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Post by sushi on Feb 10, 2015 20:05:48 GMT
Gosh I'm confused...I was ready to place 3 greens and 2 reds on my Ninja, but if I do that, will it DECREASE my ATK instead if I formed 6 lines of yellow and 2 green lines? (Basing this off from the given chart, that is) Should I stick to 2 yellow lines...? Or maybe the effect doesn't decrease my ATK, the previous attack bonus is still there, but the more lines i place, the less the bonus (but it won't decrease my atk, it still increases it, although just less the more lines i connect)? Is that how it is? Hmmm chiming in though I am still learning this myself. Done properly, 3 Green + 2 red AI = 6 Yellow and 2 Green lines, so not sure what it is you're comparing? Yellow is your ATK while Green is EVA. Even with Diminishing return, 6 Yellow > 2 Yellow for ATK. Maybe it's just my poor comprehension of:
[Yellow]
Red-green → yellow ATK · physical through physical power-UP
1 line ATK + 10, + through physical?%, Physical power +70
2 line ATK + 50, + through physical?%, Physical power +59
3 line ATK + 40, + through physical?%, Physical power +48
4 line ATK + 30, + through physical?%, Physical power +37
5 line ATK + 20, + through physical?%, Physical power +26
6 line ATK + 10, + through physical?%, Physical power +15
But I'm wondering if that ^ means 2 lines would be best (2 line ATK + 50, + through physical?%, Physical power +59 ) and making it 6 lines will eventually lessen my atk to: (6 line ATK + 10, + through physical?%, Physical power +15)? Or does it adds up the bonuses the more lines I add? ( I'm so sorry this table just confuses me ;^;) |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 10, 2015 20:10:22 GMT
Hmmm chiming in though I am still learning this myself. Done properly, 3 Green + 2 red AI = 6 Yellow and 2 Green lines, so not sure what it is you're comparing? Yellow is your ATK while Green is EVA. Even with Diminishing return, 6 Yellow > 2 Yellow for ATK. Maybe it's just my poor comprehension of:
[Yellow]
Red-green → yellow ATK · physical through physical power-UP
1 line ATK + 10, + through physical?%, Physical power +70
2 line ATK + 50, + through physical?%, Physical power +59
3 line ATK + 40, + through physical?%, Physical power +48
4 line ATK + 30, + through physical?%, Physical power +37
5 line ATK + 20, + through physical?%, Physical power +26
6 line ATK + 10, + through physical?%, Physical power +15
But I'm wondering if that ^ means 2 lines would be best (2 line ATK + 50, + through physical?%, Physical power +59 ) and making it 6 lines will eventually lessen my atk to: (6 line ATK + 10, + through physical?%, Physical power +15)? Or does it adds up the bonuses the more lines I add? ( I'm so sorry this table just confuses me ;^;) 1, I Think that 1 Line should be +60; other wise it doesn't match the sequence 2. Each additional line adds a continuously decreasing amount - I believe this is where the diminishing return comes in So say you have 1 line. You get +60. You have 2 lines, you get +60+50 or 110. 3 lines = +60+50+40 or 150 etc Again, still learning this myself so would like someone else to chime in just in case  |
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Post by Famine on Feb 10, 2015 21:15:31 GMT
Gosh I'm confused...I was ready to place 3 greens and 2 reds on my Ninja, but if I do that, will it DECREASE my ATK instead if I formed 6 lines of yellow and 2 green lines? (Basing this off from the given chart, that is) Should I stick to 2 yellow lines...? Or maybe the effect doesn't decrease my ATK, the previous attack bonus is still there, but the more lines i place, the less the bonus (but it won't decrease my atk, it still increases it, although just less the more lines i connect)? Is that how it is? I'm pretty sure they stack like amjroid said, so each line would add on to the next one. |
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Post by amjroid on Feb 10, 2015 23:41:32 GMT
Gosh I'm confused...I was ready to place 3 greens and 2 reds on my Ninja, but if I do that, will it DECREASE my ATK instead if I formed 6 lines of yellow and 2 green lines? (Basing this off from the given chart, that is) Should I stick to 2 yellow lines...? Or maybe the effect doesn't decrease my ATK, the previous attack bonus is still there, but the more lines i place, the less the bonus (but it won't decrease my atk, it still increases it, although just less the more lines i connect)? Is that how it is? I'm pretty sure they stack like amjroid said, so each line would add on to the next one. I haven't actually tested this, but the way "the bandaged girl" explained it (after the quest where you collect 5 crystals from the goriapes) it sounded to me like the bonuses accumulate with added lines. I wish I had recorded her exact words, but didn't think about it at the time... For anybody who hasn't completed that quest yet, can you please try to record the explanations from bandaged girl and post them here? Thanks! |
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ruby
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Kijimu is the best pet!
