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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 14:10:19 GMT
I'm liking my Tankish build, MAX INT, AGI til Max ASPD, DEX to 50 (for decent hit rate) then 2 VIT / 1 DEX after that. If I start missing I will add the next 3 points to DEX. VIT definitely reduces the damage in addition to giving more HP. My HP gear is Iron Up + Piton, Bunny Ears + Piton, S Bangle, and Book of ICE / Piton. (Ice Book if boss is too hard and I plan on hit/drain and run) Attack gear is Hex Espada UP + FG, Auler UP + Blaiard and Lotus Seeds. I always wear my Iron Up + Piton. Too poor to buy DPR + FG right now. At lvl 130 this is working pretty well, very survivable. I can take quite a few hits before going down. tilt, How is the Evasive Enchanter build? I would like to dodge 85% of the time but seems like the 1 or 2 hits that land on you would hurt pretty bad. Once your AGI hits 160+ you can dodge a lot of hits. Sinbad2 would also help a lot. It can also make melee as safe as possible. My own enchanter has been full melee since turning 120. Sinbad2 has a chance to increase evasion while attacking. Like my build post here says, i can solo all of parul bossis, false grecia, matar, matadora(if im lucky) and ghouli, all because of evasion, with only 1 vit. And your right about the pain of getting hit. Boost the evasion high enough to dodge most melee hits and any magic hits you get are reduced by a lot because of magic defense. Drain should be able to recover your hp between melee hits and absorbing magic damage. Which is why i would feel that if you want to do a tank enchanter, dont max INT, leave some points for AGI and once both are at about 200 each, add DEX. The only prob that i see with your build is the accuracy. I wouldnt recommend doing the melee tanker stats(INT/AGI) without having your accuracy stable first. I use tarante xtals to get accuracy so that i can neglect dex for a few levels. BUT luckily an enchanter can use a magic staff(Only one right now is witch knife) And it gives the same attack boost from INT as a magic sword and also has its own additional attack. If you have a magic amplifier with the magic staff your agility further boosts your magic attack. You can also cast whatever spells like drain and firelance faster than if you had a magic sword equiped. You also get the SAME melee damage output as a magic sword. (you can test if you have a magic staff and a magic sword with the same attack and refine) but i see that the staff hits a little slower. Magic staff is GREAT for any enchanter under full class because it gives such a smooth transition from manual casting to auto casting. Try it out! Also if you want to see my enchanter in action, let me know. The results are awesome =) magic rod & magic sword casts the same. sword need lower point of agi to cap aspd therefore you cant properly align cast between hit but to wait for the next hit before it start casting. on the other hand, magic rod need more agi point so its slower on aspd & provide best condition where the delay between hit is great enough that you can properly align your cast. basically, both cast the same. just the speed between hit makes rod faster on casting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 14:42:57 GMT
Once your AGI hits 160+ you can dodge a lot of hits. Sinbad2 would also help a lot. It can also make melee as safe as possible. My own enchanter has been full melee since turning 120. Sinbad2 has a chance to increase evasion while attacking. Like my build post here says, i can solo all of parul bossis, false grecia, matar, matadora(if im lucky) and ghouli, all because of evasion, with only 1 vit. And your right about the pain of getting hit. Boost the evasion high enough to dodge most melee hits and any magic hits you get are reduced by a lot because of magic defense. Drain should be able to recover your hp between melee hits and absorbing magic damage. Which is why i would feel that if you want to do a tank enchanter, dont max INT, leave some points for AGI and once both are at about 200 each, add DEX. The only prob that i see with your build is the accuracy. I wouldnt recommend doing the melee tanker stats(INT/AGI) without having your accuracy stable first. I use tarante xtals to get accuracy so that i can neglect dex for a few levels. BUT luckily an enchanter can use a magic staff(Only one right now is witch knife) And it gives the same attack boost from INT as a magic sword and also has its own additional attack. If you have a magic amplifier with the magic staff your agility further boosts your magic attack. You can also cast whatever spells like drain and firelance faster than if you had a magic sword equiped. You also get the SAME melee damage output as a magic sword. (you can test if you have a magic staff and a magic sword with the same attack and refine) but i see that the staff hits a little slower. Magic staff is GREAT for any enchanter under full