asteg
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Post by asteg on Jul 6, 2017 20:01:01 GMT
If ur like a 250+ pally and you need help on Raton I won't budge but if ur like a 200 snippy on Raton I'll help.. if ur a ninja don't even ask me unless I know you
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Fatima
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Diving in and out of iruna realm
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Post by Fatima on Jul 7, 2017 5:30:09 GMT
I think that the title should be "we need to stop providing level service/boosting players"
I can see very vivid those days when players were polite towards other players, regardless of their level. Back in those days anyone who genuinely wanted to befriend someone else, it was because they got along really good and wanted to stay in touch, let's call it be truly friends.
But someone had an idea. A brilliant idea that started to poison the entire game and spread out like a cancer does: "Alright, I am high level now, why not sell MQ help and call it a service? or what about sell level boost? I'm sure that I'll get rich very soon!!"
I think that was the origin point of our current situation(which is worrisome)
Newcomers and already active players were led to think that someone will solve their uh, "needs" on demand any time they feel like it. So players have forgotten the old fashioned way to level up themselves, and rely only on begging to be leveled.
That is my shared thought; but as I always say, I might be wrong.
Now, going back to the topic about lending a hand on MQ, many differents outputs can come out of the real situation, affected by some 'variables' like let's say, the way the help is requested. I have 2 possible scenarios
Respectful/independent people is always granted some help Rude people can jump off of a cliff
If I am close to a boss area, I wont mind helping someone that is passing by Random Party/friend spammers are invited to take their leave...permanently
However, any of the above can be denied if I see that the player is using any hack artifact or MQ level doesn't match accordingly to player's level
So essentially to me, whether to help is always up to the conditions met.
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Post by tsiaf on Jul 9, 2017 18:08:13 GMT
I think there's no problem in helping someone if you want to or if you can. But I think the thing is, most players don't really know "how to play Iruna", that's why they beg us for MQ help. Actually (backstory), I invited my brother to play Iruna. He said that he can't solo any MQ even with the gears I gave him and his level is low. So what I did, boosted him, spent money for better gears and accompanied him to every MQ. I think he got up until level 160... BIG MISTAKE. Afterwards, he didn't visited Iruna and he uninstalled because he said "it was getting boring" and I was always there beside him, helping him, so "there was no excitement" etc etc HE EVEN BLAMED IT ON MAH GOODWILL \(T____T)/ Months later, he decided to play Iruna cos ZGirls was boring him to death so he tried it once more. This time, I reminded him about the words he told me back then and I said that I won't help him. His previous gears will still be his gears now. No boosting, no MQ help. NEVARR! So he deleted his previous character and he became independent. (But actually families are families, so I kinda boosted him and helped MQ from time to time, just a bit, but never wasting spina againnn). Now, it became a bit annoying. I wanted to do my own MQ and I was soloing MQ but at the same time, he'd need my help. Really perfect timing. He's becoming dependent again so I figured I should show him "how to play Iruna". Bro: (bro is a lvl 70 Wizard) Help, sis! I can't solo Zolban! Me: You can do it~ Goooo~ Bro: No I can't! He 'one-hits' me. Me: You can do it. Bro: Nooo! Look! Bro: *shows me that Zolban one hits him* Me: Oh, I am sorry about that but yeees~ You can do it! Gooo~ Bro: My attacks are weak, my skills have a lot of cooldown! *insert more excuses here* Me: Trust me, you can do it Bro: I really can't!!! Why don't you try?!!! Me: Sure 8) *10 minutes later* *beats Zolban Me: There you go! Bro: Unbelievable! How in the world!?? Me: It all takes some spamming HP pots and choosing the right buff and skill during the battle, waiting for pet to heal, going to town and running to Zolban (Wibo is just near), being hopeful that Zolban will go easy on his attacks cos it's not one hit all the time, using beads from your Coin Section, and praying that you won't time out. That's just how you play, bro! And sometimes, it takes a lot of time to beat him up, so you need patience. Patience is a virtue. Let this all serve as a lesson for us. Now that he's done with Zolban, he's trying to beat Halios. And when you hear him cuss every time the boss kills him, I don't know... I kinda enjoy his suffering. We all suffered enjoyable hardships when it comes to defeating bosses back in our newb days before. Let them experience what we all experienced from the very start, and this game won't be as bad or as boring than before. (However sometimes there are bosses where we can't really solo no matter what (cos no more spina to buy potions, no time to farm potions, not much awesome gears and xtals, not much time to play and solo MQ etc for who knows what reason, insert more here*) so I guess at those desperate times, we all need help
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kms