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Post by ruby on Feb 12, 2015 23:06:55 GMT
just a quick question, can I have mine this way?  |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 12, 2015 23:09:24 GMT
just a quick question, can I have mine this way? I would think so? I haven't played with mine yet but I don't think there's any restriction on what you can put in. As long as you have 2 spots to line up, it would work for that line, and beyond (Nice diagram btw ) |
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 13, 2015 0:00:31 GMT
just a quick question, can I have mine this way? You get 2 yellow lines. But yeah, you can. Oh sorry 3 yellows. Drawing Is confusing. |
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ruby
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Kijimu is the best pet!
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Post by ruby on Feb 13, 2015 0:41:04 GMT
just a quick question, can I have mine this way? I would think so? I haven't played with mine yet but I don't think there's any restriction on what you can put in. As long as you have 2 spots to line up, it would work for that line, and beyond (Nice diagram btw ) just a quick question, can I have mine this way? You get 2 yellow lines. But yeah, you can. Oh sorry 3 yellows. Drawing Is confusing. thanks! haha. btw since the AI crystas only add +1 stat, so I assume the int/str/vit type does not really matter right? the one that matter is their color. oh and when will AI crystas be available? just finished my part II main quest yesterday and cant seems to find my crystal page |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 13, 2015 0:58:01 GMT
I would think so? I haven't played with mine yet but I don't think there's any restriction on what you can put in. As long as you have 2 spots to line up, it would work for that line, and beyond (Nice diagram btw ) You get 2 yellow lines. But yeah, you can. Oh sorry 3 yellows. Drawing Is confusing. thanks! haha. btw since the AI crystas only add +1 stat, so I assume the int/str/vit type does not really matter right? the one that matter is their color. oh and when will AI crystas be available? just finished my part II main quest yesterday and cant seems to find my crystal page AI Crysta is out now and can be accessed when you finish EPISODE 2. I Think it opens up after you talk to the NPC in the new town. Go to you Stat page, and if you look at bottom Left, you see a little arrow pointing to the right. Click that and you get to see 4 more panels (Crysta, Stat training, the "other" training" and Ignition) |
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Post by _ on Feb 13, 2015 1:28:10 GMT
thanks! haha. btw since the AI crystas only add +1 stat, so I assume the int/str/vit type does not really matter right? the one that matter is their color. oh and when will AI crystas be available? just finished my part II main quest yesterday and cant seems to find my crystal page AI Crysta is out now and can be accessed when you finish EPISODE 2. I Think it opens up after you talk to the NPC in the new town. Go to you Stat page, and if you look at bottom Left, you see a little arrow pointing to the right. Click that and you get to see 4 more panels (Crysta, Stat training, the "other" training" and Ignition) could've sworn it was after beating zazel, i couldn't access mine till zazel` was just a burning husk of what she used to be owo or my memory is fading >.> |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 13, 2015 1:34:53 GMT
AI Crysta is out now and can be accessed when you finish EPISODE 2. I Think it opens up after you talk to the NPC in the new town. Go to you Stat page, and if you look at bottom Left, you see a little arrow pointing to the right. Click that and you get to see 4 more panels (Crysta, Stat training, the "other" training" and Ignition) could've sworn it was after beating zazel, i couldn't access mine till zazel` was just a burning husk of what she used to be owo or my memory is fading >.> heh, one or the other I guess. I thought I got my first xta Before Zazel but maybe not |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 13, 2015 1:37:34 GMT
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Post by _ on Feb 13, 2015 1:40:26 GMT
hmm weird, I'm just saying from what happened with mine, if this is what jp wiki says ill take your word for it mate but i couldn't access mine till after the fact. ohwell in the end i has it |
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Post by Jeancarlo on Feb 14, 2015 15:22:19 GMT
Confirming that Apostola available after Irai, after talking to npc in town. Got Blue Int xta from Irai lotto and slotted it lol
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Post by MiLiGRiTo on Feb 16, 2015 7:11:19 GMT
We get extra Al Chrysta page after 500times ignite per JP wiki. Is this information correct?
I am halfway at the moment at 260+times and am wondering since I might want to ignite more frequently just to get the extra page.
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