Eaysley
Community Contributor 
"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 4, 2017 5:47:39 GMT
They keep on thinking sending random party/group/friend requests is fine.
There's no way in hell I am helping anyone over 240. At 240 you are expected to have all your skills. Get a gdamm pet. Can't beat it? Buy the service. Stop bothering people.
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Post by isntjoaquim on Jul 4, 2017 6:09:59 GMT
The worst problem is all this help with lvling. A lot of Lv100+ "players" who dont even know what a grind/farm is because the only thing they do is sit while the high lv does all the service, and then when they get a lvl where nobody send pt they stop playing because "iruna is very hard"
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Post by dontmindme on Jul 4, 2017 6:44:28 GMT
I don't mind people like that  As the part of the community that does not beg, has common sense and are more sensitive to people's emotions, we should not be affected by them. Beggars are just a little annoying and that's why the blacklist exists. Unlike speedhackers, they do not make us lag or anything. If they quit then too bad, iruna is not the game for them. I was never annoyed by their existence, actually I have fun with them around. (HOW???) My regular grinding spot is the yarde map and my farming spots vary between bosses. If somebody sends me a friend request, I'll put it on later then delete it whenever i feel like it. I'm always in a group when grinding (either with my friends or alone). Then when the PT invite arrives, that's where the fun begins FUN TIME WITH BEGGARS w/ "dontmindme" scenario 1: (intelligence) nub: "Can you help me kill <boss>" / "Can you grind me to <level>" me: I can but I only help intelligent people. me:<difficult question> ex.What is the Earth's mass (5.972x10^24kg), How many square km is the USA (9.8m km^2) nub: <answers correctly> = help scenario 2: (cuteness) nub: "<begging>" me: Are you cute? nub: "yes", "maybe", "no" me:liar, I don't like indecisive people, I only help cute people. scenario 3: (gear) nub "Can you give me gear" me: I could get you <wooden cane> nub: I need good gear me: It is good nub: plsssss me: You don't believe me? fine. |
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♪Sumire
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Summoner new skills pls *-*
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Post by ♪Sumire on Jul 4, 2017 7:10:28 GMT
I always help friends and guildies with mq stuff but when it comes to strangers ...I only help when one of this conditions are achieved.
1. I'm solo farming
2. I'll only help on one boss
3. person who asked help had tried doing it solo
4. change to the server I'm in ..I won't bother changing to needers server
5. can provide Me a tp
7. I can solo bosses till ep3 with a bunch of exceptions rest I'll need a heal to revive since nobody is perfect xD
8. when u noticed no.6 is missing
9-10. if u pay me xD
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 9:24:13 GMT
Unlike speedhackers, they do not make us lag or anything. If they quit then too bad, iruna is not the game for them. I was never annoyed by their existence, actually I have fun with them around. (HOW???)
The only time I have fun with sh players is when they're ninjas and I'm a Minstrel/Cleric. Y'all know how this goes xD.
About the topic, I think it depends on how the person asked. I would help someone who can heal (depends) and doesn't beg. Someone who spams friend invites, mails and party invites is a friggin pain in ze arse. They do not deserve halp.
Edit: moar ways to troll~
{SPOILER: Click to show/hide.}
1. Casting Chakra on a Samurai
2. Susbtituting someone's buffs with their Lv1 versions. (e.g. replacing a Bishop's Divine Bless with Bless Lv1). Not much of a troll tho XD.
3. Casting Reflect (Wizard) on a Gladiator.
4. Using same name buffs on another class (like #1 and #3).
Another edit: I'm sorry. I didn't read your post right u.u disregard the sh thing qwq |
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Post by Maxwello on Jul 4, 2017 10:59:45 GMT
I just had pretty much my first experience of deciding not to help someone when I easily could have. Been farming chelti Them/ do you have white ice snake scale? Them/  Me/ yes Them/ I need 2 pieces Me/ I see Them/ I could have just given them but wtf should I? They would usually have been mailed automatically by time I read 'need 2' but not today apparently..not anymore. |
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Eaysley
Community Contributor
"These violent delights have violent ends."
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Post by Eaysley on Jul 4, 2017 12:08:08 GMT
Maxwello same with those who send random friend requests and say "help mq"and "help mq pls". 1.) I don't think it's right to disrupt someone solo farming. Sending random requests are rude. Also 2) These people need to prepare for their stupid MQs. I sometimes help if they legit need help like a servant or a minstrel or a bishop. But if you're a freaking Lv280 ninja, I'd expect you to kill Shelk on your own. I wish they can make MQs solo only. The story is about the adventurer anyway right? Even the cutscenes are about this legendary adventurer. Also this game badly needs a "turn off" option for friend/party/guild/group invites. That would be so good. I'm not trying to be an elitist high level jerk. I've been a n00b before but I was not rude.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jul 4, 2017 13:19:39 GMT
It won't happen. It goes against human nature on both sides. You could spend hours doing something or you could spend 30 minutes, which do you choose? Also someone asks for help most people will help them because they like to help. In order to fix this problem Asobimo would have to make some changes to the system.
