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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 0:33:16 GMT
Hes a magic build ninja so he wont fight like a normal dps ninja that wants 1hp and needs clones to live. Parlyze so that you slow the enemy down enough so your clones defend faster, and if your clones go away then you have hp or agi to stay alive [br9 Clones defends alot better than an extra 2k? 3k? hp would. Hp make no sense, the only reason a ninja wouldnt have clones would be 1. The player is too stupid to make clones when needed 2. Stun in which case they'd already be dead Auto attack ninja use clones because its usually the only thing they cast. Their offense is automatic for the most part. Magic ninja is ALWAYS casting, so it has to wait for the spells cast time and delay. You cant use clones while your in the middle of using a spell so Hp on this ninja is to take a hit if needed. Also if your stunned you can take a hit and poison wont kill you so fast with hp.
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Post by dangercats on Apr 1, 2014 0:33:32 GMT
if you want a bosshiet like xtal without as much hp and more matk during Halloween theres the bernard xtal +30atk/matk +2int/vit the 2 vit doesnt add allot but you have more dmg gain with the +2int. Plus you get a smidge of def too like it matters lol.
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Post by aroxis on Apr 1, 2014 3:10:55 GMT
[br9 Clones defends alot better than an extra 2k? 3k? hp would. Hp make no sense, the only reason a ninja wouldnt have clones would be 1. The player is too stupid to make clones when needed 2. Stun in which case they'd already be dead Auto attack ninja use clones because its usually the only thing they cast. Their offense is automatic for the most part. Magic ninja is ALWAYS casting, so it has to wait for the spells cast time and delay. You cant use clones while your in the middle of using a spell so Hp on this ninja is to take a hit if needed. Also if your stunned you can take a hit and poison wont kill you so fast with hp. With max dex formation of clones takes less than one second not much time wasted lol. (look up bow ninja solo minegaga) And you can use clones while casting idk what u mean by that. And why waste points on vit if you can add a dmging stat like crit for d.o.c? Also when will a m.ninja be takin a stun? Unlike agi ninj, magic ninja are less suited for ninja. And the few pro magic ninja ive seen all use 9 clones so a bossheit wont help at all lol.
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Post by drrockso on Apr 1, 2014 3:17:13 GMT
Auto attack ninja use clones because its usually the only thing they cast. Their offense is automatic for the most part. Magic ninja is ALWAYS casting, so it has to wait for the spells cast time and delay. You cant use clones while your in the middle of using a spell so Hp on this ninja is to take a hit if needed. Also if your stunned you can take a hit and poison wont kill you so fast with hp. With max dex formation of clones takes less than one second not much time wasted lol. (look up bow ninja solo minegaga) And you can use clones while casting idk what u mean by that. And why waste points on vit if you can add a dmging stat like crit for d.o.c? Also when will a m.ninja be takin a stun? Unlike agi ninj, magic ninja are less suited for ninja. And the few pro magic ninja ive seen all use 9 clones so a bossheit wont help at all lol. why they use 9 is because they have ganei and they can do it
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Post by aroxis on Apr 1, 2014 3:21:41 GMT
With max dex formation of clones takes less than one second not much time wasted lol. (look up bow ninja solo minegaga) And you can use clones while casting idk what u mean by that. And why waste points on vit if you can add a dmging stat like crit for d.o.c? Also when will a m.ninja be takin a stun? Unlike agi ninj, magic ninja are less suited for ninja. And the few pro magic ninja ive seen all use 9 clones so a bossheit wont help at all lol. why they use 9 is because they have ganei and they can do it Yes and ganei also help with dmg and survival.
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Post by drrockso on Apr 1, 2014 3:22:44 GMT
why they use 9 is because they have ganei and they can do it Yes and ganei also help with dmg and survival. of all the times I've played I've only seen 3 Mage ninjas in game
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Post by drrockso on Apr 1, 2014 3:26:52 GMT
vasseria boss which map is it at
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Post by aroxis on Apr 1, 2014 3:49:51 GMT
vasseria boss which map is it at the god tower. the white portal at the bailuine epicenter
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 11:22:15 GMT
Auto attack ninja use clones because its usually the only thing they cast. Their offense is automatic for the most part. Magic ninja is ALWAYS casting, so it has to wait for the spells cast time and delay. You cant use clones while your in the middle of using a spell so Hp on this ninja is to take a hit if needed. Also if your stunned you can take a hit and poison wont kill you so fast with hp. With max dex formation of clones takes less than one second not much time wasted lol. (look up bow ninja solo minegaga) And you can use clones while casting idk what u mean by that. And why waste points on vit if you can add a dmging stat like crit for d.o.c? Also when will a m.ninja be takin a stun? Unlike agi ninj, magic ninja are less suited for ninja. And the few pro magic ninja ive seen all use 9 clones so a bossheit wont help at all lol. Would you also tell me the skill delay gear used in that video? And its a bow ninja, not a magic ninja that your comparing. Also tell me why crt is used on magic ninja. Spell boost? Because it definently is not using its normal attacks to damage. Like i said, magic ninja have to cast spells and they cant stop in the middle tobset up clones to defend or stop in the middle to change gear to reduce hp for clones. Altera ring or any other automatic hp reducers wont work since the ninja is using spells. How would it get the 9 clones? Thats where the vit or agi comes in at, to make up for the casting.