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Post by kms on Jul 10, 2017 7:41:47 GMT
If ur like a 250+ pally and you need help on Raton I won't budge but if ur like a 200 snippy on Raton I'll help.. if ur a ninja don't even ask me unless I know you Gee, am I happy that I know you already - my fav 9 year old >:-)
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Post by ManaKhe on Jul 10, 2017 14:18:09 GMT
It won't happen. It goes against human nature on both sides. You could spend hours doing something or you could spend 30 minutes, which do you choose? Also someone asks for help most people will help them because they like to help. In order to fix this problem Asobimo would have to make some changes to the system. 1)Make MQ quests have a level limit, no more rushing MQ at low levels leeching off others to finish it fast. This may also have the effect of having similar leveled people doing the same MQ which is great. That isn't leeching, that is working together(unless said person decides they aren't gonna do anything). Low level players need to be playing with other lower level players in groups. 2)Fix how much EXP people get while in a party with a higher level player. A level 1 character shouldn't get EXP when a level 340 kills a level 300 mob. Makes no sense. Everyone at lower levels just leech. Low level content is devoid of players when in really could still have a lot of players. 3)Improve EXP mobs for lower levels. Maybe add in some better high HP mobs besides Dark Warriors for lower levels. This will make leveling less of a pain at lower levels(specifically 100-120 is a very slow point). Help my mq plz i wont spam i promise plzz Okay. We'll have to work out some form of payment though
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Post by ManaKhe on Jul 10, 2017 14:24:47 GMT
I think there's no problem in helping someone if you want to or if you can. But I think the thing is, most players don't really know "how to play Iruna", that's why they beg us for MQ help. Actually (backstory), I invited my brother to play Iruna. He said that he can't solo any MQ even with the gears I gave him and his level is low. So what I did, boosted him, spent money for better gears and accompanied him to every MQ. I think he got up until level 160... BIG MISTAKE. Afterwards, he didn't visited Iruna and he uninstalled because he said "it was getting boring" and I was always there beside him, helping him, so "there was no excitement" etc etc HE EVEN BLAMED IT ON MAH GOODWILL \(T____T)/ Months later, he decided to play Iruna cos ZGirls was boring him to death so he tried it once more. This time, I reminded him about the words he told me back then and I said that I won't help him. His previous gears will still be his gears now. No boosting, no MQ help. NEVARR! So he deleted his previous character and he became independent. (But actually families are families, so I kinda boosted him and helped MQ from time to time, just a bit, but never wasting spina againnn). Now, it became a bit annoying. I wanted to do my own MQ and I was soloing MQ but at the same time, he'd need my help. Really perfect timing. He's becoming dependent again so I figured I should show him "how to play Iruna". Bro: (bro is a lvl 70 Wizard) Help, sis! I can't solo Zolban! Me: You can do it~ Goooo~ Bro: No I can't! He 'one-hits' me. Me: You can do it. Bro: Nooo! Look! Bro: *shows me that Zolban one hits him* Me: Oh, I am sorry about that but yeees~ You can do it! Gooo~ Bro: My attacks are weak, my skills have a lot of cooldown! *insert more excuses here* Me: Trust me, you can do it Bro: I really can't!!! Why don't you try?!!! Me: Sure 8) *10 minutes later* *beats Zolban Me: There you go! Bro: Unbelievable! How in the world!?? Me: It all takes some spamming HP pots and choosing the right buff and skill during the battle, waiting for pet to heal, going to town and running to Zolban (Wibo is just near), being hopeful that Zolban will go easy on his attacks cos it's not one hit all the time, using beads from your Coin Section, and praying that you won't time out. That's just how you play, bro! And sometimes, it takes a lot of time to beat him up, so you need patience. Patience is a virtue. Let this all serve as a lesson for us. Now that he's done with Zolban, he's trying to beat Halios. And when you hear him cuss every time the boss kills him, I don't know... I kinda enjoy his suffering. We all suffered enjoyable hardships when it comes to defeating bosses back in our newb days before. Let them experience what we all experienced from the very start, and this game won't be as bad or as boring than before. (However sometimes there are bosses where we can't really solo no matter what (cos no more spina to buy potions, no time to farm potions, not much awesome gears and xtals, not much time to play and solo MQ etc for who knows what reason, insert more here*) so I guess at those desperate times, we all need help He could also just get HP gear. I think that's a problem a lot of new players face, they don't know the importance of an HP gear set when low level. Wiz/Hwiz/Chanter can have basically no issues soloing MQ for a very very long time. Outside of the random harder bosses of MQ soloing all the way through EP 2 shouldn't be an issue. But yeah help him get an HP set and teach him how to kite with Fire Lance and Drain and he will plow through all of EP 1 with ease, especially now that we have pets.