class because it gives such a smooth transition from manual casting to auto casting. Try it out! Also if you want to see my enchanter in action, let me know. The results are awesome =) magic rod & magic sword casts the same. sword need lower point of agi to cap aspd therefore you cant properly align cast between hit but to wait for the next hit before it start casting. on the other hand, magic rod need more agi point so its slower on aspd & provide best condition where the delay between hit is great enough that you can properly align your cast. basically, both cast the same. just the speed between hit makes rod faster on casting. Casting reflect as a timer^^ Starting cast with dai espada at about 55 secs Ending cast with dai eapada at about 52 secs. Starting cast with witch knife at about 41 secs Ending cast at about 40 secs with witch knife
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 14:55:33 GMT
magic rod & magic sword casts the same. sword need lower point of agi to cap aspd therefore you cant properly align cast between hit but to wait for the next hit before it start casting. on the other hand, magic rod need more agi point so its slower on aspd & provide best condition where the delay between hit is great enough that you can properly align your cast. basically, both cast the same. just the speed between hit makes rod faster on casting. i'll stop here before this becomes an argument. you're way more experienced enchanter than me anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 15:11:50 GMT
i'll stop here before this becomes an argument. you're way more experienced enchanter than me anyway. Lol im super noob enchanter. Anyway i do hate the fact that a witch knife is slower than a magic sword -_-
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 15:16:16 GMT
i'll stop here before this becomes an argument. you're way more experienced enchanter than me anyway. Lol im super noob enchanter. Anyway i do hate the fact that a witch knife is slower than a magic sword -_- witch knife gives an option for another not-at-all popular enchanter build. the Int/Agi/Str. only works @ high lvl for lack of accuracy. this build makes possible to use a better autoskill rod such as the amulet sword. an upgrade of amulet. autoskill+5% matk+3%. more dmg but very unusual. Str itself already sounds weird.
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Post by crazybrker on Jan 12, 2014 15:38:53 GMT
Lol im super noob enchanter. Anyway i do hate the fact that a witch knife is slower than a magic sword -_- witch knife gives an option for another not-at-all popular enchanter build. the Int/Agi/Str. only works @ high lvl for lack of accuracy. this build makes possible to use a better autoskill rod such as the amulet sword. an upgrade of amulet. autoskill+5% matk+3%. more dmg but very unusual. Str itself already sounds weird. I have Amulet+, I thought it was going to be good with the autoskill +5%. But since it does not have a chance to trigger magic attack, my autoskill is 0%. Possibly with Ciel added, would give me a trigger to cast manawave. So Amulet +5%, Lotus Seeds +5%, Draw lvl1 +5%?, Ciel +??% Might end up around 25% autocasts... But the regular attack damage is so low (half of hex up w/ FG) You end up ManaWaving them to death. Amulet+ is not worth the effort to upgrade it. Since I dont have a Sinbad, when ever I fight a neutral, I end up just switching to my Ice Book (HP Set) and cast my Fire Lance + Drain... Any other recommendations for fighting neutral? No money for Sinbad just yet
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 15:50:44 GMT
witch knife gives an option for another not-at-all popular enchanter build. the Int/Agi/Str. only works @ high lvl for lack of accuracy. this build makes possible to use a better autoskill rod such as the amulet sword. an upgrade of amulet. autoskill+5% matk+3%. more dmg but very unusual. Str itself already sounds weird. I have Amulet+, I thought it was going to be good with the autoskill +5%. But since it does not have a chance to trigger magic attack, my autoskill is 0%. Possibly with Ciel added, would give me a trigger to cast manawave. So Amulet +5%, Lotus Seeds +5%, Draw lvl1 +5%?, Ciel +??% Might end up around 25% autocasts... But the regular attack damage is so low (half of hex up w/ FG) You end up ManaWaving them to death. Amulet+ is not worth the effort to upgrade it. Since I dont have a Sinbad, when ever I fight a neutral, I end up just switching to my Ice Book (HP Set) and cast my Fire Lance + Drain... Any other recommendations for fighting neutral? No money for Sinbad just yet If you still want to go melee, just use a witch knife. you can buy one slot for about 300k. You could also upgrade your espada to dai espada and add a ciel so that you fight with half of damage to neutral and rely on the autoskill to kill your opponent. Maybe the proc rate of ceil is between 5-10%.....but idk, it casts less than my espada so its hard to tell.
