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Post by nic123 on May 19, 2017 13:00:04 GMT
Cgb looses to spec mezzaluna even with high int and no crt so mage king ring ns should win against cgb ns, so if a mage king ring is made slot it will probably be close to if not the most expensive special Have you test that out and come up with a different result? I have already compared CGB ns vs Pole Talisman Mezza CGB wins with 150+ Matk difference it will lose if its any spec slot Agira or any Spec with decent Matk+x% + Mezza lets not forget mage kings ring,, biggest drawback.... you need 420 int, 190 vit, 285 dex, 420 crit, in order for the magic+10% hidden to kick in as a hw bishops need, vit, dex, int 428 for the hidden enchies need i forgot.. so imagine a max int, dex, blue line, green line, rest vit hw using cgb s and a univ 2s- they will for certain have more matk than the other build hw with univ 2s and mage king s. the question is, will the matk difference be enuf to outdamage the magic+% in zero formula? seems magic+10% is more scallable to matk+25%, idk if cgb can beat that only way to know is to test both and i cant wait to slot a cgb s with slotter lol. just ps. mage king ring outdamages old bone ring by a decent margin. best benefit of mage king is that at the same time, you are sb hw :vvv so imo, mage king is better, but with the cbg build u could get like 12k+ matk
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Post by nic123 on May 19, 2017 13:13:33 GMT
Not if the spec is cgb and build has no crt, still it is worth a shot hope we can make slot once it is released. Cgb looses to spec mezzaluna even with high int and no crt so mage king ring ns should win against cgb ns, so if a mage king ring is made slot it will probably be close to if not the most expensive special dss mats, 1 rare, 1 boss uncom, 1 boss common 7b+ on release mage king ring: 1 chasing level 120 item rhudocrosite- needs 1boss common, 1hardish uncom 1 demonic splinter- rare from mob with bad spawns 1 small mage ore- rare from mob with bad spawn/ iron mat level uncom from big arms (lev 300+ mob that hits 5k+) 1 magic core- boss uncom 1 ring- hard to store, rare mage king ring gonna definitely be like 9b or so lol, been hell to farm 800 sets, im stil in the process of collectin mats after like 2 weeks of strict mat farming
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Post by Zensui_X on May 19, 2017 13:45:16 GMT
nic123 may I have the link where this specific stat come from? I want it to see myself
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Post by nic123 on May 19, 2017 16:14:57 GMT
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Post by Zensui_X on May 19, 2017 20:52:05 GMT
I think it is still not certain what stat raises this hidden stat all magic+10% comes from, from what is written there they were only approve that as for bish with stats Int 428, Vit 428, Dex 428 it actually gains 10% light magic, as for hw with STR 1 INT 420 VIT 190 AGI 1 DEX 285 CRT 420, I really do having a hard time trying to comprehend what is written but does it says +10% Neutral Magic/No Magic? Well if the bish got the light magic+10% with those stat I think a hw with the same stat could also have it OR not, idk better wait til it comes EN, and test it by ourselves.
There is no solid proof where Crt stat is the Key Stat raising this hidden stat from MKR. They assumes it was Dex and/or Vit.
Plus it is not even certain if it actually adds all magic+10%, they only mentioned light/dark/neutral.
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Post by nic123 on May 19, 2017 21:19:42 GMT
I think it is still not certain what stat raises this hidden stat all magic+10% comes from, from what is written there they were only approve that as for bish with stats Int 428, Vit 428, Dex 428 it actually gains 10% light magic, as for hw with STR 1 INT 420 VIT 190 AGI 1 DEX 285 CRT 420, I really do having a hard time trying to comprehend what is written but does it says +10% Neutral Magic/No Magic? Well if the bish got the light magic+10% with those stat I think a hw with the same stat could also have it OR not, idk better wait til it comes EN, and test it by ourselves. There is no solid proof where Crt stat is the Key Stat raising this hidden stat from MKR. They assumes it was Dex and/or Vit. Plus it is not even certain if it actually adds all magic+10%, they only mentioned light/dark/neutral. the stats of the ring say, all magic+10%, it seems the person who wrote jp wiki wasnt sure tho, and they were testing the ring, which is the notes u read, i agree we gotta test it to find out for sure, but the fact that emi riko uses mkr and not cgb s, tells me that its better (idk wat these people do with their life but, trust me if she wanted cgb she would get a slotter and get one)
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on May 21, 2017 7:02:59 GMT
Not sure if that applies to EN formula tho as Neutral Magic+% is trash against MATK+% for Zero Ray output. Perhaps more like suit for Imperial Blast which affected pretty badly by the Neutral Magic+%.
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Post by SunPatso on May 21, 2017 10:25:12 GMT
Not sure if that applies to EN formula tho as Neutral Magic+% is trash against MATK+% for Zero Ray output. Perhaps more like suit for Imperial Blast which affected pretty badly by the Neutral Magic+%. Why do you think JP and EN damage formula for Zero Ray would be different?