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Post by tsiaf on Jul 10, 2017 19:47:09 GMT
I think there's no problem in helping someone if you want to or if you can. But I think the thing is, most players don't really know "how to play Iruna", that's why they beg us for MQ help. Actually (backstory), I invited my brother to play Iruna. He said that he can't solo any MQ even with the gears I gave him and his level is low. So what I did, boosted him, spent money for better gears and accompanied him to every MQ. I think he got up until level 160... BIG MISTAKE. Afterwards, he didn't visited Iruna and he uninstalled because he said "it was getting boring" and I was always there beside him, helping him, so "there was no excitement" etc etc HE EVEN BLAMED IT ON MAH GOODWILL \(T____T)/ Months later, he decided to play Iruna cos ZGirls was boring him to death so he tried it once more. This time, I reminded him about the words he told me back then and I said that I won't help him. His previous gears will still be his gears now. No boosting, no MQ help. NEVARR! So he deleted his previous character and he became independent. (But actually families are families, so I kinda boosted him and helped MQ from time to time, just a bit, but never wasting spina againnn). Now, it became a bit annoying. I wanted to do my own MQ and I was soloing MQ but at the same time, he'd need my help. Really perfect timing. He's becoming dependent again so I figured I should show him "how to play Iruna". Bro: (bro is a lvl 70 Wizard) Help, sis! I can't solo Zolban! Me: You can do it~ Goooo~ Bro: No I can't! He 'one-hits' me. Me: You can do it. Bro: Nooo! Look! Bro: *shows me that Zolban one hits him* Me: Oh, I am sorry about that but yeees~ You can do it! Gooo~ Bro: My attacks are weak, my skills have a lot of cooldown! *insert more excuses here* Me: Trust me, you can do it Bro: I really can't!!! Why don't you try?!!! Me: Sure 8) *10 minutes later* *beats Zolban Me: There you go! Bro: Unbelievable! How in the world!?? Me: It all takes some spamming HP pots and choosing the right buff and skill during the battle, waiting for pet to heal, going to town and running to Zolban (Wibo is just near), being hopeful that Zolban will go easy on his attacks cos it's not one hit all the time, using beads from your Coin Section, and praying that you won't time out. That's just how you play, bro! And sometimes, it takes a lot of time to beat him up, so you need patience. Patience is a virtue. Let this all serve as a lesson for us. Now that he's done with Zolban, he's trying to beat Halios. And when you hear him cuss every time the boss kills him, I don't know... I kinda enjoy his suffering. We all suffered enjoyable hardships when it comes to defeating bosses back in our newb days before. Let them experience what we all experienced from the very start, and this game won't be as bad or as boring than before. (However sometimes there are bosses where we can't really solo no matter what (cos no more spina to buy potions, no time to farm potions, not much awesome gears and xtals, not much time to play and solo MQ etc for who knows what reason, insert more here*) so I guess at those desperate times, we all need help He could also just get HP gear. I think that's a problem a lot of new players face, they don't know the importance of an HP gear set when low level. Wiz/Hwiz/Chanter can have basically no issues soloing MQ for a very very long time. Outside of the random harder bosses of MQ soloing all the way through EP 2 shouldn't be an issue. But yeah help him get an HP set and teach him how to kite with Fire Lance and Drain and he will plow through all of EP 1 with ease, especially now that we have pets. Yeah but I'm not gonna spend spina on him again. Another thing is that we should teach them how to earn spina by themselves. We've all encountered strangers asking for 5m spina randomly. They should also know how to be independent, not just about MQ, but also about money. So now I'm introducing my brother to what we call 'the Sofya raids'.
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asteg
Dank Meme Lord
yar yar...wind at ye backs me fellows.
