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Post by chelsea on Nov 15, 2014 4:55:33 GMT
This is my first theard, im a capped lvl ninja. planning to build a ninja that can survive stun w hp n utsusemi skill when get hit(idk how to survive stun w/o than that). need u guys advice. As i play never got hit over than 16k when stuned so im planing to make 20k+ hp which i counted is w iron armor up n hp abi lv 5 add acc n armor is 150vit.
So i go for this 2 build for it(after stat release) 1.fullagi/fullcrt/256dex/150vit w full spec bow nin equip + thimble s Pros: faster skill delay n cast tym(sometime for paralysis boss), faster bunshin n desperate move(up to u can just tab bunshin all tym w tanking boss w no -sd gear) Cons: atk -150 bcoz of vit 2.full agi/full crt/256 str/150vit w claw or spec bow full eq w.kongo arrow s/arleta s 2a.Claw Pros: w claw its doesnt red atk coz of vit Cons:w low skill delay 2b.spec bow Pros:idk can use claw Cons:atk -150 bcoz of vit
Which ur guys think are better or there is a way to survive better than hp just case when stunned. Tyvm guys
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Roxzen
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Goodbye :) Thanks for the memories Iruna, the Forums was an awesome place!
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Post by Roxzen on Nov 15, 2014 7:18:40 GMT
I noticed I've had an easier time surviving stun as my evasion got higher, although it isn't 100% survivability.
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Post by MadMoon on Nov 16, 2014 19:47:09 GMT
jst wondering... but hw do u plan to kill mobs... i mean... ur hp would be too high so making clones would be difficult and viceversa~
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caporal
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WHAT DOESN'T KILL ME, GIVES ME EXP
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Post by caporal on Nov 16, 2014 20:17:15 GMT
So i go for this 2 build for it(after stat release) 1.fullagi/fullcrt/256dex/150vit w full spec bow nin equip + thimble s Pros: faster skill delay n cast tym(sometime for paralysis boss), faster bunshin n desperate move(up to u can just tab bunshin all tym w tanking boss w no -sd gear) Cons: atk -150 bcoz of vit 2.full agi/full crt/256 str/150vit w claw or spec bow full eq w.kongo arrow s/arleta s you need to be lvl 306 to have 3 stats cap and 150 vit good luck
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caporal
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WHAT DOESN'T KILL ME, GIVES ME EXP
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Post by caporal on Nov 16, 2014 20:21:31 GMT
jst wondering... but hw do u plan to kill mobs... i mean... ur hp would be too high so making clones would be difficult and viceversa~ he will use only 3 clones that enough. People try to keep 9 clones to avoid get hit if they run out of clone because they would die (and to deal better dmg with doc) , but if you have lot of hp and you run out of clones, you can survive even without clones and then do bushin again
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wsplisw
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Post by wsplisw on Nov 16, 2014 20:32:11 GMT
Hmmm theres something I would like to tell ya... like this build is great but ninja skills go against that o.o Like you will only be able to do 3 clones, that would take away the idea to use DoC (unless you choose dex build) because you would stay more time spamming bushin no jutsu than actually atacking, unless you use ganei set that would take you to low hp, that would take your idea away because your hp would be dramatically reduced to 10% (if not using -hp equips, just 3 ganei) , and ninjas do not have a heal high enough to regain that hp after cloning, making you a party dependent, so on my opinion would be better invest on a eva set. But that dont get your idea away because already saw a high hp ninja soloing big bosses like isurugi and vasaria, so it´s most dependent on the way you will invest on that and the equips you choose... Good Luck on this build !!!
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Roxzen
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Goodbye :) Thanks for the memories Iruna, the Forums was an awesome place!
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Post by Roxzen on Nov 16, 2014 20:53:44 GMT
Tbh i haven't confirmed it yet but, isn't cloning hp% based and -100% hp should always turn out as 1 hp no matter how high your base hp is?
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wsplisw
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Post by wsplisw on Nov 16, 2014 21:06:22 GMT
Tbh i haven't confirmed it yet but, isn't cloning hp% based and -100% hp should always turn out as 1 hp no matter how high your base hp is? Nope u can make clones whith -90% hp also but its better 1 hp because of skills like bless that can take your hp more than 10%
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Post by chelsea on Nov 16, 2014 23:07:55 GMT
Start when tanking moldus(maybe thousand times) i hav around 2000+hp no ganei w ganei 300-400hp. So as a nin i use full ganei set. Then i realize moldus normal atk when i was stuned is only 1700-1900dmg so damn utsusemi skill proc so high. Ill leave to ur interpretation for this. Ps: pls appreciate my info bout this utsusemi skill its not easy to get this info ty
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Post by chelsea on Nov 16, 2014 23:08:31 GMT
Hell nah. Ill just add stats point from stats release for 150vit.
