems to be a rhetorical question.
Why do new players think "x" class is going to better than "y" class. X = alt, Y = main (or first)
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Post by kacang on Feb 10, 2018 3:16:25 GMT
I guess they are not satisfied by playing the first char then moving on to second char that they loved playing with.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Feb 10, 2018 3:48:46 GMT
Not all new player like that. When I first time plays iruna, my first char is ench. She is my main until now and I think ench is better for my playstle.
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Post by MITS:Servant on Feb 10, 2018 7:36:05 GMT
Because the Grass is always greener on the other side.
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Post by Crysta| on Feb 12, 2018 2:13:17 GMT
Allow me to go more into detail, I realize not all newbie will fit this description. I see more often than not, a newbie will make several alts, each time expecting the newest alt to be 'the answer' to their freedom from newbdom.
Spoiler alert; this is never the case because with each alt made they are streching their resources thinner. I guess the question here is who(or what) is leading newbies to believe 5 partially gear & under leveled characters is better than 1 full focused char?
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Post by Makina Yuki on Feb 12, 2018 4:01:37 GMT
Because they saw how op high level & fully geared job or someone that says x class is easier than y class.
For example. *Newbie: I want make assasins *Player x: Dont make assasins, they hard to level and survival is low, just make ninja they had high survival and can dealt 2m damage. *Newbie: Wow seriously!? Ninja Im commin
Player x give incomplete information because ninja vulnerable against most aliment, need 9 sec delay for its 2m damage skill, and need pots almost all time. The result, newbie didnt like with his/her class because it not as good as he/she think, then he/she make another alt with limited resources.
It will be different if player x give right information to newbie about ninja weakness or any other stuff. So, at least he/she will not dissapointed about his/her class, eventhough he/she choose ninja.
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Post by Ravitox on Feb 12, 2018 8:16:33 GMT
Crysta|Perhaps it is just the culture of Iruna for old players to one-up each other's classes. Sins that have great damage won't tell you how much they die on regular mobs 20 levels below them. Bishops that spam resu won't tell how much they need a damager to spam it on, how useless and slow they are alone without a full damage or counter set. Samurais that are great soloers rarely let you know how much they either drift off to sleep grinding alone, or can never seem to fill their black hole of an mp bar with a billion potions and an mp healer. High Wizards that can do everything like tank, dps, heal, don't describe how difficult it is to get well geared before 300. Claw ninjas won't tell you how slow their grind is, and how weak and useless they are to ailments in boss farms after 200 or so. Paladins, whether they be KO, Guardian Spam, or An invincible tank, won't tell you how many millions they spend on potions. Etcetera...etcetera. Perhaps we ought to encourage newbies to discover their own playstyle? It may make then more committed to their chosen job.
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Post by Maxwello on Feb 13, 2018 11:24:15 GMT
Claw ninja here. Man I tell ya status ailments make things soo difficult. We really aren't op and really do not require nerfing. If a boss sneezes at us before our pf buffed doc hits it gets messed up and we die. Nobody likes us and if I don't pay attention a chako can one hit me.
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Post by Magic Sheep on Feb 13, 2018 16:33:48 GMT
~Toram player play Iruna for the 1st time* Newbie : What year is it? Over capped end-game pro with all 2s chilling at fort bailune : It's the Golden age. Noo...Newbie : That explains the inflation.
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Post by bikini on Feb 13, 2018 17:03:03 GMT
i made an alt for support,
hw and bish made good team for duo, than capped both and start other jobs even news, example servant and necro.
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Post by toru on Feb 14, 2018 13:01:19 GMT
Claw ninja here. Man I tell ya status ailments make things soo difficult. We really aren't op and really do not require nerfing. If a boss sneezes at us before our pf buffed doc hits it gets messed up and we die. Nobody likes us and if I don't pay attention a chako can one hit me. Ninja must be nerf due to their ridiculous tank system. Ive read JP balance will try to make u choose if wanna more survival or want more dmg instead
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Post by Maxwello on Feb 14, 2018 13:23:37 GMT
Claw ninja here. Man I tell ya status ailments make things soo difficult. We really aren't op and really do not require nerfing. If a boss sneezes at us before our pf buffed doc hits it gets messed up and we die. Nobody likes us and if I don't pay attention a chako can one hit me. Ninja must be nerf due to their ridiculous tank system. Ive read JP balance will try to make u choose if wanna more survival or want more dmg instead What ridiculous tank system?
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Post by Zycron on Feb 14, 2018 13:28:41 GMT
I don't understand either literally 1 status effect and ninjas are not tanks. Seems people don't really know that don't play ninjas ya we can solo mq so can almost every other class just seems ninjas got hated becuase they get doc at a low level so alot of people made them and main them but honestly at 300+ they are no where near top of list for newer boss soloabliltiy or ease doing so
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Post by Makina Yuki on Feb 14, 2018 14:07:15 GMT
toru Tank = "can survive and keep entire party hate so enemies will target you constantly" Pally can tank because they had guardian skill (best tanker in game). Gladi can become good tanker with future skill. Bk has many skill to attract hate (2nd best tanker after pally). Even ench can use magic blade or its auto (thanks to their ridiculous autoskill rate) to tank boss, proven at mamonea (test by myself xD). What about ninja? None. Even sk is not as good as magic blade or ench auto to attract hate. If you think clone is Op, try do meelis & leviam as ninja. You will be easily killed .-.
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Post by Makina Yuki on Feb 14, 2018 14:15:33 GMT
For me, best defensive system (aside bish with ressu spam :v) is gladiator with their Solid skin and bloodthrist. Solid skin create 2nd layer hp bar and bloodthrist can heal hp & mp by attack (either via skill / normal attack). Not mention tempest that (I heard) increase evasion. Their survival has proven in most recent boss.
So, why ppl still think that ninja has best survival in game? xD
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