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 12, 2014 17:25:34 GMT
Dia Espada + Ciel should be enough to do alright damage to neutral before level 140. After 140 it won't matter if something is neutral or not at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 23:57:11 GMT
witch knife gives an option for another not-at-all popular enchanter build. the Int/Agi/Str. only works @ high lvl for lack of accuracy. this build makes possible to use a better autoskill rod such as the amulet sword. an upgrade of amulet. autoskill+5% matk+3%. more dmg but very unusual. Str itself already sounds weird. I have Amulet+, I thought it was going to be good with the autoskill +5%. But since it does not have a chance to trigger magic attack, my autoskill is 0%. Possibly with Ciel added, would give me a trigger to cast manawave. So Amulet +5%, Lotus Seeds +5%, Draw lvl1 +5%?, Ciel +??% Might end up around 25% autocasts... But the regular attack damage is so low (half of hex up w/ FG) You end up ManaWaving them to death. Amulet+ is not worth the effort to upgrade it. Since I dont have a Sinbad, when ever I fight a neutral, I end up just switching to my Ice Book (HP Set) and cast my Fire Lance + Drain... Any other recommendations for fighting neutral? No money for Sinbad just yet Amulet Sword matk+3% autoskill+5%. not amulet+. dont get confused. thats why the build mention Str. normal canes gain 3 atk per Str. you gain a lot atk by Str & its a cane so your matk still rise normally plus matk+3%. you have absolutely no problem with damage either melee or magic. *its an unusual build so i dont recommend so unless you're a lvl 180+. autoskill seems to grow along with level so it doesnt matter. my fclaw 2 + draw 2 + dpr + hairband + lotus seed only results in 26% autoskill but it spam my magic a lot like its 90%.
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Post by Koikoi on Jan 13, 2014 6:02:30 GMT
Do you think I should maybe list the prices of the gear? Just update it when it changes or something. I would need help with that though I'm horrible with prices lol. How are you liking Ciel KoiKoi? Also how do you change how links are shown, like instead of the URL it would just say "here". ♡(ゝ。∂)♥ Sorry for the late reply. Well I appreciate the fact that Ciel does give 2 mana waves.... But....... It really makes me look fat!!! XD hahaha but I'm keeping it for the damage ^_^ And just to answer your question, you can change the link text by... 1. Copy URL you want 2. Click the link icon there at the Edit tools (I believe it looks like a globe). Pop up will show 3. Paste link on the link box 4. Type the word you want on the right section ^_^
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 13, 2014 7:21:57 GMT
Do you think I should maybe list the prices of the gear? Just update it when it changes or something. I would need help with that though I'm horrible with prices lol. How are you liking Ciel KoiKoi? Also how do you change how links are shown, like instead of the URL it would just say "here". ♡(ゝ。∂)♥ Sorry for the late reply. Well I appreciate the fact that Ciel does give 2 mana waves.... But....... It really makes me look fat!!! XD hahaha but I'm keeping it for the damage ^_^ And just to answer your question, you can change the link text by... 1. Copy URL you want 2. Click the link icon there at the Edit tools (I believe it looks like a globe). Pop up will show 3. Paste link on the link box 4. Type the word you want on the right section ^_^ Oh my god thank you that looks so much better now haha. I also added a link to the spina price announcer thread.