Ninja can solo vasaria but when she stun its different matter so we cant constantly solo it. So Im planning to make 9 clone before in boss room>doc>atk>doc>atk(*no desperate move>clone 1or2bunshin>atk>bunshin>atk>out boss room>9clone again Ill use -hp gear as u know to make 9 clone and make hp full before in.
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Post by MadMoon on Nov 17, 2014 11:02:27 GMT
then... the dmg should be very low xp only way i think it might work is doing wat tookoov(forgot name, but almst xp) does, using empedracle+Surcoat~
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wsplisw
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Post by wsplisw on Nov 17, 2014 14:21:25 GMT
Hell nah. Ill just add stats point from stats release for 150vit. Ninja can solo vasaria but when she stun its different matter so we cant constantly solo it. So Im planning to make 9 clone before in boss room>doc>atk>doc>atk(*no desperate move>clone 1or2bunshin>atk>bunshin>atk>out boss room>9clone again Ill use -hp gear as u know to make 9 clone and make hp full before in. Well your damage will be lower than others that invested that stats release points on agi and crit and dex/str, you doc will be low damage unless you get a set of damage after rec hp... but also you will need a hp set for that 15k hp because 150 still not enough for that 15k base hp... and till rec the full hp after clones will take much time unless you are with a healer, also the bosses damage are getting higher and higher, but if u choose the dex as third status u can use that on your side using the thunder skill to keep boss paralyzed that would make you on advantage of the boss as you said before...
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Post by tookoozv on Nov 18, 2014 4:26:48 GMT
Hell nah. Ill just add stats point from stats release for 150vit. Ninja can solo vasaria but when she stun its different matter so we cant constantly solo it. So Im planning to make 9 clone before in boss room>doc>atk>doc>atk(*no desperate move>clone 1or2bunshin>atk>bunshin>atk>out boss room>9clone again Ill use -hp gear as u know to make 9 clone and make hp full before in. Well your damage will be lower than others that invested that stats release points on agi and crit and dex/str, you doc will be low damage unless you get a set of damage after rec hp... but also you will need a hp set for that 15k hp because 150 still not enough for that 15k base hp... and till rec the full hp after clones will take much time unless you are with a healer, also the bosses damage are getting higher and higher, but if u choose the dex as third status u can use that on your side using the thunder skill to keep boss paralyzed that would make you on advantage of the boss as you said before... Ninja's thunder skill that put paralyze effect on mobs/bosses is not like hw's skill.Effect disapear as soon as u lay the 1st hit on mobs/bosses. Even if you're max int/dex is still the same.
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Post by chelsea on Nov 18, 2014 8:50:22 GMT
Well your damage will be lower than others that invested that stats release points on agi and crit and dex/str, you doc will be low damage unless you get a set of damage after rec hp... but also you will need a hp set for that 15k hp because 150 still not enough for that 15k base hp... and till rec the full hp after clones will take much time unless you are with a healer, also the bosses damage are getting higher and higher, but if u choose the dex as third status u can use that on your side using the thunder skill to keep boss paralyzed that would make you on advantage of the boss as you said before... Ninja's thunder skill that put paralyze effect on mobs/bosses is not like hw's skill.Effect disapear as soon as u lay the 1st hit on mobs/bosses. Even if you're max int/dex is still the same. Lmao i even tested it once again, no its not.
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wsplisw
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Post by wsplisw on Nov 18, 2014 14:29:21 GMT
Well your damage will be lower than others that invested that stats release points on agi and crit and dex/str, you doc will be low damage unless you get a set of damage after rec hp... but also you will need a hp set for that 15k hp because 150 still not enough for that 15k base hp... and till rec the full hp after clones will take much time unless you are with a healer, also the bosses damage are getting higher and higher, but if u choose the dex as third status u can use that on your side using the thunder skill to keep boss paralyzed that would make you on advantage of the boss as you said before... Ninja's thunder skill that put paralyze effect on mobs/bosses is not like hw's skill.Effect disapear as soon as u lay the 1st hit on mobs/bosses. Even if you're max int/dex is still the same. Wew so it´s another con about that build... thx for sharing
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