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Post by digemeat on Jan 20, 2015 22:20:05 GMT
When a Paly gets the stunparry/parry passive increase from using a shield is it in the paladins best interest to switch to using a shield? Assuming a paladin is above the level to get that skill, what is the best in slot for general tanking/hp set. Including xtals if not a 20%.
I mean a lot of the best tanking gear additionals aren't shields so, do people toss their Ideasol/wolf ears for example for a shield?
If so what is the best shield for that category (general tanking/hp set)
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jan 21, 2015 9:40:33 GMT
When a Paly gets the stunparry/parry passive increase from using a shield is it in the paladins best interest to switch to using a shield? Assuming a paladin is above the level to get that skill, what is the best in slot for general tanking/hp set. Including xtals if not a 20%. I mean a lot of the best tanking gear additionals aren't shields so, do people toss their Ideasol/wolf ears for example for a shield? If so what is the best shield for that category (general tanking/hp set) I have a hard time adopting shields in my additional gear so I just placed them on my accessory. It doesn't increase my stun parry damage and I'm unsure if it improves my parry rate but I can see that the negate damage procs sometimes so it's good enough for me. |
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Post by potato on Jan 21, 2015 12:16:05 GMT
When a Paly gets the stunparry/parry passive increase from using a shield is it in the paladins best interest to switch to using a shield? Assuming a paladin is above the level to get that skill, what is the best in slot for general tanking/hp set. Including xtals if not a 20%. I mean a lot of the best tanking gear additionals aren't shields so, do people toss their Ideasol/wolf ears for example for a shield? If so what is the best shield for that category (general tanking/hp set) for me its increasing damage of stun parry, touching 8k+ stun parry on dark monster, not sure about the rate increasing tho, |
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Post by digemeat on Jan 21, 2015 13:04:39 GMT
When a Paly gets the stunparry/parry passive increase from using a shield is it in the paladins best interest to switch to using a shield? Assuming a paladin is above the level to get that skill, what is the best in slot for general tanking/hp set. Including xtals if not a 20%. I mean a lot of the best tanking gear additionals aren't shields so, do people toss their Ideasol/wolf ears for example for a shield? If so what is the best shield for that category (general tanking/hp set) I have a hard time adopting shields in my additional gear so I just placed them on my accessory. It doesn't increase my stun parry damage and I'm unsure if it improves my parry rate but I can see that the negate damage procs sometimes so it's good enough for me. Huh. Didn't know equipping an accessory would actually be a viable option. That would solve the immediate issue anyways. Is that confirmed by anyone else to work? Not that I don't believe you, I mean it did work with the Santa hat thing. |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Jan 21, 2015 13:21:12 GMT
I have a hard time adopting shields in my additional gear so I just placed them on my accessory. It doesn't increase my stun parry damage and I'm unsure if it improves my parry rate but I can see that the negate damage procs sometimes so it's good enough for me. Huh. Didn't know equipping an accessory would actually be a viable option. That would solve the immediate issue anyways. Is that confirmed by anyone else to work? Not that I don't believe you, I mean it did work with the Santa hat thing. Not really hard to see for yourself. Just equip shield In accessory, attack mob, wait for 0dmg to pop. You wont see 0dmg without shield. |
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Post by digemeat on Jan 21, 2015 13:51:34 GMT
When a Paly gets the stunparry/parry passive increase from using a shield is it in the paladins best interest to switch to using a shield? Assuming a paladin is above the level to get that skill, what is the best in slot for general tanking/hp set. Including xtals if not a 20%. I mean a lot of the best tanking gear additionals aren't shields so, do people toss their Ideasol/wolf ears for example for a shield? If so what is the best shield for that category (general tanking/hp set) for me its increasing damage of stun parry, touching 8k+ stun parry on dark monster, not sure about the rate increasing tho, Hmm, but is the dps gains from that worth it? As a Paly shouldn't really be too worried about dpsing, but free dps gains are always welcome. I was looking at the duel shield and it actually looks like a good contender to the general tanking set, although I'd still probably would rather use an Idealsol in that case, unless the gains in proc damage overcomes stat differences. If proc rate doesn't increase then it's not really something I feel like I should be worried about. I would've hoped the increase would be like 20% proc rate with shields. |