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Post by nic123 on May 21, 2017 13:18:42 GMT
Not sure if that applies to EN formula tho as Neutral Magic+% is trash against MATK+% for Zero Ray output. Perhaps more like suit for Imperial Blast which affected pretty badly by the Neutral Magic+%. nah, i tested the formula, its not exact, but its very close
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on May 21, 2017 15:24:09 GMT
Not sure if that applies to EN formula tho as Neutral Magic+% is trash against MATK+% for Zero Ray output. Perhaps more like suit for Imperial Blast which affected pretty badly by the Neutral Magic+%. Why do you think JP and EN damage formula for Zero Ray would be different? Spellbook V4 stat MATK+10% Neutral Magic+20% Forbidden Book V5 stat (I don't really know stat but it's a lot stronger than Forbidden Book V4 with MATK+9% and 2DEX+1MATK) In JP, emi riko tested them (2s both) and Spellbook wins while my frien tested them in EN and FB V4 wins with large margin
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Post by Zensui_X on May 21, 2017 15:30:59 GMT
Why do you think JP and EN damage formula for Zero Ray would be different? Spellbook V4 stat MATK+10% Neutral Magic+20% Forbidden Book V5 stat (I don't really know stat but it's a lot stronger than Forbidden Book V4 with MATK+9% and 2DEX+1MATK) In JP, emi riko tested them (2s both) and Spellbook wins while my frien tested them in EN and FB V4 wins with large margin Have you already check their dex stat?
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Post by AizenSou [Quitting] on May 21, 2017 19:49:30 GMT
Spellbook V4 stat MATK+10% Neutral Magic+20% Forbidden Book V5 stat (I don't really know stat but it's a lot stronger than Forbidden Book V4 with MATK+9% and 2DEX+1MATK) In JP, emi riko tested them (2s both) and Spellbook wins while my frien tested them in EN and FB V4 wins with large margin Have you already check their dex stat? No need to because my friend did another test too and Spellbook v4 2s can't even beat Ritual Book v3 2s. And while that's that, the Spellbook v4 1s is weaker than Universe 1s and Spellbook v4 2s wins only a little against the Universe 1s.
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Post by nic123 on May 21, 2017 21:48:46 GMT
Have you already check their dex stat? No need to because my friend did another test too and Spellbook v4 2s can't even beat Ritual Book v3 2s. And while that's that, the Spellbook v4 1s is weaker than Universe 1s and Spellbook v4 2s wins only a little against the Universe 1s. ive really been meaning to test this out for real, when im on full buff sbook, outdamages univ by a wider margin i only have 256 dex btw, so idk if its fair to test vs fbook, but ill try eventually, as for ritual book, id also have to test that tho i believe sbook would win either way i dont care, i want a universe 2s :3, goin for 2slotter wen its in shop
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Post by Zensui_X on May 21, 2017 22:18:18 GMT
Have you already check their dex stat? No need to because my friend did another test too and Spellbook v4 2s can't even beat Ritual Book v3 2s. And while that's that, the Spellbook v4 1s is weaker than Universe 1s and Spellbook v4 2s wins only a little against the Universe 1s. You should tried atleast. If Emiriku's HW have lesser Dex than your Friend's HW then of course results FBook wins. You also say that Ritual Book 2s beats S.Book4 2s, well that depends on where he did use it against, Ritual Book gets upperhand against higher M.Def Enemies
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Post by Zensui_X on May 21, 2017 22:59:30 GMT
Here if we follow the formula nic123 got, Assumption: Base Matk: 10k Lets say at your lvl Universe Matk+% gives you a total of 35% alone without any xta Spell Book 4 11,000 x 9 x (1 + 3.5 + 0.1) x 1.5 x 1.2 = 819,720 Universe 13,500 x 9 x (1 + 3.5 + 0.1) x 1.5 = 838,350 we clearly see that Universe wins, but lets say we put xta for both of them, lets say any xta that boost matk by 20% Spell Book 4 13,000 x 9 x (1 + 3.5 + 0.1) x 1.5 x 1.2 = 968,760 Universe 15,500 x 9 x (1 + 3.5 + 0.1) x 1.5 = 962,550 then let's say you're in a party and was buffed by other class let's say the buff gives matk+100% Spell Book 4 23,000 x 9 x (1 + 3.5 + 0.1) x 1.5 x 1.2 = 1,713,960 Universe 25,500 x 9 x (1 + 3.5 + 0.1) x 1.5 = 1,583,550 That's the power of "Element" Magic+x%, I have shown you AizenSou [Quitting] already this formula it is somewhat in general though MATK x "ELEM" MAGIC x SKILL MULTIPLIER This is the reason why Dark Book is stronger than Necro Wand. I also manage to test out, Taenia Beret vs Druj Plume, Druj Plume wins with a little difference in damage, Although it is powerful I can't give up other stat Taenia offers. This is also the reason why Tellas beats Barotas on using other skills.
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