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Post by Koikoi on Jan 13, 2014 9:25:32 GMT
♡(ゝ。∂)♥ Sorry for the late reply. Well I appreciate the fact that Ciel does give 2 mana waves.... But....... It really makes me look fat!!! XD hahaha but I'm keeping it for the damage ^_^ And just to answer your question, you can change the link text by... 1. Copy URL you want 2. Click the link icon there at the Edit tools (I believe it looks like a globe). Pop up will show 3. Paste link on the link box 4. Type the word you want on the right section ^_^ Oh my god thank you that looks so much better now haha. I also added a link to the spina price announcer thread. ♡(ゝ。∂)♥ Welcome :>
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>>Mikasa<<
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Post by >>Mikasa<< on Jan 14, 2014 3:02:43 GMT
Hello, i'm planning to make a enchanter. But i'm not sure with build i should do. I'm going to use Magic Sword (Dia Espada and Sinbad2), so what build i should use? I heard that theres Enchanter skill that CRT based, so is the build is INT/DEX/AGI or INT/CRT/AGI? Any answer would be appreciated ^^
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Post by ManaKhe on Jan 14, 2014 4:25:20 GMT
Hello, i'm planning to make a enchanter. But i'm not sure with build i should do. I'm going to use Magic Sword (Dia Espada and Sinbad2), so what build i should use? I heard that theres Enchanter skill that CRT based, so is the build is INT/DEX/AGI or INT/CRT/AGI? Any answer would be appreciated ^^ INT/DEX/AGI needs a lot less stat points to be good and has a lot more flexibility in the builds. You could add VIT after you meet some basic needed stats(Max INT, 135+ AGI, 70+DEX), or you could add more AGI. Some even just add tons of DEX. It is also better earlier on and has a better potential to tank later on. INT/CRT/AGI takes a lot of stat points before it really catches up to INT/AGI/DEX but will probably out damage DEX builds later on(like level 180+ later on). Early on it might be better to use Throwing instead of Magic Swords. Also you would use Fearsome Claw instead of Lotus Seeds. I haven't heard of any CRT based skill for Enchanters. Maybe it was the confusion about how autoskills work. The only autoskills that are CRT based are double attack and spell burst to my knowledge(maybe Monk's shell break skill too, don't remember).
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>>Mikasa<<
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Post by >>Mikasa<< on Jan 14, 2014 6:32:48 GMT
Hello, i'm planning to make a enchanter. But i'm not sure with build i should do. I'm going to use Magic Sword (Dia Espada and Sinbad2), so what build i should use? I heard that theres Enchanter skill that CRT based, so is the build is INT/DEX/AGI or INT/CRT/AGI? Any answer would be appreciated ^^ INT/DEX/AGI needs a lot less stat points to be good and has a lot more flexibility in the builds. You could add VIT after you meet some basic needed stats(Max INT, 135+ AGI, 70+DEX), or you could add more AGI. Some even just add tons of DEX. It is also better earlier on and has a better potential to tank later on. INT/CRT/AGI takes a lot of stat points before it really catches up to INT/AGI/DEX but will probably out damage DEX builds later on(like level 180+ later on). Early on it might be better to use Throwing instead of Magic Swords. Also you would use Fearsome Claw instead of Lotus Seeds. I haven't heard of any CRT based skill for Enchanters. Maybe it was the confusion about how autoskills work. The only autoskills that are CRT based are double attack and spell burst to my knowledge(maybe Monk's shell break skill too, don't remember). Ohh, ok i see... how about the armor and xtals for CRT build? Is it still the same like Dex build? (DPR Up and Ciel with Himmel Xtal). And also stat spenting. How many stat i should spent?
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