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Post by innepalta on Feb 6, 2022 11:03:17 GMT
Hi Hi
I wanted to ask what I can improve to have more damage
My Build is:
Special Claw
Stats Level 304
-str 350
-vit 343
-crt 331
Apostolia:
-Sauro III Green
-Ouvel Red
-Enina Red
-Starmuncher Red
-Sauro II Green
Equip:
-Mephisto Claw+9 Sauro II
-Soul Fist II-9 Sauro II
-Jade Ricus+9 Veltria
-Boo+9 Aldi
-Boo+9 Iniliba
-Barbarotita+9 Nigdu+Union Sam
-Sieger Plate Iniliba
-Ror Union Sam+Union Sam
-Nom Iniliba
for now, my max dmg with dragonewt is 450k
what should i change?
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Post by grind on Mar 2, 2023 14:45:34 GMT
I suggest reading the fine details in the pinned guides for mins. The info is slightly out dated but it does list formulas and stat suggestions that are mostly accurate. You need Dex if you're trying to Spam Newt, and as much Additional Critical Damage that you can get. Not Crit its self, but Max Crit Damage as Dragnewt song is actually a physical attack.
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Post by Yaozou★ on Mar 3, 2023 8:59:07 GMT
I suggest reading the fine details in the pinned guides for mins. The info is slightly out dated but it does list formulas and stat suggestions that are mostly accurate. You need Dex if you're trying to Spam Newt, and as much Additional Critical Damage that you can get. Not Crit its self, but Max Crit Damage as Dragnewt song is actually a physical attack. No he doesn't need any dex with this build, Usam, boo and barbarotita give him already enough SD to spam all skills and on top of that he has Sauro 2/3 in apo, its safe to say he does NOT need any dex for SD
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Post by grind on Mar 6, 2023 12:08:32 GMT
I suggest reading the fine details in the pinned guides for mins. The info is slightly out dated but it does list formulas and stat suggestions that are mostly accurate. You need Dex if you're trying to Spam Newt, and as much Additional Critical Damage that you can get. Not Crit its self, but Max Crit Damage as Dragnewt song is actually a physical attack. No he doesn't need any dex with this build, Usam, boo and barbarotita give him already enough SD to spam all skills and on top of that he has Sauro 2/3 in apo, its safe to say he does NOT need any dex for SD If you focus -SD gears as a Mins you're going to lack in newt damage no matter what you do. In my opinion, OP if you want more dragnewt damage, change your stats for less VIT, more Dex more Crit and as much +Critical Damage% gear, AL and Xtals, as you can get as your Dragnewt damage is actually a Physical Attack of neutral damage. Don't fall into the -SD equip trap. -SD equips are NOT for mins, aside from very specific fights. CRT and STR should be your main stat, your VIT doesn't need to be much as you're not trying to have agro and tank if you're tying to cycle newt for damage, so rather than so much VIT, try taking about 100 points of it towards Dex, this will allow you to make different equipment choices. Also, most professional players have multiple (3) sets of equips on their character and use 'Phrases" for quick set changes to achieve the results they want, or to survive specific situations, this is in turn why you wont need 'so much' VIT as you can swap equips for survival when you need to. But unless you're also building Avoid/Agi Mins for newt spam with throw weapons then you will need SOME Vit in order to not become defeated with ease.
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Post by Yaozou★ on Mar 6, 2023 16:35:04 GMT
No he doesn't need any dex with this build, Usam, boo and barbarotita give him already enough SD to spam all skills and on top of that he has Sauro 2/3 in apo, its safe to say he does NOT need any dex for SD If you focus -SD gears as a Mins you're going to lack in newt damage no matter what you do. In my opinion, OP if you want more dragnewt damage, change your stats for less VIT, more Dex more Crit and as much +Critical Damage% gear, AL and Xtals, as you can get as your Dragnewt damage is actually a Physical Attack of neutral damage. Don't fall into the -SD equip trap. -SD equips are NOT for mins, aside from very specific fights. CRT and STR should be your main stat, your VIT doesn't need to be much as you're not trying to have agro and tank if you're tying to cycle newt for damage, so rather than so much VIT, try taking about 100 points of it towards Dex, this will allow you to make different equipment choices. Also, most professional players have multiple (3) sets of equips on their character and use 'Phrases" for quick set changes to achieve the results they want, or to survive specific situations, this is in turn why you wont need 'so much' VIT as you can swap equips for survival when you need to. But unless you're also building Avoid/Agi Mins for newt spam with throw weapons then you will need SOME Vit in order to not become defeated with ease. Im sorry but could you provide the sources for your claims that Newts damage needs more Dex sd im wondering whats coming from. My build iscurrently: 370 Str 150 Vit 373 Crt Sirius EdgeII Sauro2/Sauro2 Boo Aldi Barbarotita Nigdu/Usam Wild Ring Usam/Usam Im Lv 266 and already hitting 1m Newt on Luna and Around 830k - 870k on MG I mean Dex is definetely an option for sure but then OP should switch off Spec Claw and use a Bow, Sword or Throw instead to actually utilize more from that stat. And since the changes to the Crit damage Formula that happened like ages ago, i wouldnt recommend many CrtDmg Sources like Xtals or Equip, maxing CRT + one extra CrtDmg Source + CRT5 Abi should completely suffice in the crits deparment. Also OP, how come your Dragonewt Damage is that low? Are you executing it properly? Wisdom Song should always be your last Buff song as it doubles the Damage of your next song, in which case thats Dragonewt. That should make your Newts damage definetely 900k instead of 450k
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Post by grind on Mar 6, 2023 19:09:47 GMT
I feel that I don't need to repeat myself, re read my statements if you're confused about why someone needs dex to spam if they arent using SD equips.
"Im Lv 266 and already hitting 1m Newt on Luna and Around 830k - 870k on MG" How about we not pick a mob that isnt weak to neutral damage?
High newt damage is obtainable with dex and no SD gears. I've played Mins from day 1 and am EN server 1st mins. I've respec my mins two dozen times and tried most all possible stat builds with majority of available items.
I'm letting OP know that they have MANY MANY MANY options, and how to go about exploring them. I'm not going to hold their hand and play the game for them, nor will I hold your hand here on these forums Yaozou to bring you all the details from the corners of this forum of the past 10 years.
OP, Don't be a Cookie Cutter Mins like Yaozou, find your own way. This game isn't about watching a YT video and building the same character that 90% of the others do.
I'm not here to argue with you Yaozou, don't reply to me here.
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Post by Rocketpower on Mar 7, 2023 3:08:30 GMT
Just change Mephisto with Sirius edge II+9 Sauro II
(Sirius edge has the highest attack gain possible in the entire equipment)
Change Armor to Wandering cloths (At lv430 with apos cap str 450+) you will get total of "150% crt DMG" from this Armor alone. Wandering cloths can go toe to toe with "2slot" Boo as 1s
Additional is fine but getting elemental is better.
Wild ring/ror is fine. But I won't suggest Ror much bcuz it has -100dex and very op negatives like accuracy-70% and minstrel skills/attacks has high chance to do clean hit even without Dex so I recommend not to use ror
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