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Post by Kirin。 on Dec 23, 2014 4:33:33 GMT
Guys Can you critique my soon to be enchanter Atm lvl 120(Playing it as an App. cleric; since i think i found heal more useful when melee-ing) Currently: Int: 200 Agi: 120; dex: 49 So Guys my question is: WHICH WOULD GIVE BETTER DPS @140? And which do you guys prefer? Build: Max Int 120agi & 53 Dex Weap: Baselard ns(will stick to this until 220 i guess for magic blade) Armor: Ultimi<>Hp20% Add. : Aulis Gale Ns Special: Volk Shoes VS. Build: 209-229Int 120agi & 80-100dex(209int if 100dex; 229int if 80dex) Weap: Baselard ns(will stick to this until 220 i guess for magic blade) Armor: Ultimi<>Hp20% Add. : Magia Hood Special: Lotus Seeds Take the stats on the first one and the gear on the 2nd one. Using Baselard all the way to 220 will make it difficult to level though. Also 120 AGI will do nothing on an Mblade build anyway so you will have to restat at some point anyways so you could go ahead and get 135 AGI to use something besides Baselard and restat at 220. Alternatively you could do a counter build which does work with Mblade(INT VIT DEX). Stat wise I would get max INT, then 158 VIT, then max DEX(this puts you at max DEX at 220), then go back to VIT. I don't know much about gearing counter builds so Imma point crazybrker this way. Oh i didnt know anything about magic blade hahaha sorry... My point with baselard is the absolute eva which you said wouldnt do much so the only benefit that i can think of is the retained matk that is lost when we use magic weapons such as pramia and dia and my main focus right now is the auto attacks and ofcourse the fireworks heheeh
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Post by _ on Dec 23, 2014 5:01:10 GMT
How about iron armor upgrade? its better then using tunic if i were to change right? Also how much is for a magia hood slot now? Iron armor is good before you change due to the added hp, but not good for chanter. One tip when choosing equip for chanter is to use equips with autoskill since thats where chanters dps mostly comes from. Example dpr up cast dark blast, magia hood cast elemental spells, ciel cast mana wave. Iron armor has no autoskill, just some hp. Last i check magia slot was like 3M to 4M magia slot is 1m now mate
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Post by Shori>.< on Dec 23, 2014 5:23:14 GMT
Iron armor is good before you change due to the added hp, but not good for chanter. One tip when choosing equip for chanter is to use equips with autoskill since thats where chanters dps mostly comes from. Example dpr up cast dark blast, magia hood cast elemental spells, ciel cast mana wave. Iron armor has no autoskill, just some hp. Last i check magia slot was like 3M to 4M magia slot is 1m now mate O.O The price sure drop fast. I think it was only 5 or so days ago that i saw someone try to sell for 3M
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Post by _ on Dec 23, 2014 5:34:44 GMT
magia slot is 1m now mate O.O The price sure drop fast. I think it was only 5 or so days ago that i saw someone try to sell for 3M operative word, TRY did it actually sell though? 9/10 times it won't sell that high, lately price has been 1m
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Post by Kirin。 on Dec 23, 2014 7:03:24 GMT
Guys Can you critique my soon to be enchanter Atm lvl 120(Playing it as an App. cleric; since i think i found heal more useful when melee-ing) Currently: Int: 200 Agi: 120; dex: 49 So Guys my question is: WHICH WOULD GIVE BETTER DPS @140? And which do you guys prefer? Build: Max Int 120agi & 53 Dex Weap: Baselard ns(will stick to this until 220 i guess for magic blade) Armor: Ultimi<>Hp20% Add. : Aulis Gale Ns Special: Volk Shoes VS. Build: 209-229Int 120agi & 80-100dex(209int if 100dex; 229int if 80dex) Weap: Baselard ns(will stick to this until 220 i guess for magic blade) Armor: Ultimi<>Hp20% Add. : Magia Hood Special: Lotus Seeds Take the stats on the first one and the gear on the 2nd one. Using Baselard all the way to 220 will make it difficult to level though. Also 120 AGI will do nothing on an Mblade build anyway so you will have to restat at some point anyways so you could go ahead and get 135 AGI to use something besides Baselard and restat at 220. Alternatively you could do a counter build which does work with Mblade(INT VIT DEX). Stat wise I would get max INT, then 158 VIT, then max DEX(this puts you at max DEX at 220), then go back to VIT. I don't know much about gearing counter builds so Imma point crazybrker this way. Any recommendations? I was afraid that my matk would decrease and hence my dps, when i use magic weaps like dia and pramia the reason having no spina to buy matk xtals hehehe help pls
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Post by Shindou on Dec 23, 2014 10:28:39 GMT
Thanks alot for all the replies, i right now i have an better idea of what i should do now but i still have some questions left which are: 1. I had seen the guide for counter type build but isn't this type not good in some situation like when the mobs aspd is very slow and so it would be better for us to atk it instead. 2. For getting Dia Espada or Hexe Espada, could i get them with 2 slot? since i know that its upgraded from boss claymore so if i want those to have 2 slot i will need to get a boss claymore with 2 slot and upgrade them to Dia/Hexe Espada? 3. I had wanted to buy DPR s but it seems that no one is selling them and so i wonder when is it that i could start hunting for it myself? 4. For my additional eq the choices are Booster, Ciel and Magia Hood right? if so what are the use of Magia hood? and isn't Ciel the better choice for an enchanter as what i had seen in manakhe guide? 5. If DPR is the best choice for armor what other armor should i use for now till i get DPR as i think the current one i am using Tunic isnt very good. Thanks again for reading my questions. By the way the guide is outdated haha. Some of the info is still useful however there are new equips out that beat what's in that guide. Oh then what are the new gears that beat those in the guide? Also i plan one maxing my INT 1st then will go for AGI next as so i don't have to heal myself everytime when farming/hunting abd lastly will go for DEX for hit rate and VIT for HP/DEF. Gear most likely will go for Dia Espada, DPR, Ciel and Lotus Seed tho i still don't know what crystal i should put into them yet as well as the new Ability for gears. Oh and what is the effect of Reduce Bangle and which mobs drop it? As well as between Enchanter and Monk which will be the better one on soloing base on the current gears that is available now.