1)Make MQ quests have a level limit, no more rushing MQ at low levels leeching off others to finish it fast. This may also have the effect of having similar leveled people doing the same MQ which is great. That isn't leeching, that is working together(unless said person decides they aren't gonna do anything). Low level players need to be playing with other lower level players in groups.
2)Fix how much EXP people get while in a party with a higher level player. A level 1 character shouldn't get EXP when a level 340 kills a level 300 mob. Makes no sense. Everyone at lower levels just leech. Low level content is devoid of players when in really could still have a lot of players.
3)Improve EXP mobs for lower levels. Maybe add in some better high HP mobs besides Dark Warriors for lower levels. This will make leveling less of a pain at lower levels(specifically 100-120 is a very slow point).
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Post by Mieu~ on Jul 4, 2017 14:27:55 GMT
I'm fine with helping other players with mq as long as: I'm farming the boss they need help to kill I think their mq is currently on that boss (i judge by their lvl) I'm in a good mood to help  but when they beg and spam inv, i wont help them even if in a good mood, they instantly make my mood bad *-* |
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Post by Katatora on Jul 4, 2017 19:26:27 GMT
It depends on the situation. If you accidentally find someone in a boss area, or at least next to it, I guess there's nothing wrong in helping that person.
Now, random people standing in the cities begging for help (let's say, they are in Sofia and ask help to fight Wizaleon, or Sturm for example) when they could perfectly take that time to do some leveling, in this case I think I wouldn't help.
The level limit ManaKhe said is a good idea. It could "force" players to grind levels instead of rush mq. (Come on, leveling can be interesting since you can discover a lot of things and meet nice -or not so nice- people)
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Post by stormnorman15 on Jul 4, 2017 20:00:34 GMT
It won't happen. It goes against human nature on both sides. You could spend hours doing something or you could spend 30 minutes, which do you choose? Also someone asks for help most people will help them because they like to help. In order to fix this problem Asobimo would have to make some changes to the system. 1)Make MQ quests have a level limit, no more rushing MQ at low levels leeching off others to finish it fast. This may also have the effect of having similar leveled people doing the same MQ which is great. That isn't leeching, that is working together(unless said person decides they aren't gonna do anything). Low level players need to be playing with other lower level players in groups. 2)Fix how much EXP people get while in a party with a higher level player. A level 1 character shouldn't get EXP when a level 340 kills a level 300 mob. Makes no sense. Everyone at lower levels just leech. Low level content is devoid of players when in really could still have a lot of players. 3)Improve EXP mobs for lower levels. Maybe add in some better high HP mobs besides Dark Warriors for lower levels. This will make leveling less of a pain at lower levels(specifically 100-120 is a very slow point). interesting way of fixing that issue would mean a level cap for parties wouldn't be needed idk which would work better tho |
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caporal
Member
WHAT DOESN'T KILL ME, GIVES ME EXP
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Post by caporal on Jul 4, 2017 20:29:46 GMT
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Post by bikini on Jul 5, 2017 0:21:14 GMT
depend jobs&lvs, mq are not easy for new players with crap ns or no xtals.
I help when i can with some bosses when farming, other players just cry help everywhere ('-.-).
Annoy when u farmin mats and people start pt/mail/friend.
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Post by Poetik Muse on Jul 5, 2017 0:46:00 GMT
What an interesting thread. Being a new player, I didn't realize these things happened so much. It's stupid to ask others to level for you, what's the point in even playing the game? And on the other coin it makes it difficult for us new players that want to fully enjoy the game to ask real questions. I saw someone begging to help them kill a boss in Rokoko. Everyone was ignoring them. And here I was dying over and over again determined to kill Ferzen on my own, lol. The players there were kind enough to heal me and bless me and after about 45 min it was done. The feeling of accomplishment and having other players cheer you on is 100% more rewarding than begging -_-. Sorry to rant, the leeching part of this game is annoying. I just want to say I appreciate everyone that helped me and I hope older players don't get super discouraged and give up hope on us new players. Some of us legit want to play this game for real  |
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord 
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Jul 5, 2017 0:49:08 GMT
Ah brave adventurer thank you for...u know...casting guard lvl 1 on that guy that killed schlingel for us....oh yes and that amazing use of warcry, round of applause everybody
If ur polite and don't hack or beg I'll kill anything for you
On a side note if u really wanna mess with hackers just make a group for buying x boss(preferably like sinas or something) for 5m, sh....make em walk, make em kill the boss, don't pay and poof... The funny part is when they don't go... Hmmmm...I wonder why a lvl 274 samurai can't kill Bergen...that's so weird.also why is his mq bergen @.@
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