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Post by eva on Oct 9, 2022 21:51:23 GMT
Heyo, hope you all are doing fine.
I've been thinking on trying it for a while, why not creating a claw BK disable set ?
Claw BK has high tanking potential, so maybe a disable set could be possible. Do you guys have any idea or suggestions on gears, xtals, als and stats ? I'd like to hear it.
Currently going with the following gear :
Judgement III
Dragon Mail
Ensis Shield
Still no spec qwq
All of them 1s.
It's all still just a blueprint, I'm open to critics and suggestions
Hope y'all a nice day !
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Post by godofafro on Oct 10, 2022 5:32:56 GMT
Heyo, hope you all are doing fine. I've been thinking on trying it for a while, why not creating a claw BK disable set ? Claw BK has high tanking potential, so maybe a disable set could be possible. Do you guys have any idea or suggestions on gears, xtals, als and stats ? I'd like to hear it. Currently going with the following gear : Judgement III Dragon Mail Ensis Shield Still no spec qwq All of them 1s. It's all still just a blueprint, I'm open to critics and suggestions Hope y'all a nice day ! Hi eva, some thoughts below: 1. why go for claw build, rather than sword build? 2. what's your total autoskill %? 50%-ish should be enough for 90%++ negate proc using 3 disable eq 3. your spec choice would either be myrica/nom or ssf/nom defensive wise
4. a big weakness in disable sets would be to counter big rate cut damage. might want to consider plugging that in
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Post by eva on Oct 10, 2022 14:25:51 GMT
Heyo, hope you all are doing fine. I've been thinking on trying it for a while, why not creating a claw BK disable set ? Claw BK has high tanking potential, so maybe a disable set could be possible. Do you guys have any idea or suggestions on gears, xtals, als and stats ? I'd like to hear it. Currently going with the following gear : Judgement III Dragon Mail Ensis Shield Still no spec qwq All of them 1s. It's all still just a blueprint, I'm open to critics and suggestions Hope y'all a nice day ! Hi eva, some thoughts below: 1. why go for claw build, rather than sword build? 2. what's your total autoskill %? 50%-ish should be enough for 90%++ negate proc using 3 disable eq 3. your spec choice would either be myrica/nom or ssf/nom defensive wise
4. a big weakness in disable sets would be to counter big rate cut damage. might want to consider plugging that in
Heyo 1. I'm going for claw build for simple reasons : It's fun to use. Like i said, it has good tanking potential since it can abuse from agi (Even tho evasion isn't reliable). I main claw BK, not great fan of sword build. And why not trying something different, right ? XD. 2. I still didn't create the char yet, it's still just a sketch =D. But with the equips i have rn, the autoskill total is 13%, I'm sure going to work on that XD. 3. About the spec, the only one i know is Myrica, wich it isn't going to make much difference since it's meant to be used with swords. Idk about the other two, what are their names ? I'm still kinda new to the game, so i don't know the name of all items yet. 4. I guess Iniliba can solve that a little bit. What do you think ? |
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Post by Owe on Oct 10, 2022 15:58:33 GMT
Hello, it’s always a pleasure to meet another evasion enthusiast  While you’re still planning, one thing you’ll have to decide is if you’re going more autoattack or skill spam. The stat spread is very tight on a claw character as you need AGI and STR for the base which presents a couple of unique problems. Skill spam has the benefit of not needing CRT and only a basic level of DEX to spam Fear Howl/Tryant Edge (tyrant edge never crits so you can maintain damage without the stat). This allows for a higher investment into VIT which is highly beneficial for disable. On the other hand Tyrant Edge has a recoil effect so finding a way to maintain your hp effectively is crucial. I’d have to look through the posts on the board, but there IS a skill delay requirement for spamming Tyrant Edge even with Dex so keep that in mind. For auto the stat spread is much tighter as you need a maxed CRT. This opens access to more of the skill tree, at the cost of a lower VIT cap and not being able to spam the skills you now have access to. Luckily one of those skills are Bite which has synergy with autoskill, so you’ll have a built in way of maintaining your HP if you can squeeze in enough damage. If you can stomach it, Rudolf is a pretty good xtal for disable and bk (range from what I’ve seen extends the range of Fear Howl, highly beneficial when tanking) |