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Post by ManaKhe on Dec 23, 2014 17:29:09 GMT
Shindou and Kirin。 you both seem to be unaware of the Enchant passive that Enchanters get. While it doesn't work with Pramia(as it is NOT a Magic Weapon) it does work with Dia Espada. It basically increases your MATK with a Magic Weapon as if it were a Throwing or Staff. The only Magic Weapons out are Magic Swords, Magic Bows, and a Magic Wand(which functions as a staff with Magic Amp, the only one out sucks really bad though. Also best auto attack gear out currently is: Dailan Scythe, Magia Hood/Glory Cape, DPR/Ultimi/Dmail, and Reduce Bangle/Boost Ring. For the sake of not completely blowing through your wallet though I would recommend Dia Espada, Magia Hood, DPR, Lotus Seeds/Reduce Bangle.
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Post by _ on Dec 23, 2014 21:56:27 GMT
Shindou and Kirin。 you both seem to be unaware of the Enchant passive that Enchanters get. While it doesn't work with Pramia(as it is NOT a Magic Weapon) it does work with Dia Espada. It basically increases your MATK with a Magic Weapon as if it were a Throwing or Staff. The only Magic Weapons out are Magic Swords, Magic Bows, and a Magic Wand(which functions as a staff with Magic Amp, the only one out sucks really bad though. Also best auto attack gear out currently is: Dailan Scythe, Magia Hood/Glory Cape, DPR/Ultimi/Dmail, and Reduce Bangle/Boost Ring. For the sake of not completely blowing through your wallet though I would recommend Dia Espada, Magia Hood, DPR, Lotus Seeds/Reduce Bangle. true but dailan scythe isn't that much. malachite is an easy farm for those doing protect the dragon, the blood scythe is fairly cheap atk 143 for 2m and the xtal for isn't more then 2m the only annoying thing is killing risen a handful of times
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Post by ManaKhe on Dec 24, 2014 6:46:32 GMT
Shindou and Kirin。 you both seem to be unaware of the Enchant passive that Enchanters get. While it doesn't work with Pramia(as it is NOT a Magic Weapon) it does work with Dia Espada. It basically increases your MATK with a Magic Weapon as if it were a Throwing or Staff. The only Magic Weapons out are Magic Swords, Magic Bows, and a Magic Wand(which functions as a staff with Magic Amp, the only one out sucks really bad though. Also best auto attack gear out currently is: Dailan Scythe, Magia Hood/Glory Cape, DPR/Ultimi/Dmail, and Reduce Bangle/Boost Ring. For the sake of not completely blowing through your wallet though I would recommend Dia Espada, Magia Hood, DPR, Lotus Seeds/Reduce Bangle. true but dailan scythe isn't that much. malachite is an easy farm for those doing protect the dragon, the blood scythe is fairly cheap atk 143 for 2m and the xtal for isn't more then 2m the only annoying thing is killing risen a handful of times True. It is completely superior to Dia Espada for Auto attack builds. So skip Dia if you can get Dailan easy xD.
