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Post by grind on Aug 31, 2021 14:00:39 GMT
Will someone please share with me how Agi-Tank-BK works? Mainly what stats. My main goal is survivability and secondary is damage.
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オーゼン
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I have tried all job, do research all over, resetting char over 99x, and i know i need more luck.
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Post by オーゼン on Aug 31, 2021 18:52:38 GMT
Tank stat?
Vit=Agi=Str=Crt (claw endgame build)
Survival?
BK passive and skill got so much resist.
Disable set is for better survival.
Judgement III (only claw for disable set)
Dragon Mail reup (u know already)
Luna epaulette (...)
SBS with ◇ douin and iniliba
☆abi with hate
and ai, crysta hate set mix with resist (pure tank? for party? hate is must).
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Post by Owe on Aug 31, 2021 19:43:06 GMT
I’ve found that using your defense for offense and vice versa is the best way to go.
Claws get atk from AGI so you can almost immediately start building up both ways just by playing.
In terms of gear, auto % is usually the best way to go for dmg and survive
If you use a gear like dmail or judgement the auto% basically adds an extra layer of protection based on that % because bk has high natural hp and we heal naturally through double attacking. Basically at 50% auto you can expect to disable 50% of attacks thrown at you.
The second part of auto % is that it affects your double attack/bite rate. Double attack/bite 1.5x your normal attack dmg so it’s a great way to improve your damage. Also you heal every time you bite so auto% overall is just crazy for us.
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Post by Aza on Dec 26, 2021 10:56:02 GMT
Eva tank BK is cool. I just remade mine to AGI build. It's unfinished but I can already solo and tank some ep.6 boss and current xmas boss at lvl 360. I can use Ira and Wild Ring and still tanking. Altho, the damage will never be higher than sword/DEX build.
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°Malice°
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Post by °Malice° on Dec 26, 2021 11:29:14 GMT
If u wanna be a cool swish swoosh clank bk, max sr arm and add, go with agi main stat, get damage cut auto (25/50%) and get high autoskill and some evasion stat. For apos, purple (auto%), green (eva) or yellow (atk) is ur choice.
In case if u fail to evade normally, u will depend on dmg cut auto then lastly ur equip def will reduce the dmg taken further. Adding high auto is good idea cuz bk naturally have guard, good melee res. With high auto bk probably can handle some high magic dmg and reduced it by dmg cut auto or magic parry.
Being evasive tank is quite risky cuz u depend more on manipulative chance than a fixed chance. If go with sword u can go to high res which is always reduce the dmg taken.
And u still gotta make a room for rate cut, just in case if the monster have rate dmg. Could be it from abi or equips, its your choice.
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Post by Aza on Dec 26, 2021 14:51:18 GMT
If u wanna be a cool swish swoosh clank bk, max sr arm and add, go with agi main stat, get damage cut auto (25/50%) and get high autoskill and some evasion stat. For apos, purple (auto%), green (eva) or yellow (atk) is ur choice. In case if u fail to evade normally, u will depend on dmg cut auto then lastly ur equip def will reduce the dmg taken further. Adding high auto is good idea cuz bk naturally have guard, good melee res. With high auto bk probably can handle some high magic dmg and reduced it by dmg cut auto or magic parry. Being evasive tank is quite risky cuz u depend more on manipulative chance than a fixed chance. If go with sword u can go to high res which is always reduce the dmg taken. And u still gotta make a room for rate cut, just in case if the monster have rate dmg. Could be it from abi or equips, its your choice. Resist isn't always good. Many high lvl boss can ignore resist and equip def and fast boss can slowly kill especially if the BK don't have enough time to use pots. Also HP wipe boss is resist ultimate nemesis. Resist is risky too if you have half. Iniliba/Dmg cut auto is the one that makes resist strong. But if you wear full resist damage is garbage. Evasion isn't that risky if you have cap. When that 5-20% kicks, there's clone. When clone is breached you can re-clone or use disable. Cap evasion prevents consecutive hits so we're safe to re-clone. Only need a right amount of either agi or eva idk to unlock that cap. PF use clone + eva and they are fine. They even have lower evasion, lower HP than BK and they always turn clones on/off, but they are super fine, can solo things easy. We can just mimic what they do :v so credits to the first guy that figured this. I believe dev doesn't design the game for only super intelligent people, it has to have some sort of intuitive things for player to figure out. But on Japanese standard :v |
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Post by Owe on Dec 26, 2021 15:33:05 GMT
Honestly I think that if you’re trying to build a tank, the claw build is far superior to a sword build. They can simply exploit the skill set better than the sword build like Aza said. One thing I want to add too is that fear is another massive defense buff with the claw build. Essentially fear makes your eva stat super effective, and because the claw build obviously uses agi, that’s another solid level of defense.
That means in terms of defense the claw build has:
Clone (super effective because of evasion)
Absolute/Magic eva
Eva Stat (super effective when enemy is feared)
Disable auto (more effective than sword build for same reason as clone)
Melee/magic res & magic parry (magic parry’s effectiveness is better because not all magic attacks hit you so you don’t have to worry about the cooldown as much)
Equip Def
Vs sword build which has:
Clone (less effective than claw’s)
Melee/magic res & magic parry (sword has higher melee and magic res than claw, magic parry is less effective than claw for the reason above)
Equip Def
Now obviously the sword build resists more when they do take damage… but how often does the claw build actually take damage is the question 😂
Spoiler, not that often
P.S. I know that the sword build COULD use disable, but most don’t. Most go with a “skill spam” build and don’t build for auto, that said, I still think claw has the edge because the claw build is getting hit at least half the amount of times the sword build is.
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Post by Undyne on Dec 26, 2021 16:47:09 GMT
You don't even particularly need to build to abuse claw build, agi really isn't necessary given how the only attacks it negates are also reduced by Equip Def/Melee Res.
Just cap Magic/Abs Eva to negate the actual strong attacks from just about every boss and rely on SR+Fear on normal attacks.
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