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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 10:15:34 GMT
Whether the thread exists or not, you'll still sell your goods at your price or lower (upon your decision) No need to go far for this and argue. I may agree with the other things you've mentioned ironmaiden about the efforts we and struggles we took just to level prod. That deserves a good pricing as well and everyone knows it and I think its a common knowledge. But, about the scam thing even tho the OP (In my opinion didn't covered all the possible factors for the pricing of production equips) I may agree with him that he did really mentioned his conditions about his free "slightly" prod service or whatever you want to call it so its up to the player itself if he/she will accept the terms of it. Just like when we did accept the terms of conditions when we started iruna (altho most people won't bother to read it) But, well about the topic, I can't say anything more. I given out my opinion already and I still keep selling my goods according to my price. So NO PROBLEM. Krish (Retired Player) I hope I can earn like that I'm not even closer with your stated value.
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☆Rinリン
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Post by ☆Rinリン on Aug 13, 2017 11:29:56 GMT
They can set their price, they made using their own prod AND their own mats that they worked for in months. They deserve it and they don't care if you anyone else thinks otherwise.
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Post by nic123 on Aug 14, 2017 19:47:03 GMT
i love how he is saying he will farm boss xtals lol... isnt it basically the same concept? lets say you can oneshot raton, why dont u then sell me xtals for 5m each since u can oneshot, u said u get 2 rares every stack or so, the vaccines u need cost around 300-500k a stack,
by this guys logic im expecting some cheap xtals outta him lol.
anyway: buying things early just means you want to test them early on, i still havent bought f.a.w or even sauro 2, im waiting in price decline.
there is a difference between saying dont buy our equipment because they are op, and dont buy new equips unless you are in a rush.
personally if i want something really bad and quick i dont mind paying the extra few 100m, its just a game.
@krish, u made bank qwq, i aint even made a 10th of that lol
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Eaysley
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"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Aug 14, 2017 22:02:26 GMT
i love how he is saying he will farm boss xtals lol... isnt it basically the same concept? lets say you can oneshot raton, why dont u then sell me xtals for 5m each since u can oneshot, u said u get 2 rares every stack or so, the vaccines u need cost around 300-500k a stack, by this guys logic im expecting some cheap xtals outta him lol. anyway: buying things early just means you want to test them early on, i still havent bought f.a.w or even sauro 2, im waiting in price decline. there is a difference between saying dont buy our equipment because they are op, and dont buy new equips unless you are in a rush. personally if i want something really bad and quick i dont mind paying the extra few 100m, its just a game. @krish, u made bank qwq, i aint even made a 10th of that lol You can argue and try to discredit me all you want but it cannot change the fact that my OP is and was correct. Check the prices of the items now compared to what their price is in the first few days. Clearly those who bought the items too soon overpaid. You getting triggered for the first few days is cute. Now, it's just annoying and you're getting too hurt over a game.
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Aug 14, 2017 22:08:16 GMT
i love how he is saying he will farm boss xtals lol... isnt it basically the same concept? lets say you can oneshot raton, why dont u then sell me xtals for 5m each since u can oneshot, u said u get 2 rares every stack or so, the vaccines u need cost around 300-500k a stack, by this guys logic im expecting some cheap xtals outta him lol. anyway: buying things early just means you want to test them early on, i still havent bought f.a.w or even sauro 2, im waiting in price decline. there is a difference between saying dont buy our equipment because they are op, and dont buy new equips unless you are in a rush. personally if i want something really bad and quick i dont mind paying the extra few 100m, its just a game. @krish, u made bank qwq, i aint even made a 10th of that lol The logic used was the price of farm service per stack of kills. Not chance. When you kill mobs, you can count them. When you win crytals, it's chance. Crystal prices are set by the market - it stabilizes because they are famed by many. While production equips are set by a few produces until supply and demand kicks in - which is the point of my advice to players to wait out prices. Just like how crystal prices stabilize. Now, if players want to overpay just to be an early bird, sure. Just putting it out there that they can buy these stuff for less if they wait. The thing is you take this advice as an attack to producers when I just wanted to tell players to save spina. It's not an attack or attempt to disregard producer's efforts nor wanting to stir a huge argument. I don't really care if you do not get it. Also with the logic, I'm sorry you're too triggered to get it. Lol Ps. I love how you keep talking sht about me in 3rd person as if you do not want me to reply. I could insult you too but you're already insulting yourself by sounding really dumb.
