Yazmat
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Pally Lv351 | Alchy Lv318
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Post by Yazmat on Feb 16, 2015 10:29:40 GMT
We get extra Al Chrysta page after 500times ignite per JP wiki. Is this information correct? I am halfway at the moment at 260+times and am wondering since I might want to ignite more frequently just to get the extra page. But, if I did understand correctly, the extra page is just for switching, the effects of all pages are not stacked together. Not sure if this correct or not... |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 16, 2015 11:37:25 GMT
We get extra Al Chrysta page after 500times ignite per JP wiki. Is this information correct? I am halfway at the moment at 260+times and am wondering since I might want to ignite more frequently just to get the extra page. But, if I did understand correctly, the extra page is just for switching, the effects of all pages are not stacked together. Not sure if this correct or not... Well yes. I just wanted to have a different config. (I.e. use purple and make my pally auto attack with no agi for lazy farming) |
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Post by Famine on Feb 16, 2015 16:34:18 GMT
We get extra Al Chrysta page after 500times ignite per JP wiki. Is this information correct? I am halfway at the moment at 260+times and am wondering since I might want to ignite more frequently just to get the extra page. I actually haven't been active enough to get my uses that high sadly  , but it looks like it is in game already. Information |
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Post by Shindou on Feb 17, 2015 16:09:08 GMT
Hi all, i got a question regarding AI Christa.
If i am going for Auto skill lines, what color of special stats should i add to increase the effect from purple link? Blue or Red?
Also the effect boost of the lines is very different from what the information had given from the jp wiki.
As currently i has 2 purple lines, so my Atk Spd should be 30%+20% so is 50% increase in my atk spd.
But what i had calculate from my atk spd before getting the 2 purple lines is not 50% but only like 9.91% increase in atk spd, which the difference is a lot 40+%.
Unless the special stats helps to boost the 9.91% to 50% when at max which i do not know so i need someone to help with this as well.
Thank you for reading.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 17, 2015 16:38:48 GMT
Hi all, i got a question regarding AI Christa. If i am going for Auto skill lines, what color of special stats should i add to increase the effect from purple link? Blue or Red? Also the effect boost of the lines is very different from what the information had given from the jp wiki. As currently i has 2 purple lines, so my Atk Spd should be 30%+20% so is 50% increase in my atk spd. But what i had calculate from my atk spd before getting the 2 purple lines is not 50% but only like 9.91% increase in atk spd, which the difference is a lot 40+%. Unless the special stats helps to boost the 9.91% to 50% when at max which i do not know so i need someone to help with this as well. Thank you for reading. What was your aspd before and after? also what class and stat? |
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Post by Shindou on Feb 17, 2015 16:42:19 GMT
Hi all, i got a question regarding AI Christa. If i am going for Auto skill lines, what color of special stats should i add to increase the effect from purple link? Blue or Red? Also the effect boost of the lines is very different from what the information had given from the jp wiki. As currently i has 2 purple lines, so my Atk Spd should be 30%+20% so is 50% increase in my atk spd. But what i had calculate from my atk spd before getting the 2 purple lines is not 50% but only like 9.91% increase in atk spd, which the difference is a lot 40+%. Unless the special stats helps to boost the 9.91% to 50% when at max which i do not know so i need someone to help with this as well. Thank you for reading. What was your aspd before and after? Using Sword without purple line effect bonus nor atk spd bonus from gears is at 343. After getting purple line effect bonus, atk spd is now at 377. Enchanter, agi 135. |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 18, 2015 0:01:49 GMT
What was your aspd before and after? Using Sword without purple line effect bonus nor atk spd bonus from gears is at 343. After getting purple line effect bonus, atk spd is now at 377. Enchanter, agi 135. Interesting. So what you have Is 343+10%=377 with 2 lines I assume It Is 5% per line. I it appears that purple bonus Is nerfed. Im not surprised tho, It looked too OP to have. are you forming 6 lines? Let me know what you get so we can correct the Info. Thanks for sharing. |
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Post by Shindou on Feb 18, 2015 0:38:20 GMT
Using Sword without purple line effect bonus nor atk spd bonus from gears is at 343. After getting purple line effect bonus, atk spd is now at 377. Enchanter, agi 135. Interesting. So what you have Is 343+10%=377 with 2 lines I assume It Is 5% per line. I it appears that purple bonus Is nerfed. Im not surprised tho, It looked too OP to have. are you forming 6 lines? Let me know what you get so we can correct the Info. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, i am going for 6 lines and can i know if i wanna boost my purple lines which special stats should i add? Red? Blue? Green? |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 18, 2015 0:51:51 GMT
Interesting. So what you have Is 343+10%=377 with 2 lines I assume It Is 5% per line. I it appears that purple bonus Is nerfed. Im not surprised tho, It looked too OP to have. are you forming 6 lines? Let me know what you get so we can correct the Info. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, i am going for 6 lines and can i know if i wanna boost my purple lines which special stats should i add? Red? Blue? Green? Purple = BLUE + RED I reckon both will give the boost I just couldn't tell how much. My suspicion is you get half bonus from each color so it might be wiser to invest only on 1 color (either BLUE or RED, whichever 2 line you chose to pair with 6 purple lines) |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 18, 2015 0:54:01 GMT
Using Sword without purple line effect bonus nor atk spd bonus from gears is at 343. After getting purple line effect bonus, atk spd is now at 377. Enchanter, agi 135. Interesting. So what you have Is 343+10%=377 with 2 lines I assume It Is 5% per line. I it appears that purple bonus Is nerfed. Im not surprised tho, It looked too OP to have. are you forming 6 lines? Let me know what you get so we can correct the Info. Thanks for sharing. Curious, why you think the purple line would be OP if it worked as advertized? Especially in light of other alternatives (e.g. more m/atk, more hp etc) and fairly low hard cap of aspd, the only people this would benefit would be those with low aspd/low agi builds.
