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Post by nic123 on May 19, 2017 4:06:36 GMT
so zero ray formula, assuming the mob doesnt have abnormal defense, and not counting pierce is matk x 9 x ( 1 + 3.5 + 0.1 ) x 1.5 x magic+% so if you have 10k matk after bandersnatch (bander adds 15%) and u use an exorcier coco bean ( magic to boss +10%) formula looks like 10k x 9 x ( 1+3.5 + 0.1) x 1.5 x 1.1 = 669735 just sharing what i found with you other hwizes credit to haruka ladomi and emi riko source: ameblo.jp/emi-riko/entry-12274849762.htmlshe was testing an addgear magic+10% vs fallen angel wing (matk+20%) and the addgear won by 40k this just got me thinking about mage kings ring which is: matk+8% int+10 cast time-20% magic power +300 if specific stats all magic+10%..... this means a ns may outdamage a spec with agirajarma.... let that sink in.... |
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Post by nic123 on May 19, 2017 4:08:01 GMT
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Post by Zensui_X on May 19, 2017 4:49:12 GMT
Not if the spec is cgb and build has no crt, still it is worth a shot hope we can make slot once it is released.
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Post by ♪Sumire on May 19, 2017 4:52:05 GMT
so zero ray formula, assuming the mob doesnt have abnormal defense, and not counting pierce is matk x 9 x ( 1 + 3.5 + 0.1 ) x 1.5 x magic+% so if you have 10k matk after bandersnatch (bander adds 15%) and u use an exorcier coco bean ( magic to boss +10%) formula looks like 10k x 9 x ( 1+3.5 + 0.1) x 1.5 x 1.1 = 669735 just sharing what i found with you other hwizes credit to haruka ladomi and emi riko source: ameblo.jp/emi-riko/entry-12274849762.htmlshe was testing an addgear magic+10% vs fallen angel wing (matk+20%) and the addgear won by 40k this just got me thinking about mage kings ring which is: matk+8% int+10 cast time-20% magic power +300 if specific stats all magic+10%..... this means a ns may outdamage a spec with agirajarma.... let that sink in.... wait wait wait!!!! fallen angel wing already released?? have any screenie of it? |
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Post by pingrek on May 19, 2017 5:05:45 GMT
Not if the spec is cgb and build has no crt, still it is worth a shot hope we can make slot once it is released. Cgb looses to spec mezzaluna even with high int and no crt so mage king ring ns should win against cgb ns, so if a mage king ring is made slot it will probably be close to if not the most expensive special |
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Post by Zensui_X on May 19, 2017 5:15:30 GMT
Not if the spec is cgb and build has no crt, still it is worth a shot hope we can make slot once it is released. Cgb looses to spec mezzaluna even with high int and no crt so mage king ring ns should win against cgb ns, so if a mage king ring is made slot it will probably be close to if not the most expensive special Have you test that out and come up with a different result? I have already compared CGB ns vs Pole Talisman Mezza CGB wins with 150+ Matk difference it will lose if its any spec slot Agira or any Spec with decent Matk+x% + Mezza |
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Post by pingrek on May 19, 2017 5:20:53 GMT
Cgb looses to spec mezzaluna even with high int and no crt so mage king ring ns should win against cgb ns, so if a mage king ring is made slot it will probably be close to if not the most expensive special Have you test that out and come up with a different result? I have already compared CGB ns vs Pole Talisman Mezza CGB wins with 150+ Matk difference it will lose if its any spec slot Agira or any Spec with decent Matk+x% + Mezza When I had cgb I tested it against my dnewt bangle mezza and the bangle won so I might not have had quite enough int for cgb to win |
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Post by Zensui_X on May 19, 2017 5:26:00 GMT
Have you test that out and come up with a different result? I have already compared CGB ns vs Pole Talisman Mezza CGB wins with 150+ Matk difference it will lose if its any spec slot Agira or any Spec with decent Matk+x% + Mezza When I had cgb I tested it against my dnewt bangle mezza and the bangle won so I might not have had quite enough int for cgb to win my stat when I test it out is Int 428, Crt 30 (mess up), therefore CGB gives me 398 Base Matk |
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Post by pingrek on May 19, 2017 5:31:17 GMT
When I had cgb I tested it against my dnewt bangle mezza and the bangle won so I might not have had quite enough int for cgb to win my stat when I test it out is Int 428, Crt 30 (mess up), therefore CGB gives me 398 Base Matk If the formula is exactly the difference then I should of had a closer result since I think when I tested cgb my int was in the 380's and my crt was 1 yet my bangle still won with I believe close to 100matk but it could have been less since this was a little while ago so my memory isn't the best on some of the details |
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Post by Zensui_X on May 19, 2017 5:37:03 GMT
I personally dont like Wings of Fallen Angel stats, it wont work out with Zero Set, it also gives Maxmp+20% which is a penalty for zero spammers, I see it more fit for Bishops, that Tree-Knitting Band whatsoever looks promising.