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Post by nic123 on Aug 15, 2017 12:00:46 GMT
i love how he is saying he will farm boss xtals lol... isnt it basically the same concept? lets say you can oneshot raton, why dont u then sell me xtals for 5m each since u can oneshot, u said u get 2 rares every stack or so, the vaccines u need cost around 300-500k a stack, by this guys logic im expecting some cheap xtals outta him lol. anyway: buying things early just means you want to test them early on, i still havent bought f.a.w or even sauro 2, im waiting in price decline. there is a difference between saying dont buy our equipment because they are op, and dont buy new equips unless you are in a rush. personally if i want something really bad and quick i dont mind paying the extra few 100m, its just a game. @krish, u made bank qwq, i aint even made a 10th of that lol The logic used was the price of farm service per stack of kills. Not chance. When you kill mobs, you can count them. When you win crytals, it's chance. Crystal prices are set by the market - it stabilizes because they are famed by many. While production equips are set by a few produces until supply and demand kicks in - which is the point of my advice to players to wait out prices. Just like how crystal prices stabilize. Now, if players want to overpay just to be an early bird, sure. Just putting it out there that they can buy these stuff for less if they wait. The thing is you take this advice as an attack to producers when I just wanted to tell players to save spina. It's not an attack or attempt to disregard producer's efforts nor wanting to stir a huge argument. I don't really care if you do not get it. Also with the logic, I'm sorry you're too triggered to get it. Lol Ps. I love how you keep talking sht about me in 3rd person as if you do not want me to reply. I could insult you too but you're already insulting yourself by sounding really dumb. Ofc i dont want u to reply, ur replys are ignorant, its like u just started the game yesterday. Ive seen u around for a while i did not expect this type of thread out of u. What about the rares i have to farm in order to get mats, isnt that chance? ? Or the chance for slotted out of production, isnt that chance? ?? Everyone is entitled to thier opinion and most people are on our side. When a new xtal is introduced like sauro 2 xtal it was 1b+, now its 700-800m Its the same thing with prod. Please act like u were playing for years and not days. I mean ur logic totally does not account for chance or time since u just said it cost us x amount to make it and we are selling it for y amount. So im 100% sure u cud farm bosses that cost u little to nothing to farm, then why not sell xtals or rares for what it cost u, and sell it that amount . If you still dont get what you said wrong, you are beyond our help
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Post by nic123 on Aug 15, 2017 12:02:41 GMT
@any admin, this thread is gettin a bit bitter, everyone stated feelings and opinions, shut whenever u guys feel neccesary
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Aug 15, 2017 12:14:36 GMT
The logic used was the price of farm service per stack of kills. Not chance. When you kill mobs, you can count them. When you win crytals, it's chance. Crystal prices are set by the market - it stabilizes because they are famed by many. While production equips are set by a few produces until supply and demand kicks in - which is the point of my advice to players to wait out prices. Just like how crystal prices stabilize. Now, if players want to overpay just to be an early bird, sure. Just putting it out there that they can buy these stuff for less if they wait. The thing is you take this advice as an attack to producers when I just wanted to tell players to save spina. It's not an attack or attempt to disregard