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Post by digemeat on Jan 21, 2015 13:54:46 GMT
Huh. Didn't know equipping an accessory would actually be a viable option. That would solve the immediate issue anyways. Is that confirmed by anyone else to work? Not that I don't believe you, I mean it did work with the Santa hat thing. Not really hard to see for yourself. Just equip shield In accessory, attack mob, wait for 0dmg to pop. You wont see 0dmg without shield. Oh 0's? That's cool. Yeah should be noticeable lol. Well Allright then, any shield should work I'd assume, so thanks guys! |
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Post by inrdemon on Jan 21, 2015 19:02:16 GMT
I like the extra damage from shields on my stun parry... ive gotten my stun parry over 15k on dark mobs and bosses which is a nice bonus on ush... by for the easiest boss to solo/farm for a pally
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Post by asteg on Jan 21, 2015 19:55:54 GMT
zwieg silt (from bontaingia) looks to be good if your pt doesnt have a bishop o.o i kinda want it q.q
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Post by potato on Jan 22, 2015 13:46:37 GMT
for me its increasing damage of stun parry, touching 8k+ stun parry on dark monster, not sure about the rate increasing tho, Hmm, but is the dps gains from that worth it? As a Paly shouldn't really be too worried about dpsing, but free dps gains are always welcome. I was looking at the duel shield and it actually looks like a good contender to the general tanking set, although I'd still probably would rather use an Idealsol in that case, unless the gains in proc damage overcomes stat differences. If proc rate doesn't increase then it's not really something I feel like I should be worried about. I would've hoped the increase would be like 20% proc rate with shields. try granvia shield , dmg reduction procs more than idealsol imho, but if u need the hp stick with idealsol |
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Post by asteg on Jan 22, 2015 14:59:45 GMT
Viola has a nice counter atk o.o if ur matk is high..i put sharpness II in mine and its <3
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Post by digemeat on Jan 22, 2015 16:49:28 GMT
Hmm, but is the dps gains from that worth it? As a Paly shouldn't really be too worried about dpsing, but free dps gains are always welcome. I was looking at the duel shield and it actually looks like a good contender to the general tanking set, although I'd still probably would rather use an Idealsol in that case, unless the gains in proc damage overcomes stat differences. If proc rate doesn't increase then it's not really something I feel like I should be worried about. I would've hoped the increase would be like 20% proc rate with shields. try granvia shield , dmg reduction procs more than idealsol imho, but if u need the hp stick with idealsol Wouldn't say the hp is needed. I mean comfortably it's not hard to get over 100k hp now. For the most part it's just grind grind grind. Which faster grinds I would assume relates to more guardian damage, which stems from more hp. Haven't really tried an attack build, but don't really know if it's worth creating an entire set just for attack, when hp seems to do a good job. Granvia stats? |
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Post by potato on Jan 22, 2015 22:10:55 GMT
try granvia shield , dmg reduction procs more than idealsol imho, but if u need the hp stick with idealsol Wouldn't say the hp is needed. I mean comfortably it's not hard to get over 100k hp now. For the most part it's just grind grind grind. Which faster grinds I would assume relates to more guardian damage, which stems from more hp. Haven't really tried an attack build, but don't really know if it's worth creating an entire set just for attack, when hp seems to do a good job. Granvia stats? i just hits 100k+ hp with bishop limit break buff, granvia shield stats r atk +6% range cut +10% rate cut +10% k.o time -0.5s and hidden dmg reduction |
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Post by amjroid on Jan 30, 2015 20:59:29 GMT
Does anybody know how parry rate is determined? I noticed the hoplon up has a def bonus based on agi. Could it be that agi affects parry rate? Anybody tried a agi build with parry for comparison?
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Post by digemeat on Jan 31, 2015 2:25:03 GMT
I just assumed that it was related to autoskills like basically all passives other jobs get.. Don't know that for a fact though.
Don't know if anyone would bother with a full autoskill build though, hate would probably be an issue.
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