Any circumstances autoclicking can be deemed acceptable?

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Any circumstances autoclicking can be deemed acceptable? Jan 15, 2022 5:32:38 GMT

Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 5:32:38 GMT

So uh I'm gonna prepare myself to get some bashing cause I know this is something that is largely hated by most players and I can understand why. Was considering creating a rando account to post this on but I don't wanna be a coward so I'm posting this here.

Long story short, I'm thinking of botting. I won't be proud to say I do. I love this game and I want to actually work for the things I get. But I have a reason why I'm thinking of using an autoclicker.
For some reason, my fingers get hurt really easily. Even playing for 30 minutes a day, doesn't matter what I'm doing (walking around/tapping a button etc.), my thumbs will get sore. This doesn't happen only for gaming. I do judo, where you have to grip your partner/opponent's uniform really tight. All of my finger joints will hurt even after just one training session. I've asked around but I don't think anyone else gets this. The only time I can get temporary relief is when I crack my fingers. The soreness will only go away after like 2 weeks of not gaming/judo.
The only way that I can think of continuing to play games without risking some permanent injury to my thumbs would be to bot. (I've seen people with arthritis and I also know that this kind of finger injuries can actually lead to some serious long-term issues)
Admittedly, I do bot occasionally but I don't go full afk. If someone talks to me/mails me/pt invites me, I'll see it. If my buffs end, I'll see it. If I'm dying, I'll stop autoattacking and use a skill to kill the mob faster. I'll always sit there with my phone in front of me even when I multitask. I only bot sometimes if I'm farming mobs or grinding. But I feel so guilty doing it knowing that "real" honest players won't do this. Also I don't wanna risk getting some penalty from Asobimo because of botting (am I putting myself at risk openly posting this? o.o)

So basically my question is, would y'all condemn all botters regardless of the reason? Are there any instances that y'all can accept the use of autoclickers such as due to real physical conditions affecting them? If it's always considered unacceptable, I'll stop.
I don't wanna feel guilty doing the things I do when I play this game, that's why I'm posting this.

Last Edit: Jan 15, 2022 10:52:44 GMT by Deleted

IrunaNerd Member	Any circumstances autoclicking can be deemed acceptable? Jan 15, 2022 7:37:30 GMT via mobile Owe likes this Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by IrunaNerd on Jan 15, 2022 7:37:30 GMT Well mmo nowdays have their own "built in" bot system, like ragnarok x etc. Maybe asobimo will make their own mmo built in bot in future🤔

Random.Num.Generator Member	Any circumstances autoclicking can be deemed acceptable? Jan 15, 2022 9:43:17 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Random.Num.Generator on Jan 15, 2022 9:43:17 GMT To be fair, a lot of big name mmo games promote botting. They just pretty it up by calling it "Idle" or using [Auto] features.

whatisanameeven?
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Any circumstances autoclicking can be deemed acceptable? Jan 15, 2022 10:32:52 GMT

Post by whatisanameeven? on Jan 15, 2022 10:32:52 GMT

OP might already know my thoughts on this but i'll just put it up here anyway. botting by using autoclickers while actually sitting in front of your device doesn't harm anyone unless you're talking about someone messing up market prices or whatever, which i know isn't the case here. and it isn't cheating since the only difference is whether you're using your thumbs or using mainly your eyes; you're still putting in the effort of sitting there and playing. anyway, people can't tell you what you should or shouldn't do, it's concerning the health of your fingers here if this is a sign of arthritis. a game is made for people to have fun and if this is the only way for you to have fun while taking care of your long-run health, i don't see why not. the only issue here is not getting yourself a penalty over this.

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Any circumstances autoclicking can be deemed acceptable? Jan 15, 2022 13:18:12 GMT via mobile Random.Num.Generator likes this

Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jan 15, 2022 13:18:12 GMT

I TBH don't find it harmful if you use it for leveling or for farming items for your own and upgrades.

But, if you use Bot for farming, lets say ◇Sauro II or ◇Iniliba, there is the problem, since these 2 xtals are still being used a lot as a coin.

Overflooding the transit of these ones ruin our economy, just like it has be done before.

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Any circumstances autoclicking can be deemed acceptable? Jan 15, 2022 13:21:40 GMT via mobile Random.Num.Generator and Pixie like this

Post by Nobody (Retired for now) on Jan 15, 2022 13:21:40 GMT

Also, I play Skullgirls Mobile.

There we have an autoplay feature.
I use it a lot for doing daily events for grinding for IG money.
It sucks, because you still need to check the game, because the AI has everything except Intelligence.

Why?:
Because I have to do chores, workout and other activities.
So, I can't afford myself to play for 3 hours doing dailies.

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Any circumstances autoclicking can be deemed acceptable? Jan 15, 2022 14:33:21 GMT via mobile

Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 14:33:21 GMT

Jan 15, 2022 13:18:12 GMT Nobody (Retired for now) said:

I TBH don't find it harmful if you use it for leveling or for farming items for your own and upgrades.

But, if you use Bot for farming, lets say ◇Sauro II or ◇Iniliba, there is the problem, since these 2 xtals are still being used a lot as a coin.

Overflooding the transit of these ones ruin our economy, just like it has be done before.

I've never used bot to farm such expensive things. I neither understand nor do I want understand how to set up the autoclicker to include walking, which boss fights require. I also have no intention of wanting to mess up the economy by cheating. I believe valuable items shouldn't be farmed when afk. When I do bot, I just set up the autoclicker to click on Attack when grinding or farming things like hematite for my own use.

On a side note, I'm kinda surprised that the replies so far have been pretty accepting of my use of autoclicker. I guess it's due to the fact that a lot of games now have auto features where you can afk a lot. I've played a game like that before. (Dragon Raja) (which I played for a few months during my hiatus from Iruna and which I then quit to return back to Iruna)

Last Edit: Jan 15, 2022 14:40:05 GMT by Deleted

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Any circumstances autoclicking can be deemed acceptable? Jan 16, 2022 5:08:36 GMT via mobile ℓσηєωσℓƒ, Random.Num.Generator, and 4 more like this

Post by Undyne on Jan 16, 2022 5:08:36 GMT

As a forum mod/veteran player, No.

As someone who realized how horrible this game is and how unfair/unrealistic the grind is long ago, I can understand it. I however will not participate as its a high level ToS violation.

Locking the thread/removing related posts as discussion of third party automation applications is specifically against ToS.

Last Edit: Jan 16, 2022 5:11:43 GMT by Undyne

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