producer's efforts nor wanting to stir a huge argument. I don't really care if you do not get it. Also with the logic, I'm sorry you're too triggered to get it. Lol Ps. I love how you keep talking sht about me in 3rd person as if you do not want me to reply. I could insult you too but you're already insulting yourself by sounding really dumb. Ofc i dont want u to reply, ur replys are ignorant, its like u just started the game yesterday. Ive seen u around for a while i did not expect this type of thread out of u. What about the rares i have to farm in order to get mats, isnt that chance? ? Or the chance for slotted out of production, isnt that chance? ?? Everyone is entitled to thier opinion and most people are on our side. When a new xtal is introduced like sauro 2 xtal it was 1b+, now its 700-800m Its the same thing with prod. Please act like u were playing for years and not days. I mean ur logic totally does not account for chance or time since u just said it cost us x amount to make it and we are selling it for y amount. So im 100% sure u cud farm bosses that cost u little to nothing to farm, then why not sell xtals or rares for what it cost u, and sell it that amount . If you still dont get what you said wrong, you are beyond our help You are contradicting yourself. You say everyone is entitled to their opinion but you're telling me my opinion is wrong. What is it that you really want to say? Please be consistent. That's true that we are all entitled to our opinions. I think the prices are overpriced based on costs on initial release - was I wrong? Hell no. Check the prices. You even know yourself waiting for prices to stabilize is true. You even compared it to Sauro release (which is true) and made my point more valid than ever. To be clear, I never said nor wanted to discredit the hard work of producers. I just think the items are overpriced. To everyone deciding whether they want to believe the OP or not, it's up to you. I just wanted you to know so you do not overpay for things you can get for less in time. PS. There's no reasoning with you too because you clearly do not understand my last post. PPS. If you want a thread shut down just because you do not agree with it, then you have a bigger problem.
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asteg
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Post by asteg on Aug 15, 2017 13:57:59 GMT
I just thought it was sorta common sense that prices drop after time passes
And easly try to be a little understanding , it would be the same as if someone made a post saying "this is the gimmick this person uses to make Spina and this is how you avoid it"... Which if memory serves correctly is reselling equapmants, and you got as defensive as the people doing prod are getting
And prod peoples, I'm sorta sorry to say but it's kinda a group opinion of people that don't do prod for their Spina that the prices are op, we don't see the effort you put in to make stuff we only see the effort we put in to get Spina to buy the stuff you make, if I can't farm boss a i just farm boss b to get Spina to buy boss A's drop...the same goes to prod, I can't make masamune shinkinky but i can farm Raton to make Spina to get kinky
Conclusion is, don't get offended because someone isn't considerate of how you make Spina, and don't get offended people get offended because everyone reacts the same way when someone is making it harder to make Spina, it would be like farming stuff, stalling it, and those god dam people that put the same price -1 Spina and sell all their stuff then no one wants to buy ur drops because price went from 20m to 5m, if ur reading this screw you seif
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Post by Zensui_X on Aug 15, 2017 14:23:36 GMT
I just thought it was sorta common sense that prices drop after time passes eh eh wrong, event exclusive items!