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Post by eva on Oct 10, 2022 18:39:58 GMT
Hello, it’s always a pleasure to meet another evasion enthusiast While you’re still planning, one thing you’ll have to decide is if you’re going more autoattack or skill spam. The stat spread is very tight on a claw character as you need AGI and STR for the base which presents a couple of unique problems. Skill spam has the benefit of not needing CRT and only a basic level of DEX to spam Fear Howl/Tryant Edge (tyrant edge never crits so you can maintain damage without the stat). This allows for a higher investment into VIT which is highly beneficial for disable. On the other hand Tyrant Edge has a recoil effect so finding a way to maintain your hp effectively is crucial. I’d have to look through the posts on the board, but there IS a skill delay requirement for spamming Tyrant Edge even with Dex so keep that in mind. For auto the stat spread is much tighter as you need a maxed CRT. This opens access to more of the skill tree, at the cost of a lower VIT cap and not being able to spam the skills you now have access to. Luckily one of those skills are Bite which has synergy with autoskill, so you’ll have a built in way of maintaining your HP if you can squeeze in enough damage. If you can stomach it, Rudolf is a pretty good xtal for disable and bk (range from what I’ve seen extends the range of Fear Howl, highly beneficial when tanking) Hmm, I'm probably going with CRT build, it's more appealing to me, although T.Edge spam build seems cool too. I'll take some time to think and reflect on wich one i will choose, there's still time until i put this project ahead. Also, yeah, i know from first hand how CRT can make the stat spread tight, my claw dps BK has shown to me that XD. It's my precious problematic baby, it's nothing too original, but i took time into brainstorming and working on it  . Range does affect ambient aoe skills, having it for Fear Howl will be great, specially for a tank ! Thank you for the suggestions ! |
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Post by Owe on Oct 10, 2022 20:21:28 GMT
Hmm, I'm probably going with CRT build, it's more appealing to me, although T.Edge spam build seems cool too. I'll take some time to think and reflect on wich one i will choose, there's still time until i put this project ahead. Also, yeah, i know from first hand how CRT can make the stat spread tight, my claw dps BK has shown to me that XD. It's my precious problematic baby, it's nothing too original, but i took time into brainstorming and working on it . Range does affect ambient aoe skills, having it for Fear Howl will be great, specially for a tank ! Thank you for the suggestions ! Ahh so you’re thinking of going more CRT based. In that case, you might want to take a look around the monk boards/videos for some gear ideas! A lot of their stuff transfers over very nicely. I’m excited to see what you come up with! Good luck and happy testing |
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Post by °Malice° on Oct 11, 2022 12:24:55 GMT
Uh some of my idea:
1. Bk passive Alleviation gives like +40~% absolute and magic evasion.
2. Acrobat ring gives +30% absolute and magic evasion but reduce your melee and magic res by 40%. Ez +70~% absolute and magic eva.
3. Most claw have minus on magic res, usually around -20% magic res. Paired with acrobat ring you got ez -60% magic res.
4. But still, you have passive called Magic Parry. Seems like it activate by chance when you take magic dmg, reduce the dmg taken by 80%. 5 second cooldown after activation. You need autoskill% for this to work frequently.
5. Having 95 equip DEF might help you alot to counter the -40% melee res from acrobat ring. Oh almost forgot, BK have Warcry skill which gives +melee res%. I forgot how much the value is given.
6. So uh, you gotta find another 20+~ absolute/magic eva gears/stat to make your evasion work properly.
7. But, as a tank class you need rate cut stats too.
8. Cuz you going to add autoskill% in your build, having equips which negates dmg such as dmail or iniliba or guevol is not bad idea either. Im sure Bk Magic Parry still proc even if you wear dmail/iniliba/guevol.
9. If you wanna get more autoskill other from equips, u gonna need Ench Draw buff, and fortune pill, which gives +5% autoskill.