Now if this was ASPD AND CSPD, then yea, I would agree it's OP, mostly because there is no cap on CSPD for most spells.
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 18, 2015 1:12:44 GMT
Interesting. So what you have Is 343+10%=377 with 2 lines I assume It Is 5% per line. I it appears that purple bonus Is nerfed. Im not surprised tho, It looked too OP to have. are you forming 6 lines? Let me know what you get so we can correct the Info. Thanks for sharing. Curious, why you think the purple line would be OP if it worked as advertized? Especially in light of other alternatives (e.g. more m/atk, more hp etc) and fairly low hard cap of aspd, the only people this would benefit would be those with low aspd/low agi builds.
Now if this was ASPD AND CSPD, then yea, I would agree it's OP, mostly because there is no cap on CSPD for most spells.
Yes, it is OP for low AGI builds. Normally Enchanters are split on becoming Mblade spammers and Auto because of the investment of AGI for ASPD. If it worked per advertised, you may not need to invest on AGI to have maxASPD+full INT/VIT, which will allow them to solo alot of bosses long before they get stone skin and they can conveniently switch to Mblade once they reach the level requirement. The crit rate jives so well with this that you do not need to invest on CRT (or gear up) to hit mobs which is perfect for auto attackers. You can focus more on autoskil abilities rather than technique because it is no longer needed. I planned to have this on Pally too for lazy farm. max ASPD with no investment in AGI is a difficult feat, which is why i think it is OP. |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 18, 2015 1:33:08 GMT
Curious, why you think the purple line would be OP if it worked as advertized? Especially in light of other alternatives (e.g. more m/atk, more hp etc) and fairly low hard cap of aspd, the only people this would benefit would be those with low aspd/low agi builds.
Now if this was ASPD AND CSPD, then yea, I would agree it's OP, mostly because there is no cap on CSPD for most spells.
Yes, it is OP for low AGI builds. Normally Enchanters are split on becoming Mblade spammers and Auto because of the investment of AGI for ASPD. If it worked per advertised, you may not need to invest on AGI to have maxASPD+full INT/VIT, which will allow them to solo alot of bosses long before they get stone skin and they can conveniently switch to Mblade once they reach the level requirement. The crit rate jives so well with this that you do not need to invest on CRT (or gear up) to hit mobs which is perfect for auto attackers. You can focus more on autoskil abilities rather than technique because it is no longer needed. I planned to have this on Pally too for lazy farm. max ASPD with no investment in AGI is a difficult feat, which is why i think it is OP. All true (though I kinda raised an eye brow on the PLD lazy farm idea lol; what dmg per hit are you looking at for an AA build?) but what I'm saying is that they'd have to invest the entire AI grid for that - or at least a good chunk of it, which means loosing out on other possibilities. Put it this way, (caveat I don't know that much about Ench class) how much would a Full purple line save them in AGI stats? Convert that to how much MATK/ATK they would have gained with a corresponding grid? |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 18, 2015 2:06:33 GMT
Yes, it is OP for low AGI builds. Normally Enchanters are split on becoming Mblade spammers and Auto because of the investment of AGI for ASPD. If it worked per advertised, you may not need to invest on AGI to have maxASPD+full INT/VIT, which will allow them to solo alot of bosses long before they get stone skin and they can conveniently switch to Mblade once they reach the level requirement. The crit rate jives so well with this that you do not need to invest on CRT (or gear up) to hit mobs which is perfect for auto attackers. You can focus more on autoskil abilities rather than technique because it is no longer needed. I planned to have this on Pally too for lazy farm. max ASPD with no investment in AGI is a difficult feat, which is why i think it is OP. All true (though I kinda raised an eye brow on the PLD lazy farm idea lol; what dmg per hit are you looking at for an AA build?) but what I'm saying is that they'd have to invest the entire AI grid for that - or at least a good chunk of it, which means loosing out on other possibilities. Put it this way, (caveat I don't know that much about Ench class) how much would a Full purple line save them in AGI stats? Convert that to how much MATK/ATK they would have gained with a corresponding grid? Yes you do lose out on matk. But I think that Is easily covered by the 50% more normal atk dmg and 95% hit rate which ensures that your auto procs more. This aside from +autoskill%. |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 19, 2015 3:43:23 GMT
Well, this is interesting. According to the table, 3 yellows should give 100 atk, though I suspect it was meant to be 150, 60+50+40. How ever, I am not getting either amounts. will post pix later but I went from 1973 atk to 2038' total diff of 65 pts   |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 19, 2015 4:25:58 GMT
Matk went up 23 pts after adding final 2 blue-green line. Interestingly enough, 2nd blue line also gave 80 mdef   |
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, but it looks like it is in game already.