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Post by asteg on Jul 11, 2017 3:12:06 GMT
If ur like a 250+ pally and you need help on Raton I won't budge but if ur like a 200 snippy on Raton I'll help.. if ur a ninja don't even ask me unless I know you Gee, am I happy that I know you already - my fav 9 year old >:-) Ur to op, ur literally the reason people become ninjas Besides I'm always the one asking you for help x.x
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Post by penalope on Apr 26, 2024 18:28:58 GMT
It won't happen. It goes against human nature on both sides. You could spend hours doing something or you could spend 30 minutes, which do you choose? Also someone asks for help most people will help them because they like to help. In order to fix this problem Asobimo would have to make some changes to the system. 1)Make MQ quests have a level limit, no more rushing MQ at low levels leeching off others to finish it fast. This may also have the effect of having similar leveled people doing the same MQ which is great. That isn't leeching, that is working together(unless said person decides they aren't gonna do anything). Low level players need to be playing with other lower level players in groups. 2)Fix how much EXP people get while in a party with a higher level player. A level 1 character shouldn't get EXP when a level 340 kills a level 300 mob. Makes no sense. Everyone at lower levels just leech. Low level content is devoid of players when in really could still have a lot of players. 3)Improve EXP mobs for lower levels. Maybe add in some better high HP mobs besides Dark Warriors for lower levels. This will make leveling less of a pain at lower levels(specifically 100-120 is a very slow point). I totally agree in some cases yes mq should be soli however asobimo did not make there games to be soloed honestly made it more of a party based mmorpg rather then solo how it should have been from the start but isnt sadly
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Post by penalope on Apr 26, 2024 18:44:35 GMT
I think there's no problem in helping someone if you want to or if you can. But I think the thing is, most players don't really know "how to play Iruna", that's why they beg us for MQ help. Actually (backstory), I invited my brother to play Iruna. He said that he can't solo any MQ even with the gears I gave him and his level is low. So what I did, boosted him, spent money for better gears and accompanied him to every MQ. I think he got up until level 160... BIG MISTAKE. Afterwards, he didn't visited Iruna and he uninstalled because he said "it was getting boring" and I was always there beside him, helping him, so "there was no excitement" etc etc HE EVEN BLAMED IT ON MAH GOODWILL \(T____T)/ Months later, he decided to play Iruna cos ZGirls was boring him to death so he tried it once more. This time, I reminded him about the words he told me back then and I said that I won't help him. His previous gears will still be his gears now. No boosting, no MQ help. NEVARR! So he deleted his previous character and he became independent. (But actually families are families, so I kinda boosted him and helped MQ from time to time, just a bit, but never wasting spina againnn). Now, it became a bit annoying. I wanted to do my own MQ and I was soloing MQ but at the same time, he'd need my help. Really perfect timing. He's becoming dependent again so I figured I should show him "how to play Iruna". Bro: (bro is a lvl 70 Wizard) Help, sis! I can't solo Zolban! Me: You can do it~ Goooo~ Bro: No I can't! He 'one-hits' me. Me: You can do it. Bro: Nooo! Look! Bro: *shows me that Zolban one hits him* Me: Oh, I am sorry about that but yeees~ You can do it! Gooo~ Bro: My attacks are weak, my skills have a lot of cooldown! *insert more excuses here* Me: Trust me, you can do it Bro: I really can't!!! Why don't you try?!!! Me: Sure 8) *10 minutes later* *beats Zolban Me: There you go! Bro: Unbelievable! How in the world!?? Me: It all takes some spamming HP pots and choosing the right buff and skill during the battle, waiting for pet to heal, going to town and running to Zolban (Wibo is just near), being hopeful that Zolban will go easy on his attacks cos it's not one hit all the time, using beads from your Coin Section, and praying that you won't time out. That's just how you play, bro! And sometimes, it takes a lot of time to beat him up, so you need patience. Patience is a virtue. Let this all serve as a lesson for us. Now that he's done with Zolban, he's trying to beat Halios. And when you hear him cuss every time the boss kills him, I don't know... I kinda enjoy his suffering. We all suffered enjoyable hardships when it comes to defeating bosses back in our newb days before. Let them experience what we all experienced from the very start, and this game won't be as bad or as boring than before. (However sometimes there are bosses where we can't really solo no matter what (cos no more spina to buy potions, no time to farm potions, not much awesome gears and xtals, not much time to play and solo MQ etc for who knows what reason, insert more here*) so I guess at those desperate times, we all need help so true yet I've done everything in gamevon mybown no help at all even mq is done lvl 403 bishop and do everything solo as I have since beta tho let's all face it no matter the game or players we will always have to deal with leachers and beggers both as well as scammers all we older players can really do is back one another up and block and report them if they don't stop annoying us if any ask politely then it's ok to help one or two bosses if ur not preoccupied at the moment
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°Malice°
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Do you breath in dreams?
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Post by °Malice° on Apr 27, 2024 18:04:47 GMT
I remembered back then i helped a nub, not much just giving advice what to do to get spani. And guest what, after like 1-2 months he is way more richer than me, he became a reseller ._.)
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