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°Malice°
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Post by °Malice° on Oct 12, 2022 11:32:13 GMT
Uh some of my idea: 1. Bk passive Alleviation gives like +40~% absolute and magic evasion. 2. Acrobat ring gives +30% absolute and magic evasion but reduce your melee and magic res by 40%. Ez +70~% absolute and magic eva. 3. Most claw have minus on magic res, usually around -20% magic res. Paired with acrobat ring you got ez -60% magic res. 4. But still, you have passive called Magic Parry. Seems like it activate by chance when you take magic dmg, reduce the dmg taken by 80%. 5 second cooldown after activation. You need autoskill% for this to work frequently. 5. Having 95 equip DEF might help you alot to counter the -40% melee res from acrobat ring. Oh almost forgot, BK have Warcry skill which gives +melee res%. I forgot how much the value is given. 6. So uh, you gotta find another 20+~ absolute/magic eva gears/stat to make your evasion work properly. 7. But, as a tank class you need rate cut stats too. 8. Cuz you going to add autoskill% in your build, having equips which negates dmg such as dmail or iniliba or guevol is not bad idea either. Im sure Bk Magic Parry still proc even if you wear dmail/iniliba/guevol. 9. If you wanna get more autoskill other from equips, u gonna need Ench Draw buff, and fortune pill, which gives +5% autoskill. just realized this thread is for um, disable but my idea is more towards evasion, so uhh *flees* |
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Post by eva on Oct 12, 2022 12:38:08 GMT
Uh some of my idea: 1. Bk passive Alleviation gives like +40~% absolute and magic evasion. 2. Acrobat ring gives +30% absolute and magic evasion but reduce your melee and magic res by 40%. Ez +70~% absolute and magic eva. 3. Most claw have minus on magic res, usually around -20% magic res. Paired with acrobat ring you got ez -60% magic res. 4. But still, you have passive called Magic Parry. Seems like it activate by chance when you take magic dmg, reduce the dmg taken by 80%. 5 second cooldown after activation. You need autoskill% for this to work frequently. 5. Having 95 equip DEF might help you alot to counter the -40% melee res from acrobat ring. Oh almost forgot, BK have Warcry skill which gives +melee res%. I forgot how much the value is given. 6. So uh, you gotta find another 20+~ absolute/magic eva gears/stat to make your evasion work properly. 7. But, as a tank class you need rate cut stats too. 8. Cuz you going to add autoskill% in your build, having equips which negates dmg such as dmail or iniliba or guevol is not bad idea either. Im sure Bk Magic Parry still proc even if you wear dmail/iniliba/guevol. 9. If you wanna get more autoskill other from equips, u gonna need Ench Draw buff, and fortune pill, which gives +5% autoskill. just realized this thread is for um, disable but my idea is more towards evasion, so uhh *flees* Nah, it's completely fine. Actually i got an mad idea because of your idea fufufu ÒwÓ. |
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Post by eva on Oct 12, 2022 13:45:39 GMT
Okay, so i arrived into a set, probably won't work ewe, it's an crazy idea i had, so the chances of not working is high, but anyway.
Equipment :
•Judgement III ◇Frederico ☆Rate Cut
•Dragon Mail lu ◇Bodyguard Cordal ☆Autoskill
•Ensis Shield lu ◇Rudolf ☆Rate Cut
•Acrobat Ring ◇Jahoel ☆Rate Cut
Al Crystas :
•Jahoel
•Cordal
•Cordal II
•Cerbera
•Leviam
All green
Stats :
AGI=CRT>STR?>GR? rest VIT
(Question mark means that I'm not really sure)
So, um this looks kinda nonsense, and yeah i agree, but, idk why but i think it's possible blending evasion with disable, for now these are the gears, abilities, xtals and stats i think it could help making it possible. With all these it's possible reaching the following stats :
54% Autoskill
81% Absolute Evasion ?
86% Magic Evasion ?
Counting the Rate Cut abilities that i pretend getting them to lvl 5, we get an total of 60% Rate Cut.
I know, it's crazy, but, who knows, right ? Maybe it can work. Anyway, any suggestions, criticism or corrections are welcome ^w^
Huge thanks to °Malice° for giving me the inspiration to think on this crazy Frankenstein XD and also Owe, since i wouldn't main and love claw BK if it wasn't for him, but enough with being a pushover, hope y'all a nive day !!
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