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Post by HawkEyè5 on Dec 10, 2014 5:06:03 GMT
Start off regular build for your sniper DEX>STR>CRT-AR Spammer AGI>CRT>DEX-Auto Attack DEX>INT>CRT-Magic Bow Either way than after we get status release you train INT and try to double max it. That's (2*512=1024+ base weapon and 1.5*256=384)=somewhere around 1700 white damage. 4170 critical damage. And if restat or Arrow Rain even more damage. This would possibly make it strongest arrow rain DPS over DEX>STR>CRT build, and magic bow build so higher MDEF and MP tank. Seele Bow ATK: 43-53-58 according to the magic bow Lv time of the attack that ATK is increased, the magic attack available in probability: Herald of the Underworld (Eternity Maze) Lv205 Sale price: 100,000 Remarks: ATK increases as half of the level Here is link for status release info if don't know what it is. irunaonline.boards.net/thread/7088/status-releaseHere is straight magic build link. irunaonline.boards.net/thread/3082/magic-bow-sniperMainly for already high lvl sniper to think about 200+.  |
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Post by Ryukengan on Dec 10, 2014 14:22:41 GMT
INT DEX CRT can only be stronger than STR DEX CRT if you get the Chakra buff of a Monk, however INT DEX CRT is very convenient to level as. You can sustain your MP with a Bishop buffing you much more easily, high MDEF allows for easier mob farm and your Venom Attack damage packs a good punch too.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Dec 12, 2014 4:20:50 GMT
Start off regular build for your sniper DEX>STR>CRT-AR Spammer AGI>CRT>DEX-Auto Attack DEX>INT>CRT-Magic Bow Either way than after we get status release you train INT and try to double max it. That's (2*512=1024+ base weapon and 1.5*256=384)=somewhere around 1700 white damage. 4170 critical damage. And if restat or Arrow Rain even more damage. This would possibly make it strongest arrow rain DPS over DEX>STR>CRT build, and magic bow build so higher MDEF and MP tank. Seele Bow ATK: 43-53-58 according to the magic bow Lv time of the attack that ATK is increased, the magic attack available in probability: Herald of the Underworld (Eternity Maze) Lv205 Sale price: 100,000 Remarks: ATK increases as half of the level Here is link for status release info if don't know what it is. irunaonline.boards.net/thread/7088/status-releaseHere is straight magic build link. irunaonline.boards.net/thread/3082/magic-bow-sniperMainly for already high lvl sniper to think about 200+. I'm not sure why you think magic bow will have better DPS when: 1) INT/DEX gets 2ATK per INT, 1.5ATK per DEX with magic bow = 3.5ATK per pair STR/DEX gets 2ATK per STR or DEX with normal bow = 4ATK per pair 2) Seele bow 53ATK +9 refine would give around 96ATK, this is lower than a Vio with no refine. Yes seele adds ATK per half your level but you need to be 400+ to have the same bonus as a +9 Vio. Based on the 2 points above, your base ATK will be higher with STR/DEX. This gap will widen some more once you introduce +%ATK xtals, especially if you go 5slot. 3) If you go STR/DEX you can use elemental bows. |
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Post by HawkEyè5 on Dec 12, 2014 4:28:28 GMT
I mentioned staus release for that reason. It let's you go past max stats. Even then it would still most likely be number 2 to STR>DEX build but it would be nice to not be killed by simple magic attack by boss with mdef.