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Post by Prayerz on Apr 1, 2014 11:59:28 GMT
get all slotted equipts if you can Bossheit is decent since you have low hp, The mp and matk is pretty helpful too. Fuma shushiwa murcure ghost candle or s.bangle That should be great gear. Adding on to this, xtal wise, kimale would be your best option if planning to clone. Atk/Matk+7%, Max HP-12%
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Post by Prayerz on Apr 1, 2014 12:02:39 GMT
[br9 Clones defends alot better than an extra 2k? 3k? hp would. Hp make no sense, the only reason a ninja wouldnt have clones would be 1. The player is too stupid to make clones when needed 2. Stun in which case they'd already be dead Auto attack ninja use clones because its usually the only thing they cast. Their offense is automatic for the most part. Magic ninja is ALWAYS casting, so it has to wait for the spells cast time and delay. You cant use clones while your in the middle of using a spell so Hp on this ninja is to take a hit if needed. Also if your stunned you can take a hit and poison wont kill you so fast with hp. Tried magic ninja. Clones are 1 sec with 200 dex. You can get clones back to 9 in just a few seconds. Magic Ninja relies on clones, too. Used Fuma and Shushiwa slot with 2 ganeis.
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Post by aroxis on Apr 1, 2014 13:29:22 GMT
With max dex formation of clones takes less than one second not much time wasted lol. (look up bow ninja solo minegaga) And you can use clones while casting idk what u mean by that. And why waste points on vit if you can add a dmging stat like crit for d.o.c? Also when will a m.ninja be takin a stun? Unlike agi ninj, magic ninja are less suited for ninja. And the few pro magic ninja ive seen all use 9 clones so a bossheit wont help at all lol. Would you also tell me the skill delay gear used in that video? And its a bow ninja, not a magic ninja that your comparing. Also tell me why crt is used on magic ninja. Spell boost? Because it definently is not using its normal attacks to damage. Like i said, magic ninja have to cast spells and they cant stop in the middle tobset up clones to defend or stop in the middle to change gear to reduce hp for clones. Altera ring or any other automatic hp reducers wont work since the ninja is using spells. How would it get the 9 clones? Thats where the vit or agi comes in at, to make up for the casting. Go look ninja build sub board. You say a ninja cant stop to make clones as a means of defence? A bishop cant stop to heal bc its too busy spamming nemesis? An ench cant ss cuz its too busy attacking? I just used bow nin as an exaple of max dex = 1sec+ delay
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Post by drrockso on Apr 1, 2014 14:16:38 GMT
I can't buy theses xtals guys I get p shroom stacks instant hp 1
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Post by drrockso on Apr 1, 2014 14:22:55 GMT
9 clones would be good against fast attacking mobs and bosses but if it's a slow mob or boss I don't need to have 9 clones cause its a easy kill but if it's a fast hitting boss I would defiantly have to use 9 clones that's if try to solo agi/cri ninjas solo I'm a Mage ninja i can't solo most bosses so I need a party. Mage ninjas are good buddies with high wizards bishops and everyother class unlike agi cri who just tank and solo and only gets a few buffs unlike a Mage ninja who can get all the buffs and still kick ass
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 17:04:20 GMT
Would you also tell me the skill delay gear used in that video? And its a bow ninja, not a magic ninja that your comparing. Also tell me why crt is used on magic ninja. Spell boost? Because it definently is not using its normal attacks to damage. Like i said, magic ninja have to cast spells and they cant stop in the middle tobset up clones to defend or stop in the middle to change gear to reduce hp for clones. Altera ring or any other automatic hp reducers wont work since the ninja is using spells. How would it get the 9 clones? Thats where the vit or agi comes in at, to make up for the casting. Go look ninja build sub board. You say a ninja cant stop to make clones as a means of defence? A bishop cant stop to heal bc its too busy spamming nemesis? An ench cant ss cuz its too busy attacking? I just used bow nin as an exaple of max dex = 1sec+ delay Try a magic ninja then you might understand what im saying. Btw a bishop is a support/healing class not nessasarly a nemesis spammer class. Enchanter has an auto attack offense so it has plenty of room to cast stone skin obliviously. And you keep bringing up a bow ninja on a magic ninja thread like it matters. Again i will say it, the main prob is NOT the fact that magic ninja does not use clones, because, as i included, they do use clones. The prob is the CAST/COOLDOWN of the spells in relation to having to cast clones on top of that and how hard it would be for a MAGIC ninja to get 9 clones while in a fight. you CANT change gear while casting spells, altera ring WONT work on spell use, so how would you get 9 clones in the heat of a fight? thats why VIT or AGI is needed, as an additional defense with the clones. Bishoop has fast spells/cooldowns, High heals, ressurection and natural durability so its easy to attack and defend simultaneously. H.wiiz has drain which heals it over time while it is attacking. Paralyze also slows the enemy down enough to cut down on the enemies dps. Again Magic Ninja does not use claws or any normal attacks and it is a spell caster (Not a bow user) so it uses clones and vit/agi to stay alive while attacking. Ganie and other hp reducing gear serves almost no purpose since you cant switch gear while attacking. How do you survive with 3 clones and vit or agi? Paralyze from raiton slows the enemy down. Anyways just make one.
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