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Post by _ on Dec 24, 2014 9:24:56 GMT
true but dailan scythe isn't that much. malachite is an easy farm for those doing protect the dragon, the blood scythe is fairly cheap atk 143 for 2m and the xtal for isn't more then 2m the only annoying thing is killing risen a handful of times True. It is completely superior to Dia Espada for Auto attack builds. So skip Dia if you can get Dailan easy xD. yep but dia isn't bad to have if you are fighting anything that isn't neutral, so if you have the time and spina to make it go right ahead
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Post by Kirin。 on Dec 24, 2014 11:04:22 GMT
Shindou and Kirin。 you both seem to be unaware of the Enchant passive that Enchanters get. While it doesn't work with Pramia(as it is NOT a Magic Weapon) it does work with Dia Espada. It basically increases your MATK with a Magic Weapon as if it were a Throwing or Staff. The only Magic Weapons out are Magic Swords, Magic Bows, and a Magic Wand(which functions as a staff with Magic Amp, the only one out sucks really bad though. Also best auto attack gear out currently is: Dailan Scythe, Magia Hood/Glory Cape, DPR/Ultimi/Dmail, and Reduce Bangle/Boost Ring. For the sake of not completely blowing through your wallet though I would recommend Dia Espada, Magia Hood, DPR, Lotus Seeds/Reduce Bangle. So Max Int 135dex then rest dex and as for my equips can i use laevatein, lotus seeds, magia hood & ultimi? And last question, idk if i can benefit with ultimi since enchanters have no need for skill delay until magic blade so shall i invest on dpr or is it more logical for me to save spina for matk xtals instead of dpr?
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Post by _ on Dec 24, 2014 21:20:44 GMT
Shindou and Kirin。 you both seem to be unaware of the Enchant passive that Enchanters get. While it doesn't work with Pramia(as it is NOT a Magic Weapon) it does work with Dia Espada. It basically increases your MATK with a Magic Weapon as if it were a Throwing or Staff. The only Magic Weapons out are Magic Swords, Magic Bows, and a Magic Wand(which functions as a staff with Magic Amp, the only one out sucks really bad though. Also best auto attack gear out currently is: Dailan Scythe, Magia Hood/Glory Cape, DPR/Ultimi/Dmail, and Reduce Bangle/Boost Ring. For the sake of not completely blowing through your wallet though I would recommend Dia Espada, Magia Hood, DPR, Lotus Seeds/Reduce Bangle. So Max Int 135dex then rest dex and as for my equips can i use laevatein, lotus seeds, magia hood & ultimi? And last question, idk if i can benefit with ultimi since enchanters have no need for skill delay until magic blade so shall i invest on dpr or is it more logical for me to save spina for matk xtals instead of dpr? dpr up truly is only viable for the auto skill% so if you farmed one slot just up, its a fairly easy up set, if not just go for matk xtals, unless you plan on spamming skills (m.blade) i would suggest gerust in weapon (20% matk with 1 sec delay) if you get any of ya weapons 2s i would put 2 gerust (2sec delay isn't tooooooo bad if you have max dex or close to max since you rely more on auto attack and the auto skills then you do on skills besides s.s and enchant when buffing etc) armor you can get shojo (i believe the 5% stacks with elemental auto skills you might have like magias thor/blizz/eq/ms and 5% matk is always good unless you have cast for moldus) dunkelis in additional is best since you don't rely on auto mp regen and mezza in special if you got the cash or for just extra damage throw in a wol (yes ik its not an auto skill or matk xtal but wol has a double attack effect which could benefit you since i believe it ramps with auto skill%)
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Post by ManaKhe on Dec 25, 2014 4:01:35 GMT
Order of things to do as an Enchanter: 1)Get to 140 2)Get a Dailan Scythe/Pramia/Dia Espada. Preferably Dailan Scythe(you can do this while leveling to 140 3)Get Lotus Seeds 4)Get Magia Hood 5)Get DPR slot up 6)Get Ruduce Bangle or Boost Ring if you haven't yet(Both are fairly easy, feel free to get these instead of Lotus Seeds) 7)Get MATK xtals and continue leveling to 220 8)Decide if you want to go Magic Blade and tank bosses all the time(I have not been a DPS in a boss since it came out, just double tank parties)
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Post by ManaKhe on Dec 25, 2014 4:02:50 GMT
True. It is completely superior to Dia Espada for Auto attack builds. So skip Dia if you can get Dailan easy xD. yep but dia isn't bad to have if you are fighting anything that isn't neutral, so if you have the time and spina to make it go right ahead Dia is purely for Magic Blade builds at this point. Dailan will get you more MATK and has a much better Autoskill even on water mobs.
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Post by Shindou on Dec 25, 2014 4:52:12 GMT
Order of things to do as an Enchanter: 1)Get to 140 2)Get a Dailan Scythe/Pramia/Dia Espada. Preferably Dailan Scythe(you can do this while leveling to 140 3)Get Lotus Seeds 4)Get Magia Hood 5)Get DPR slot up 6)Get Ruduce Bangle or Boost Ring if you haven't yet(Both are fairly easy, feel free to get these instead of Lotus Seeds) 7)Get MATK xtals and continue leveling to 220 8)Decide if you want to go Magic Blade and tank bosses all the time(I have not been a DPS in a boss since it came out, just double tank parties) Mind telling mi how/where to get Dailan Scythe? and also what is the effect of Reduce Bangle?(i had been asking this for few times but no answer lol)
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