I have tested this one before, Taenia no xta vs Druj Plume no xta
Druj Plume wins with a little difference in damage, of course I'd still use Taenia I wont exchange a little damage for Taenia's MPC and SD
One thing is certain. Magic+x% beats Matk+x%
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Post by Zensui_X on May 19, 2017 5:40:04 GMT
my stat when I test it out is Int 428, Crt 30 (mess up), therefore CGB gives me 398 Base Matk If the formula is exactly the difference then I should of had a closer result since I think when I tested cgb my int was in the 380's and my crt was 1 yet my bangle still won with I believe close to 100matk but it could have been less since this was a little while ago so my memory isn't the best on some of the details There's a pots that gives Matk+70, I tried and use it I was expecting a flat +70 would be added in my Matk, but no it did not, it adds about 200+ Matk pts, I believe the way it was computed goes same for CGB |
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Post by pingrek on May 19, 2017 5:46:28 GMT
If the formula is exactly the difference then I should of had a closer result since I think when I tested cgb my int was in the 380's and my crt was 1 yet my bangle still won with I believe close to 100matk but it could have been less since this was a little while ago so my memory isn't the best on some of the details There's a pots that gives Matk+70, I tried and use it I was expecting a flat +70 would be added in my Matk, but no it did not, it adds about 200+ Matk pts, I believe the way it was computed goes same for CGB Matk% from gear and some passive skills can make a decent amount of difference for flat matk values, also I think one reason why my bangle won was that I was using tellas rod/nuitram, so if I had gerust instead then maybe the extra matk% would have made cgb give slightly higher matk in the end because of gerust having 20% vs 15% from mezza, so I think a gerust would have made the difference for me |
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Post by bikini on May 19, 2017 7:12:17 GMT
stats of those adds?
i think ill fine with taenia
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Post by nic123 on May 19, 2017 12:51:10 GMT
so zero ray formula, assuming the mob doesnt have abnormal defense, and not counting pierce is matk x 9 x ( 1 + 3.5 + 0.1 ) x 1.5 x magic+% so if you have 10k matk after bandersnatch (bander adds 15%) and u use an exorcier coco bean ( magic to boss +10%) formula looks like 10k x 9 x ( 1+3.5 + 0.1) x 1.5 x 1.1 = 669735 just sharing what i found with you other hwizes credit to haruka ladomi and emi riko source: ameblo.jp/emi-riko/entry-12274849762.htmlshe was testing an addgear magic+10% vs fallen angel wing (matk+20%) and the addgear won by 40k this just got me thinking about mage kings ring which is: matk+8% int+10 cast time-20% magic power +300 if specific stats all magic+10%..... this means a ns may outdamage a spec with agirajarma.... let that sink in.... wait wait wait!!!! fallen angel wing already released?? have any screenie of it? this was a jap hw, we dont have 3 knitting band or fallen angel wing yet |
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Post by nic123 on May 19, 2017 12:53:38 GMT
stats of those adds? i think ill fine with taenia tania beret is def best for solo fallen angel wing is- light magic chance by attack, matk+20%, max mp+20% three knitting band is- forgot one stat but its not important, magic+10% to boss, delay-1 in death chills fallen angel wing outdamages taenia beret, and three knitting band outdamages taenia |
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