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Post by arslan on Aug 15, 2017 15:53:49 GMT
lmao this people 😂
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Post by nic123 on Aug 15, 2017 15:57:19 GMT
Ofc i dont want u to reply, ur replys are ignorant, its like u just started the game yesterday. Ive seen u around for a while i did not expect this type of thread out of u. What about the rares i have to farm in order to get mats, isnt that chance? ? Or the chance for slotted out of production, isnt that chance? ?? Everyone is entitled to thier opinion and most people are on our side. When a new xtal is introduced like sauro 2 xtal it was 1b+, now its 700-800m Its the same thing with prod. Please act like u were playing for years and not days. I mean ur logic totally does not account for chance or time since u just said it cost us x amount to make it and we are selling it for y amount. So im 100% sure u cud farm bosses that cost u little to nothing to farm, then why not sell xtals or rares for what it cost u, and sell it that amount . If you still dont get what you said wrong, you are beyond our help You are contradicting yourself. You say everyone is entitled to their opinion but you're telling me my opinion is wrong. What is it that you really want to say? Please be consistent. That's true that we are all entitled to our opinions. I think the prices are overpriced based on costs on initial release - was I wrong? Hell no. Check the prices. You even know yourself waiting for prices to stabilize is true. You even compared it to Sauro release (which is true) and made my point more valid than ever. To be clear, I never said nor wanted to discredit the hard work of producers. I just think the items are overpriced. To everyone deciding whether they want to believe the OP or not, it's up to you. I just wanted you to know so you do not overpay for things you can get for less in time. PS. There's no reasoning with you too because you clearly do not understand my last post. PPS. If you want a thread shut down just because you do not agree with it, then you have a bigger problem. I mean i can say its my opinion that the esrth is flat, doesent make it right lol....... The thread says and i quote "do not buy overpriced prod equipment" u stated mats we needed, and said they costed 7m etc to make, and we are selling em for how much ever. Thats basically saying to hell with our hard work and time, we are op cuz they cost "x" to make em. Thread shut down cuz i dont agree? The "overpriced prod equipment" price has stabilized, why does the thread still need to be open??? To argue more?? I dont really care but eh P.s how do u add the memes at the bottom?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 16:57:35 GMT
Setting aside the issue, what really affects the pricing is the availability of an item and how much demand it has, along with the target buyers and the whole market environment, ofcourse the cost of materials needed is also included. However, not the main deciding factor for what an item would be its total cost.
In the case you have to buy the materials, is it always available? Is the price is always consistent? If not, the producer have no choice but to farm or to hire someone to do it which cost either spina or time, and is also added to the affecting factors in pricing.
Whether the thread has double meaning for others or not. It is not really what determines the total costs of an item.
So, relax. Everyone knows if an item deserves its current price or not. As a seller and buyer we know it already.
Not to mention, we have these "Spend any for convenience" types of people which includes me. When I need something, and its available if I can afford it then why not hit the import button.
We have thousands of players and everyone thinks differently. So again, relax and just respect each other's opinion. Or if can't tell when will be the bout to purchase a sidebox ticket.
Put your item @ X price if you think the price is reasonable then no need to worry.
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Post by blazer on Aug 15, 2017 17:11:28 GMT
seriously guys!!!have a life it's just a game ..you guys have gone too much xx
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Eaysley
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Post by Eaysley on Aug 15, 2017 21:44:31 GMT
You are contradicting yourself. You say everyone is entitled to their opinion but you're telling me my opinion is wrong. What is it that you really want to say? Please be consistent. That's true that we are all entitled to our opinions. I think the prices are overpriced based on costs on initial release - was I wrong? Hell no. Check the prices. You even know yourself waiting for prices to stabilize is true. You even compared it to Sauro release (which is true) and made my point more valid than ever. To be clear, I never said nor wanted to discredit the hard work of producers. I just think the items are overpriced. To everyone deciding whether they want to believe the OP or not, it's up to you. I just wanted you to know so you do not overpay for things you can get for less in time. PS. There's no reasoning with you too because you clearly do not understand my last post. PPS. If you want a thread shut down just because you do not agree with it, then you have a bigger problem. I mean i can say its my opinion that the esrth is flat, doesent make it right lol....... The thread says and i quote "do not buy overpriced prod equipment" u stated mats we needed, and said they costed 7m etc to make, and we are selling em for how much ever. Thats basically saying to hell with our hard work and time, we are op cuz they cost "x" to make em. Thread shut down cuz i dont agree? The "overpriced prod equipment" price has stabilized, why does the thread still need to be open??? To argue more?? I dont really care but eh P.s how do u add the memes at the bottom? Stop putting words in my mouth and assuming. Can't you just take the OP as it is? You assume too much. You are too affected. If you're not guilty of overpricing, then why are you so defensive? The overpricing on newly released isn't an opinion. It's a fact. An item sold for 100mil is overpriced when it will be 20mil in the next couple days. Right or wrong? You refuse to acknowledge this. This is too different to "The earth is flat". It's honestly tiring to reason with your crazy arguments because none of my explanation pierces your thick head. PS. You can't add memes on mobile.
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