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Post by Umaru-chan on Dec 12, 2014 4:43:03 GMT
This is cool if you want to be different and standout the problem is leveling... I think max dex first then int but Mr. miligrito really have a point in terms of damage
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Post by Jeancarlo on Dec 12, 2014 17:22:16 GMT
I mentioned staus release for that reason. It let's you go past max stats. Even then it would still most likely be number 2 to STR>DEX build but it would be nice to not be killed by simple magic attack by boss with mdef. Even if the Stat numbers made a Magic bow build equal to a DEX/STR build, you still lose out on a lot of things that a "regular" bow user has access to. As already mentioned, Elem bows, which by themselves adds 10% DMG. Then you add in the various buffs that normal bows have that (the two?) magic bows have. From the -skill delays, to Diabolos' +10%ATK + 10% CRT DMG (that's like having a 2S Seele bow Before you slot the Diablos) |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Dec 13, 2014 0:00:33 GMT
I mentioned staus release for that reason. It let's you go past max stats. Even then it would still most likely be number 2 to STR>DEX build but it would be nice to not be killed by simple magic attack by boss with mdef. Even if the Stat numbers made a Magic bow build equal to a DEX/STR build, you still lose out on a lot of things that a "regular" bow user has access to. As already mentioned, Elem bows, which by themselves adds 10% DMG. Then you add in the various buffs that normal bows have that (the two?) magic bows have. From the -skill delays, to Diabolos' +10%ATK + 10% CRT DMG (that's like having a 2S Seele bow Before you slot the Diablos) I think elementals do 20% more. Only 2nd level elements do 10% on same element. |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Dec 13, 2014 0:13:49 GMT
Even if the Stat numbers made a Magic bow build equal to a DEX/STR build, you still lose out on a lot of things that a "regular" bow user has access to. As already mentioned, Elem bows, which by themselves adds 10% DMG. Then you add in the various buffs that normal bows have that (the two?) magic bows have. From the -skill delays, to Diabolos' +10%ATK + 10% CRT DMG (that's like having a 2S Seele bow Before you slot the Diablos) I think elementals do 20% more. Only 2nd level elements do 10% on same element. Ah, I thought 20% was on 2nd level like Helshaft's Gaia ? Anyway, point was that Magic bow (and Spc too except Wind) miss out on the elem dmg until Elem magic/spc bows come out. EDIT: BTW, meant to mention earlier that doing a Magic bow build is NOT a bad idea, it's just not in competition for DD as other builds. |
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Post by godofafro on Dec 13, 2014 1:23:34 GMT
about maxing Int for the benefit of having more mdef -
it will provide some shelter against bosses that strikes magic attacks- but due to the low hp sniper possesses, these bosses will already one hit you with those attacks.
It's great when facing low level bosses, but its a minor complentary negation when wising up against ones like, tarna for example.
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Post by ManaKhe on Dec 13, 2014 3:11:24 GMT
about maxing Int for the benefit of having more mdef - it will provide some shelter against bosses that strikes magic attacks- but due to the low hp sniper possesses, these bosses will already one hit you with those attacks. It's great when facing low level bosses, but its a minor complentary negation when wising up against ones like, tarna for example. Agreed ^^ Also if you care about survivability on a Sniper then you picked the wrong class xD. Also, based on my experience with Mr FlareWk that I'm quoting, it's about a 20% increase in damage for him. Snipers will also have much higher ATK to begin with then Sins so the difference will be even less. There are also much better Regular Bows(even excluding Elem Bows) than Magic Bows. Celtis is 15% ATK and there's a Bow from Production that gives 20% ATK. Magic Bow builds are only for Snipers who don't want to be as MP hungry before 240. After 240 Crossfire is way cheaper MP wise than AR so that's the way to go then, which would mean using Celtis or the Production bow. |
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Post by HawkEyè5 on Dec 13, 2014 5:13:22 GMT
Through and through the main reason I need the criticism on this is I just don't want to be another standard for sniper. Like some people have said if you want to be different than thats OK. Its not about being better. In the end DEX>STR build is the best. Even after status release. More bows more choices. But I like the non normal choices. Auto atk for evasion/speed and magic bow for mp tank and mdef
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Post by jahleel07 on Dec 13, 2014 5:47:05 GMT
having high mp is good, but you need to use more MP pots to fill it up or sitting longer for MP to replenish, or having a bish/hw buddy to bless/mp regen you :3 and yes in the end, magic bow build wouldn't or can't out-damage Crossfire type build, even with status release, just an opinion :3
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